Yondome wa Iyana Shizokusei Majutsushi - Vol. 14 Ch. 65 - The Ultimate Metal

[eco666]

70% of these heinz hate comments have to be rage bait. Cause no way y'all are for real.

 

[theblasblas]

Hmmm, I thought the tree lady would be sexier...

Spoiler

but I guess that comes later...

Page 27 Eleonora and Darcia's speech bubbles are switched.

 

[theblasblas]

So basically the same as the MC ?

Someone gets it. Heinz and Van are both doing what they think is best for their people while trying to minimize damage as much as possible. It's really just that Van has bullshit MC powers that let him sidestep all the moral quandaries of having a society that accepts undead and monsters.

"I am the HERO!"
"who murdered an innocent woman."
"I feeeeel veeeeery bad about it."
"not enough since you still are everyone's errand boy."

By "errand boy" you mean "someone who protects the lives of innocents by slaying actually evil monsters"? What do you expect him to do, overthrow the monarchy? He can't just brainwash and bring back all the civil officials needed to run a country like Van can.

He can't rule a country and go around fixing problems and defeating monsters because he can't teleport and make duplicates of himself like Van can.

Heinz is basically a more realistic version of a hero who understands the limitations of what he can do and focuses on the world ending threats.

Also, Heinz didn't murder Darcia. He captured her because she was a wanted criminal. Did she deserve to get executed? Of course not, but the fact remains that she was harboring an evil vampire. This is like if a police officer arrested someone who was harboring a known terrorist, took her to jail, but then some higher ranking official just killed her without trial. Would you say that the police officer "murdered an innocent woman" in that scenario?

from his classmates to the hero party, they perceive themselves as justice incarnate and wont care about any misdeed they commit on their victims as long as these are marked as evil and the consequences arent world ending threats.
suffering and misery caused by their actions is probably something "they arent responsible, because its in the past".
hypocrisy bombs incoming from heinz ketchup, bet on that.

When has Heinz ever committed misdeeds besides the time he captured Darcia? And even that was because he was tricked by the officials of his country saying she was more of a threat than she actually was, and he had no reason to doubt the officials back then. It's more of a "mistake" than a "misdeed".

Eleanora has caused far more pain and suffering than Heinz ever has, and I don't see any of you busting Van's chops for taking her in. This is also true for all the other vampires he's taken in thus far, especially Isla who was Ternecia's Hound.

 

[theblasblas]

so, is van getting freed of his curse? will the god correct his fault?
will the one who took all the fortune for 2 people at once give part of the gods blessings to van?
they surely didnt try to do anything compensating their misdeeds after they robbed him, mistake or not.
and van wasnt exactly a raging zombie when they murdered him, he was precisely going after his jailers and freeing the victims of the "bravers".

99.999999999999999999999% of undead are evil monsters whose sole purpose is to slaughter everything that lives, what reason do they have to believe that the undead rampaging in the research facility is an exception?

What exactly do you expect them to do to "compensate"? First, they DON'T know that extra blessing was given to the one guy, everyone got different numbers of blessings, they don't have a reason to believe it's not just "fate" that he got a few more than the others. Second, Van is dead, they have no way of contacting the dead, Rodcorte doesn't even communicate with them for the most part. Third, they DO try to help the other experimental subjects.

Rodcorte though, is a piece of shit and deserves to have his soul shattered. He's the actual one who's at fault for all of this.

yeah the utterly self-indulging, undeniably greedy and arrogant ones.
theyre vans killers and the bane of the other human experiments from the same ward back in the world from before, yet theyre mostly indifferent to the suffering they cause.
and i am still getting hung up on that identity theft stuff...

Also the irony of this statement is just. Wow.

Considering

Spoiler

Van takes in one of the most utterly self-indulging and greedy of the former Bravers who was using the experimental subjects as sacrificial pawns for her own ends... because she promised to be good and not do that anymore now that she's reincarnated and I guess Van needs someone to lead his ever growing band of magical idol girls.

 

[Iskarioth]

Someone gets it. Heinz and Van are both doing what they think is best for their people while trying to minimize damage as much as possible. It's really just that Van has bullshit MC powers that let him sidestep all the moral quandaries of having a society that accepts undead and monsters.


By "errand boy" you mean "someone who protects the lives of innocents by slaying actually evil monsters"? What do you expect him to do, overthrow the monarchy? He can't just brainwash and bring back all the civil officials needed to run a country like Van can.

He can't rule a country and go around fixing problems and defeating monsters because he can't teleport and make duplicates of himself like Van can.

Heinz is basically a more realistic version of a hero who understands the limitations of what he can do and focuses on the world ending threats.

Also, Heinz didn't murder Darcia. He captured her because she was a wanted criminal. Did she deserve to get executed? Of course not, but the fact remains that she was harboring an evil vampire. This is like if a police officer arrested someone who was harboring a known terrorist, took her to jail, but then some higher ranking official just killed her without trial. Would you say that the police officer "murdered an innocent woman" in that scenario?



When has Heinz ever committed misdeeds besides the time he captured Darcia? And even that was because he was tricked by the officials of his country saying she was more of a threat than she actually was, and he had no reason to doubt the officials back then. It's more of a "mistake" than a "misdeed".

Eleanora has caused far more pain and suffering than Heinz ever has, and I don't see any of you busting Van's chops for taking her in. This is also true for all the other vampires he's taken in thus far, especially Isla who was Ternecia's Hound.

Most fanboys of edgelord mangas are as shallow as a puddle. The really appeal to the worst characters the most

 

[knight_evangel]

Water (35 L), carbon (20 kg), ammonia (4 L), lime (1.5 kg), phosphorus (800 g), salt (250 g), saltpeter (100 g), sulfur (80 g), fluorine (7.5 g), iron (5 g), silicon (3 g) and trace amounts of fifteen other elements.

 

[Oakheir]

Water (35 L), carbon (20 kg), ammonia (4 L), lime (1.5 kg), phosphorus (800 g), salt (250 g), saltpeter (100 g), sulfur (80 g), fluorine (7.5 g), iron (5 g), silicon (3 g) and trace amounts of fifteen other elements.

I get that reference.

He is getting older. He's not undead himself lol.
Iirc he should be 7 or 8 atm. The orc girl being taller than him is surprising though.

They have noted that Van is growing abnormally slow, even for a dhamphir.

Pg 28 did I read right? Did the author give a character a digimon name? Gubamon? Wth lol

Close enough. It follows the Digimon naming conventions, so much so that I would be surprised to find that it is the name of a Digimon.

 

[Reina4444]

When has Heinz ever committed misdeeds besides the time he captured Darcia? And even that was because he was tricked by the officials of his country saying she was more of a threat than she actually was, and he had no reason to doubt the officials back then. It's more of a "mistake" than a "misdeed".

Eleanora has caused far more pain and suffering than Heinz ever has, and I don't see any of you busting Van's chops for taking her in. This is also true for all the other vampires he's taken in thus far, especially Isla who was Ternecia's Hound.

Spoiler

heinz party is at least responsible for multiple acts of genocide against the ghouls and scyllas. they go along with the demands of their religion and will exterminate sentient members of a specific species without any restraint. they are on a race war. the female vampire they adopted is just a token. they murdered countless beings equivalent of her.

 

[Ideon]

Considering

Spoiler

Van takes in one of the most utterly self-indulging and greedy of the former Bravers who was using the experimental subjects as sacrificial pawns for her own ends... because she promised to be good and not do that anymore now that she's reincarnated and I guess Van needs someone to lead his ever growing band of magical idol girls.

Damn, didn't know they let Asagi post on this forum.

 

[theblasblas]

Spoiler

heinz party is at least responsible for multiple acts of genocide against the ghouls and scyllas. they go along with the demands of their religion and will exterminate sentient members of a specific species without any restraint. they are on a race war. the female vampire they adopted is just a token. they murdered countless beings equivalent of her.

Spoiler: I don't think any of this is spoilers, but spoilering just in case.

If you're going to say that then the same is true for those ghouls and scylla. Most of the members of those races outside of the Vida Mountain range and that one Scylla territory frequently raid human villages and kill anyone who gets in their way. They also kidnap men and women to reproduce. Even Zadiris' ghoul tribe did that.

As you said, it's a "race war". The ghouls and scylla are not innocent. At the very least Heinz makes sure to investigate any quests they receive before going in for the kill after what happened to Darcia. If a tribe of ghouls goes around raiding villages then they deserve to get killed, just the same as if it were a group of bandits.

Damn, didn't know they let Asagi post on this forum.

Spoiler

Even Van agrees that Kanako and co were in the wrong, he just doesn't care because they're friends now.