Ad Astra - Scipio and Hannibal - Vol. 11 Ch. 69 - Resolve to Become a Monster

[MangaDex]

 

[DarthSidious9876]

Thank you for translating the chapter

 

[thefifteenth]

Thank you for the chapter.

 

[Rainbow_Prism]

Thank you for the chapter.

I can only hope that text at the end was not full of fun historical info.

 

[MetaGable]

this is where other scanlation abandoned the manga, hope we are able to see whats next.

 

[Rosen_Ritter]

That was... anticlimactic for a battle.

 

[zanonyn]

Thanks for not just doing the translation but really getting these out. Just two volumes to go!

@Rosen_Ritter
I guess realistically that's probably how a lot of the best battles (from the POV of the victors) would go, "exciting" isn't necessarily a good word in the military. I'm actually kind of refreshed though in that the author didn't try to make up and add extra fictional drama here. This is pretty much how it's recorded, and it was polarizing IRL too. Some historians considered it cowardly and barely worthy of mention (despite the fact that Hannibal absolutely ambushed whenever possible), others brilliant in terms of exploiting an opportunity and dealing absolutely enormous damage while taking essentially none. If he hadn't done it the course of history would be different, dishonorable/anticlimactic or not it was a big win in material and human resource terms.

 

[azylim]

holy shit. i thought that this chapter was too abnormal to be true but wikipedia supports most of the major themes that occured in the real life battle of utica

 

[talas]

That last page... four legions... Rome could really get troops at a outrageous pace.

 

[laiseran]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[agtra]

So.... no notice it??? Fine then I'll be the first
Nice

 

[supermoonchrome]

amazing that his is what actually happened historically

 

[Njin]

Nevermind about the dishonour: How the fuck did they not get stopped? Where there no guards posted? A 90k force getting roasted to death by 60 riders is fucking embarassing. Good thinking by Scipio, but a serious fuck-up by his enemies.

 

[rrolo1]

They were just overconfident, after all. More troops, playing in the home field ... and the fact that pushing a night attack was quite hard in those days ( well, it is still hard nowadays with radios and night vision goggles, so imagine how hard it was to pull a sucessful night attack in those days ). Also it is unlikely that were just 60 horsemen pulling the deed ...

That said, for Romans of those days, virtue was defending the homeland and the clan. Scipio roasting the enemy would not be considered dishonorable ... maybe some would decry the fact that they weren't defeated in pitched battle ( Romans loved a good military stomp down ... it is not a acident they did themselves descendants of their god of war in their own mythology ) but again, burning some Carthaginians and Numidians after what Hannibal did would almost been seen as pious by the Romans of the day.

Later Romans, though ... let's say that later Aemilians shot themselves in the foot hard ( and even Scipio was not exactly a political animal, and got himself some problems later on the line ) and for a while talking smack of them was OK. Some of the later sources are less friendly to Scipio exactly because of that ..

 

[deyrmenjian]

i wish the nightmare in the carthaginian camp was portrayed in more detail. we basically just got *fire started* -> *leaders got away*. great chapter from the roman point of view though, scipio's character development is great. we're starting to set up what will happen to him after the war.

great job to the translator as well! don't overwork yourself

 

[axelTHEGREAT]

Gaius, the Bro.

 

[smartz118]

Scipio using his soldiers disguised as servants to lower the enemy's guard and do reconnaissance was ingenious. Espionage must not have been a strong part of the Roman military, but if it was, Scipio would have written the book on it.

 

[Grimmycoffee]

Won't normal fire arrow just be snuffed out when they're in flight? I wonder what did they use here so they can keep the fire strong enough to burn when landed