Bocchi no Boku ni Kyousei Kanojo ga Yattekita - Vol. 1 Ch. 5 - Be careful with assumptions.

[MangaDex]

 

[harukuro]

despite her beautiful appearance and kind attitude, she's still keeping an insecurity that most, if not all of us reader would totally be curious.

 

[Hell12]

Thanks for the chapter bossman

 

[Quackingbean]

omg they’re like friends real

 

[HoangDinh]

despite her beautiful appearance and kind attitude, she's still keeping an insecurity that most, if not all of us reader would totally be curious.

People who are social tend to care more about relations and how they're perceived, they don't want to burden others, plus, this is japen!

 

[UnLunDun]

Kinda amazing how this manga can feel like a total otaku fantasy (the glasses fix pose lmao) but so sweet and genuine at the same time.

 

[WiseMansBlood]

hmm well random guy wasn't that bad. Like he got a bit agressive but he didn't do anything. MC had some real cool moment though.

 

[xTachibana]

hmm well random guy wasn't that bad. Like he got a bit agressive but he didn't do anything. MC had some real cool moment though.

💀 bro, chasing after a girl after she told you she had a boyfriend (fake or not, it means she's not interested and please stop making passes on her), onto a train and then on her way home...
That's a big no no. Not only is that a nono, I'm pretty sure that might legally constitute stalking? It definitely borders on illegal behavior.

 

[WiseMansBlood]

💀 bro, chasing after a girl after she told you she had a boyfriend (fake or not, it means she's not interested and please stop making passes on her), onto a train and then on her way home...
That's a big no no. Not only is that a nono, I'm pretty sure that might legally constitute stalking? It definitely borders on illegal behavior.

Well first of all that was the last time for him to see her and he was obviously trying to confess. Wanting to get that out is something entirely reasonable, there are a lot of people in the world that confess even though the other person is married or some shit. Idk how many manga you read but seeing by your pfp and name probably a lot. So I ask you this question: Have you ever noticed that it is a thing in japan for men to bring girls back home, even if they are just aquainted. Hell even in western society it was and sometimes still is a thing sometimes. Additionally to that they've been co-workers for probably years so they actually somewhat know each other, she never told him to not go with him, nor did she tell him directly off.
Not saying he overdid it and could've handled that better, but I am saying he wasn't that bad, not that he was good or anything.

Also you say fake or not. Now there is a difference between knowing that you've been turned down cus of a boyfriend or because someone made an excuse, especially considering self-confidence and validation. So if you don't tell someone that you don't want them around then there is far worse than just wanting to spend a couple more minutes together with your crush and sending them save home before parting forever.

Also just saying but she was also not the most adult in that situation. When you know a confession is comming your way or you know somone is interested in you, then just shoot them down, tell them clearly you want nothing to with them, everything else just makes it harder for the other person and yourself.
She should've simply taken that 30 minute 1 on 1 conversation and have clearly told him no. Or should've just clearly stopped him at the train. But everything thats not a clear no gives people hope, especially considering there are girls out there that want the men to try a bit harder so to say. Someone told me that a girl they asked out turned them down, just to later comeback and be angry at them for not asking said girl out a second time cus she wanted to see them try. Which is utter bullshit, no is no and not taking a no as a no even if you think its not meant seriously is not ok and should not be done like ever, but still, shit like that happens.

Anyway unless properly told off there is nothing bad about trying to spend a couple more minutes with ones crush to see them of properly, so one knows they did everything they could and had a clean ending. Now he did get angry at the end which is like bad, but he left after that, so thats just an emotional reaction that some people have. All in all considering how other people may react that is pretty darn tame and also human

 

[xTachibana]

Well first of all that was the last time for him to see her and he was obviously trying to confess. Wanting to get that out is something entirely reasonable, there are a lot of people in the world that confess even though the other person is married or some shit. Idk how many manga you read but seeing by your pfp and name probably a lot. So I ask you this question: Have you ever noticed that it is a thing in japan for men to bring girls back home, even if they are just aquainted. Hell even in western society it was and sometimes still is a thing sometimes. Additionally to that they've been co-workers for probably years so they actually somewhat know each other, she never told him to not go with him, nor did she tell him directly off.
Not saying he overdid it and could've handled that better, but I am saying he wasn't that bad, not that he was good or anything.

Also you say fake or not. Now there is a difference between knowing that you've been turned down cus of a boyfriend or because someone made an excuse, especially considering self-confidence and validation. So if you don't tell someone that you don't want them around then there is far worse than just wanting to spend a couple more minutes together with your crush and sending them save home before parting forever.

Also just saying but she was also not the most adult in that situation. When you know a confession is comming your way or you know somone is interested in you, then just shoot them down, tell them clearly you want nothing to with them, everything else just makes it harder for the other person and yourself.
She should've simply taken that 30 minute 1 on 1 conversation and have clearly told him no. Or should've just clearly stopped him at the train. But everything thats not a clear no gives people hope, especially considering there are girls out there that want the men to try a bit harder so to say. Someone told me that a girl they asked out turned them down, just to later comeback and be angry at them for not asking said girl out a second time cus she wanted to see them try. Which is utter bullshit, no is no and not taking a no as a no even if you think its not meant seriously is not ok and should not be done like ever, but still, shit like that happens.

Anyway unless properly told off there is nothing bad about trying to spend a couple more minutes with ones crush to see them of properly, so one knows they did everything they could and had a clean ending. Now he did get angry at the end which is like bad, but he left after that, so thats just an emotional reaction that some people have. All in all considering how other people may react that is pretty darn tame and also human

Bro if you still think what he did was fine even after he stalked her down like that, please never approach a woman in your life 💀you are going to catch a charge or possibly get killed, do it for your own safety.
And no, what he did and walking a girl home after drinks to make sure she gets home safely is NOT the same thing. It's actually kinda wild that you are trying to say they're even remotely the same.

 

[WiseMansBlood]

Bro if you still think what he did was fine even after he stalked her down like that, please never approach a woman in your life 💀you are going to catch a charge or possibly get killed, do it for your own safety.
And no, what he did and walking a girl home after drinks to make sure she gets home safely is NOT the same thing. It's actually kinda wild that you are trying to say they're even remotely the same.

ok explain to me how its not the same thing, what did he do that was so bad that you go to the point of saying its stalking. Like bro didn't hide, bro didn't ignore a clear rejection.
Show me how this entire scene wouldn't have been entirely different out of context with a different filter. This entire situation is only looking bad for the guy cus the mange itself is drawn in a way that makes his very existence more shady than it would realistically be and because we have all the background context.
Also it is pretty sick that you compare someone walking along someone else that they know for quite some time even if its an uncomfortable situation with something as vile and disturbing as stalking. Real stalking looks way worse and is way more problematic than this. Not only does calling something like this stalking harmfull to the entire situation as it could completely ruin someones life if they are called a stalked for something like that but it also absolutely degrades real stalking and makes it look more harmless than it actually is.

(also this I only say cus you are behaving like a toxic asshole rn that can't even discuss a fucking manga chapter properly without resorting to some really vile and disgusting insults for no fucking reason) Pls don't go near other people as you seem to be completely unable to see things from an objective point of view and are as such probably pushing your toxic opinions onto others potentially ruining their relationships with other people and making their lives more miserable.

 

[xTachibana]

ok explain to me how its not the same thing, what did he do that was so bad that you go to the point of saying its stalking. Like bro didn't hide, bro didn't ignore a clear rejection.
Show me how this entire scene wouldn't have been entirely different out of context with a different filter. This entire situation is only looking bad for the guy cus the mange itself is drawn in a way that makes his very existence more shady than it would realistically be and because we have all the background context.
Also it is pretty sick that you compare someone walking along someone else that they know for quite some time even if its an uncomfortable situation with something as vile and disturbing as stalking. Real stalking looks way worse and is way more problematic than this. Not only does calling something like this stalking harmfull to the entire situation as it could completely ruin someones life if they are called a stalked for something like that but it also absolutely degrades real stalking and makes it look more harmless than it actually is.

(also this I only say cus you are behaving like a toxic asshole rn that can't even discuss a fucking manga chapter properly without resorting to some really vile and disgusting insults for no fucking reason) Pls don't go near other people as you seem to be completely unable to see things from an objective point of view and are as such probably pushing your toxic opinions onto others potentially ruining their relationships with other people and making their lives more miserable.

You don't need to hide for it to be stalking. Following someone when they tell you to stop following them and making them feel anxious, afraid or intimidated is stalking, per the legal definition.
Note how he says that he's "been watching her" and he didn't believe she has a boyfriend, this increased her wariness over him. At this point, she already is uncomfortable with his presence. Then he continued to follow her off the train on her way home...not because he was worried she'd be attacked because she's walking home late at night by herself...no, he did it because he didn't believe she had a boyfriend and he wanted to force the issue because he wants to get with her. Then he grabbed her hand without her consent (this is battery btw, maybe assault in some places)...then after she tells him that her boyfriend is waiting for her, he STILL kept going after her and ONLY left because the main character appeared.
Now, use your brain for a second. If the MC never showed up, and she went all the way home, at what point do you think he would have left? Do you think he would have left once he saw her safely enter her home? Or do you think he would have tried to make his way into her place?
And let's say you believe he would have left after she got home....do you think she would have a reasonable fear for her safety or life the closer she got home? Do you think she might be afraid that he would try to enter her home and rape her?
This is not an issue where I'm unable to see your perspective, it's that your perspective is so insane that I simply can't believe that you seriously believe it. What he did is not ok, and if you did it in real life, you would be a creep. If your presence is unwanted by someone, leave them alone. Do not continue to chase after them when they're going home, that just makes you look creepier and is illegal in many countries. If you're that worried for their safety, suggest staying at the train station with them until their boyfriend comes to pick them up. That way they would feel less wary of you because you are willing to stay with them in a public location, and you also aren't following them to their home.

 

[Ekusupuroshion]

Well first of all that was the last time for him to see her and he was obviously trying to confess. Wanting to get that out is something entirely reasonable, there are a lot of people in the world that confess even though the other person is married or some shit. Idk how many manga you read but seeing by your pfp and name probably a lot. So I ask you this question: Have you ever noticed that it is a thing in japan for men to bring girls back home, even if they are just aquainted. Hell even in western society it was and sometimes still is a thing sometimes. Additionally to that they've been co-workers for probably years so they actually somewhat know each other, she never told him to not go with him, nor did she tell him directly off.
Not saying he overdid it and could've handled that better, but I am saying he wasn't that bad, not that he was good or anything.

Also you say fake or not. Now there is a difference between knowing that you've been turned down cus of a boyfriend or because someone made an excuse, especially considering self-confidence and validation. So if you don't tell someone that you don't want them around then there is far worse than just wanting to spend a couple more minutes together with your crush and sending them save home before parting forever.

Also just saying but she was also not the most adult in that situation. When you know a confession is comming your way or you know somone is interested in you, then just shoot them down, tell them clearly you want nothing to with them, everything else just makes it harder for the other person and yourself.
She should've simply taken that 30 minute 1 on 1 conversation and have clearly told him no. Or should've just clearly stopped him at the train. But everything thats not a clear no gives people hope, especially considering there are girls out there that want the men to try a bit harder so to say. Someone told me that a girl they asked out turned them down, just to later comeback and be angry at them for not asking said girl out a second time cus she wanted to see them try. Which is utter bullshit, no is no and not taking a no as a no even if you think its not meant seriously is not ok and should not be done like ever, but still, shit like that happens.

Anyway unless properly told off there is nothing bad about trying to spend a couple more minutes with ones crush to see them of properly, so one knows they did everything they could and had a clean ending. Now he did get angry at the end which is like bad, but he left after that, so thats just an emotional reaction that some people have. All in all considering how other people may react that is pretty darn tame and also human

He was already angry before then and still followed her into the train. If anything, by the end he was barganing, desperate. He didn't "leave after that" (being angry), he left after a man appeared.

It didn't start so cataclysmically bad: it's reasonable to argue that touching someone as they lose their balance, even if its in a place it'd normally not be okay to touch a stranger, ought to fall under the protection of a good samaritan law; he missed her silent queues when he first tried to brought it up but they were suddenly interrupted; Its not unreasonable that someone would look for a ring/ keep an ear out for a confirmation of a partner/ask a mutual acquaintance before making a move.
But then he fails to notice her dodging his question and forces himself to accompanny her, even after multiple refusals, and the way he categorically states he's "been watching her" and "knows she doesn't have a bf" are all red flags. Losing your temper when things don't go your way is a huge one. Alcohol doesn't excuse it, it only speeds up the process.

 Is it possible for me to insist after a "fake no" and manage to pull a victory out of the jaws of defeat? Yes but its my neck on the line: if I did read the situation properly, I'm on my way to a happily ever after, if not, I am a creep. It's no small gamble and leaves an innocent party exposed to an unconfortable and often scary situation.

Few stories ever acknowledge, let alone delve into how unconfortable it can be when someone you don't know "confesses their love": you have no attachment to that person, you might feel no attraction and they tell you they've been keeping an eye on you?
Even if it's a harmless, genuine crush, the person on the receiving end can't know that. It's not always a compliment.

No one's entitled to take a load off their chest because no one's required to put up with it and listen against their will.

You have to consider that intention only counts for so much in interactions with strangers/acquaitances: the other party's interpretation of what happens (outside your inner monologue) has it's own weight and so does properly taking that into account (or not), i.e. empathy.
What he did was bad: he came across bad, he put her in a spot publically, he insisted into accompanying her home and he didn't think about how any of that made the individual on the receiving end feel.