Boku no Tsuma wa Kanjou ga Nai - Vol. 7 Ch. 42

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I can't bring myself to care about this manga at all anymore. I think this is my stop.
 
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The "resetting her memory every day" thing is very weird. The school-attending Shitorari robot would need to have some memories carry over just to be able to follow the school curricula, wouldn't she?

One thing I mentioned about chapter 39 was that the Shitorari at the end of the chapter (who I suspect is a different Shitorari than the one from the beginning of the chapter) had a heart that was beating rapidly when she was talking to Megu. I assumed at the time that the Shitorari at the beginning of the chapter was the robot and the one at the end of the chapter was the human Shitorari but it seems now that they were both robots? I suppose this means that some robots have simulated heartbeats?
 
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I understand what her father is trying to do, but what is the point of giving the girl memories that are not her own? What if it takes years for her to wake up? All those people she (or rather, the robots) met will have moved on with their lives...
When you fall unconscious, your perception of the passage of time ceases, a.k.a. reduced awareness. From the moment you close your eyes to the moment you wake up, any amount of time could pass, since your brain is not registering anything in this interim. This amount of time could be minutes, hours, days, years, and all of it feels like only a brief moment. This is why people get surprised when "just 5 more minutes" of sleep becomes an hour. This is also why coma patients go into a panic and develop traumas when they finally wake up - to them, a whole decade felt like ten seconds. It's hard to come back from that as a sane human being.

The CEO's plan is actually very impressive, and so is the technology used for it. He's essentially granting formative memories (which are invaluable to human beings) to his daughter so that she will grow up healthy. Having continued memories from her growing years and the people she knew when she was awake instead of an empty void between childhood and adulthood might just save her from a lifetime of psychiatric help and hospital visits.
 
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When you fall unconscious, your perception of the passage of time ceases, a.k.a. reduced awareness. From the moment you close your eyes to the moment you wake up, any amount of time could pass, since your brain is not registering anything in this interim. This amount of time could be minutes, hours, days, years, and all of it feels like only a brief moment. This is why people get surprised when "just 5 more minutes" of sleep become an hour. This is also why coma patients go into a panic and develop traumas when they finally wake up - to them, a whole decade felt like ten seconds. It's hard to come back from that as a sane human being.

The CEO's plan is actually very impressive, and so is the technology used for it. He's essentially granting formative memories (which are invaluable to human beings) to his daughter so that she will grow up healthy. Having continued memories from her growing years and the people she knew when she was awake instead of an empty void between childhood and adulthood might just save her from a lifetime of psychiatric help and hospital visits.
But she is frozen in time, retaining her original age. She is not aging up, so i don't see how it would benefit her... Shouldn't he just let her wake up and live her life from there?
 
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I really don't know why this wasn't a side story, this manga was supposed to be about a guy married to a robot, not a high school robot club or random robot relationships.
Idk. The main story always felt like a means to an end - the romance played second fiddle to philosophy. From the start, this manga has been super heady regarding the philosophy of human-machine relationships, the ethical questions related to the social integration of machines, and the breadth and meaning of human-machine interactions. This seriously feels like a textbook for human-machine ethics in manga form.

Point being that the author has covered practically all the ground he can using the initial relationship. They've gone from cohabitation to romance to marriage to having children, and even exploring miscellaneous situations like handling stray robots. They explored a lot of the basics of living in a society with socially integrated machines.

It's not like the shift away from them came out of nowhere. There's just not many ideas left for them to explore. I'm sure we'll revisit them often, but I suspect that most of the real narrative meat rests with characters who are in different circumstances.
 
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Is it me or translation is kinda bad?

Page 1: missing "H" in "How".
Page 6: "Well-born girls don't know that their heads can be taken off" - right after her head falls off. Maybe she wanted to say, that they do actually "know"?
Page 7: "It's life threatening for a reason, and modern medical technology can't seem to help." - sounds like some assassination attempt, lol. "Her condition is life threatening, and modern medical technology can't seem to help." makes more sense.
Page 9: First of all, it's not "end of the school year", but "end of the school day", right? And the second text box should probably say something like "In the morning, they would overwrite robot's memory with ShiratoriiShitorarii's..."
Page 22: "So hard for you to leave school with me" - ?
Page 27: Girlfriend ShiratoriiShitorarii's lines sound really weird. "It's too late", "you want me to be all kinds of fun"
 
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But she is frozen in time, retaining her original age. She is not aging up, so i don't see how it would benefit her... Shouldn't he just let her wake up and live her life from there?
Time is still passing. She could wake up to a completely different world and zeitgeist. People she cares for will continue to age, and they could move/pass away in that time as well. It's lost time all the same, so her father is making up for it.
 
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didnt even bother to read the whole chapter(no offense scanlator san, youre pog) but, is author san asking for this series to get axed sooner?

I wouldn't be surprised if adding a school setting increased this manga's popularity in Japan (although I have no sales data to back this up... if someone knows where we can get sales data for volume 5 and beyond, it would be very useful).

Why is there 2 of them now ?

I suspect there are many more robot Shitoraris than that if the Roman numerals on the "choker" collars are anything to go by.
 
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I... hate this chapter. I hate it a lot. Not because it isn't focusing on the main characters, or even the sub characters. I hate it because it feels like it's straight out of Nichijou. For a series that at least PARTIALLY grounded itself in some form of reality, this chapter is WAY too absurd to make any fucking sense.

What is the author doing?!
 
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Idk. The main story always felt like a means to an end - the romance played second fiddle to philosophy. From the start, this manga has been super heady regarding the philosophy of human-machine relationships, the ethical questions related to the social integration of machines, and the breadth and meaning of human-machine interactions. This seriously feels like a textbook for human-machine ethics in manga form.

Point being that the author has covered practically all the ground he can using the initial relationship. They've gone from cohabitation to romance to marriage to having children, and even exploring miscellaneous situations like handling stray robots. They explored a lot of the basics of living in a society with socially integrated machines.

It's not like the shift away from them came out of nowhere. There's just not many ideas left for them to explore. I'm sure we'll revisit them often, but I suspect that most of the real narrative meat rests with characters who are in different circumstances.
I see what you mean, but romance/slice of life mangas out there manage to explore so many different situations and emotions in several chapters... this manga, that focuses on a new perspective that brings new possibilites, should still be able to portray many different and interesting situations with the main couple.

I don't know if the author's intention was ALWAYS to focus more on the world itself than on the main couple, but if his intention was to make a romance manga, i feel like he started to rush things way too fast.
 
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Can the people that are complaining just leave already? The author wants to make more than just the main couple, if you dont like it, go away, this manga is about robots and the questions that living and loving them brings to the table, if you dont like it, go read something else, you wont be missed.

Uhh, no. I'll continue to comment on things I read whether I like them or not. If you don't like people having different opinions than you, either suck it up and learn to get past it or get off the internet. There's no need to be a jerk to others just because you don't want to see dissent (and before you argue that you aren't being a jerk, tagging my post as dumb, telling people to "go away" and get out because "they won't be missed" is being a jerk.)
 
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I see what you mean, but romance/slice of life mangas out there manage to explore so many different situations and emotions in several chapters... this manga, that focuses on a new perspective that brings new possibilites, should still be able to portray many different and interesting situations with the main couple.

I don't know if the author's intention was ALWAYS to focus more on the world itself than on the main couple, but if his intention was to make a romance manga, i feel like he started to rush things way too fast.

My issue is that if the author wanted to go into a wider array of characters, this should've been an anthology/group series from the start. Instead it was like 30 chapters of mostly Takuma/Mina/Mamorou and then in the last 12 chapters it's increasingly shifted to the high school robot club. It probably also shouldn't have been titled "my wife has no emotions" which obviously places Takuma and Mina as the central characters.

I don't fault the author for having grander ideas than a small-cast slice of life series, but doing it this way is a bait-and-switch. Bring people in for the light philosophical SOL home-life rom-com, then once they're hooked switch it up to high school kids having intro-to-philosophy level debates about AI ethics, the nature of consciousness, and the definition of life. It's like if you started reading a shonen battle manga and then after 50 chapters it turned into a domestic cooking comedy and just stayed that way.
 
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Wow, this chapter was just bad... The problem is not that we don't have the main couple but this chapter was just silly and not making any sense. It did not feel deep or anything. It felt like the author was just throwing a cool idea they thought of without thinking of it for 5 minutes. The author can do it tho I think the biggest example is the other Mina that is getting drinks in the rain because her owner died and he did not want her to lose their memories. It is a deep idea that can be debated on what is good and no for a person and told without many words.

This chapter was just random.
 
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My issue is that if the author wanted to go into a wider array of characters, this should've been an anthology/group series from the start. Instead it was like 30 chapters of mostly Takuma/Mina/Mamorou and then in the last 12 chapters it's increasingly shifted to the high school robot club. It probably also shouldn't have been titled "my wife has no emotions" which obviously places Takuma and Mina as the central characters.

I don't fault the author for having grander ideas than a small-cast slice of life series, but doing it this way is a bait-and-switch. Bring people in for the light philosophical SOL home-life rom-com, then once they're hooked switch it up to high school kids having intro-to-philosophy level debates about AI ethics, the nature of consciousness, and the definition of life. It's like if you started reading a shonen battle manga and then after 50 chapters it turned into a domestic cooking comedy and just stayed that way.
Yes exactly. It's not like we only had a couple of chapters at first portraying the lives of Mina and the MC... no, many of the chapters focused on them; hell, the name of the manga implies that it is the main point of the series, so i totally agree that it feels like bait and switch.
 
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I see what you mean, but romance/slice of life mangas out there manage to explore so many different situations and emotions in several chapters... this manga, that focuses on a new perspective that brings new possibilites, should still be able to portray many different and interesting situations with the main couple.

I don't know if the author's intention was ALWAYS to focus more on the world itself than on the main couple, but if his intention was to make a romance manga, i feel like he started to rush things way too fast.
I don't know what his intention was per se, but it's just a feeling I've had. He always spent more time exploring the ethics side of stuff and the philosophy stuff than the romance stuff - even with the titular couple. You're right that there's plenty of minutiae they could explore, but most of the big issues have been tackled by them, I feel.

Look at this chapter. A big part of the ridiculousness that you and others feel is because this is a particularly hamfisted attempt at fitting a philosophical and ethical quandary into the story. Restated without the storytelling trappings, the question is: "is it okay to have a robot record memories for and live in place of somebody else?" It's an interesting ethical quandary, but it's very hard to build a grounded story around it.

That's obviously something the author wanted to explore, but it's not something he could explore with the main characters. I don't think this was the best chapter but I've read worse stuff. It still has some thematic continuity because the focus is on love between humans and machines, but the thematic continuity is all that it has.

Maybe I'm wrong about the direction of where this is headed. But if I'm not, I think the author's biggest mistake wasn't the direction or anything he's actually written. It would be the title. If the goal is to explore ethics and machine human relations first and the romance of these two characters second, then he should have tried to attract an audience that was interested in the primary focus, instead of people who were interested in the secondary focus (the romance). But I'm willing to give the author the benefit of the doubt and guess that the publisher probably wanted him to work the romantic angle. There's a larger audience for that. But it does set the audience up for disappointment when the story they signed up for isn't really there.

IDK. We'll see what happens.
 
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Shit. It's the exact same situation as with Fechippuru that I dropped hard when it went so off rails you could see the crash from miles away(dropped the main couple and cute romcom in favor of pure unadulterated drama with totally forgettable side characters..)...
 
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I don't know what his intention was per se, but it's just a feeling I've had. He always spent more time exploring the ethics side of stuff and the philosophy stuff than the romance stuff - even with the titular couple. You're right that there's plenty of minutiae they could explore, but most of the big issues have been tackled by them, I feel.

Look at this chapter. A big part of the ridiculousness that you and others feel is because this is a particularly hamfisted attempt at fitting a philosophical and ethical quandary into the story. Restated without the storytelling trappings, the question is: "is it okay to have a robot record memories for and live in place of somebody else?" It's an interesting ethical quandary, but it's very hard to build a grounded story around it.

That's obviously something the author wanted to explore, but it's not something he could explore with the main characters. I don't think this was the best chapter but I've read worse stuff. It still has some thematic continuity because the focus is on love between humans and machines, but the thematic continuity is all that it has.

Maybe I'm wrong about the direction of where this is headed. But if I'm not, I think the author's biggest mistake wasn't the direction or anything he's actually written. It would be the title. If the goal is to explore ethics and machine human relations first and the romance of these two characters second, then he should have tried to attract an audience that was interested in the primary focus, instead of people who were interested in the secondary focus (the romance). But I'm willing to give the author the benefit of the doubt and guess that the publisher probably wanted him to work the romantic angle. There's a larger audience for that. But it does set the audience up for disappointment when the story they signed up for isn't really there.

IDK. We'll see what happens.
Yeah i agree. My main point of complaint here is that the story was initially sold to the audience as being focused on the main couple (the title and the vast majority of the initial chapters), so it is understandable that people feel frustrated when that point is put on hold so often and for so long. If the story tried to diversify its content to encompass human-robot relationships in general ever since the beggining, including having a different title to sell that idea, it wouldn't feel like bait-and-switch.
 
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Is it me or translation is kinda bad?

Page 1: missing "H" in "How".
Page 6: "Well-born girls don't know that their heads can be taken off" - right after her head falls off. Maybe she wanted to say, that they do actually "know"?
Page 7: "It's life threatening for a reason, and modern medical technology can't seem to help." - sounds like some assassination attempt, lol. "Her condition is life threatening, and modern medical technology can't seem to help." makes more sense.
Page 9: First of all, it's not "end of the school year", but "end of the school day", right? And the second text box should probably say something like "In the morning, they would overwrite robot's memory with Shiratorii's..."
Page 22: "So hard for you to leave school with me" - ?
Page 27: Girlfriend Shiratorii's lines sound really weird. "It's too late", "you want me to be all kinds of fun"
Page 1 I didn't catch that and it was most definitely rendered incorrectly due to a bug on photoshop, because it did say "how" on the layer text but somehow the h went missing. Fixed
Page 6 she's saying that other well-born girls don't know that their heads can be taken off, only she's rich enough to have that knowledge.
Page 7 That seems like a nitpick to me, it's still very understandable how I put it.
Page 9 Yep, that one's on me and I didn't catch it, it is indeed school day. Fixed
Page 22 Yes, she's saying that because they always left school together and she says that is must have been painful for him due to her not knowing he loves her.
Page 27 Too late as in, she thinks the relationship is over, she's too clingy.
 

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