Daily Life of a Couple in Which the Boyfriend Became a Girl One Day - Ch. 50

[MangaDex]

 

[CaroFDoom]

even fictional characters have to deal with japan's archaic laws and lack of gay marriage 😭😭😭

 

[kuma]

they deserve to get married.

 

[Mangamoz]

Oh Japan's gay marriage ban rearing it's ugly face.

This and last chaps mentioning of stem cell research shows this author is not just making a superficial yuri story.

They know their stuff which is rare in Japan's homophobic culture.

 

[Blaze_Rod]

I wonder what would have happened if they had managed to get legally married before the GB noodle incident happened to Subaru. Would the state try to dissolve the marriage, or would they just let it be?

 

[Mr_Detective]

Oh Japan's gay marriage ban rearing it's ugly face.

This and last chaps mentioning of stem cell research shows this author is not just making a superficial yuri story.

They know their stuff which is rare in Japan's homophobic culture.

Japan's culture isn't very homophobic. If we go back a few hundred years when samurai had gay lovers (though I'm not sure how socially acceptable this was), so from someone's point of view, it's as if they regress backward. I still wouldn't call this something rare, though.

Japan and the neighboring Asian countries are still reluctant in this subject, but I think many are more okay with the idea. Vietnam, for example, doesn't have a ban on gay marriage, they just don't recognize it yet. I might be mistaken but I think this is the same in Japan as well. Gay people aren't banned from having their own wedding, they just aren't recognized. A slight difference, if you care. In terms of safety, they are still above many other countries in the world. Hell, even in a first world country like the US, gay people are more likely to be killed than in Japan. So to say that their culture is homophobic is quite an exaggeration to me, at least if we compare it to other countries. And your comment is so suddenly out of no where that I question the point of it...

In any case, considering this is fiction, nothing stops the author from making an ending where gay marriage is recognized and they have kids in the end.

I do apologize if this comment was too long, lol.

 

[chusetto]

Well, if his ID is still a male, maybe they can get married (?)

 

[rwp140]

oh my sapphic heart

 

[SkyVentus]

Japan's culture isn't very homophobic. If we go back a few hundred years when samurai had gay lovers (though I'm not sure how socially acceptable this was), so from someone's point of view, it's as if they regress backward. I still wouldn't call this something rare, though.

Japan and the neighboring Asian countries are still reluctant in this subject, but I think many are more okay with the idea. Vietnam, for example, doesn't have a ban on gay marriage, they just don't recognize it yet. I might be mistaken but I think this is the same in Japan as well. Gay people aren't banned from having their own wedding, they just aren't recognized. A slight difference, if you care. In terms of safety, they are still above many other countries in the world. Hell, even in a first world country like the US, gay people are more likely to be killed than in Japan. So to say that their culture is homophobic is quite an exaggeration to me, at least if we compare it to other countries. And your comment is so suddenly out of no where that I question the point of it...

In any case, considering this is fiction, nothing stops the author from making an ending where gay marriage is recognized and they have kids in the end.

I do apologize if this comment was too long, lol.

Too based

 

[jazck]

Japan's culture isn't very homophobic. If we go back a few hundred years when samurai had gay lovers (though I'm not sure how socially acceptable this was), so from someone's point of view, it's as if they regress backward. I still wouldn't call this something rare, though.

Japan and the neighboring Asian countries are still reluctant in this subject, but I think many are more okay with the idea. Vietnam, for example, doesn't have a ban on gay marriage, they just don't recognize it yet. I might be mistaken but I think this is the same in Japan as well. Gay people aren't banned from having their own wedding, they just aren't recognized. A slight difference, if you care. In terms of safety, they are still above many other countries in the world. Hell, even in a first world country like the US, gay people are more likely to be killed than in Japan. So to say that their culture is homophobic is quite an exaggeration to me, at least if we compare it to other countries. And your comment is so suddenly out of no where that I question the point of it...

In any case, considering this is fiction, nothing stops the author from making an ending where gay marriage is recognized and they have kids in the end.

I do apologize if this comment was too long, lol.

Hell, even in a first world country like the US, gay people are more likely to be killed than in Japan

While this statement may be true on the face, this is because there are the are barely any homicides in the first place in Japan. Researching into hate crime against marginalized folks in Japan in the first is tricky in the first place because the country has no national human rights institutions, which I think itself is telling.

Don't get me wrong, Japan is definitely safer compared to some other Asian countries (way better than Singapore on this, at least), but I don't think it's right to excuse failures of the dominant party system in any regard - especially when nearby is Taiwan, which is miles better in this area legally in every regard.

 

[AncientWatcher]

Still the same, but now the boyfriend has bigger boobs than his girlfriend.

 

[OkamiLeek006]

Japan's culture isn't very homophobic. If we go back a few hundred years when samurai had gay lovers (though I'm not sure how socially acceptable this was), so from someone's point of view, it's as if they regress backward. I still wouldn't call this something rare, though.

Japan and the neighboring Asian countries are still reluctant in this subject, but I think many are more okay with the idea. Vietnam, for example, doesn't have a ban on gay marriage, they just don't recognize it yet. I might be mistaken but I think this is the same in Japan as well. Gay people aren't banned from having their own wedding, they just aren't recognized. A slight difference, if you care. In terms of safety, they are still above many other countries in the world. Hell, even in a first world country like the US, gay people are more likely to be killed than in Japan. So to say that their culture is homophobic is quite an exaggeration to me, at least if we compare it to other countries. And your comment is so suddenly out of no where that I question the point of it...

In any case, considering this is fiction, nothing stops the author from making an ending where gay marriage is recognized and they have kids in the end.

I do apologize if this comment was too long, lol.

While it is true that Japan's (and many other colonized areas) culture wasn't homophobic pre-europe influence, that doesn't indicate better treatment now (look at Uganda), in fact, discrimination against queer people isn't protected almost at all, so much so that some trans folks identify as disabled to recieve more protections, gay couples cannot adopt, parents cannot transition if they child is under 20, and have to be divorced as to avoid a same sex marriage.

Queer people in the US face more violence, but at least they can be protected against some of them, while in Japan you're out of luck for the most part

 

[Candymon]

I was wondering if the author was going to continue in the direction of the previous chapter, and I can appreciate them not being afraid to go there and incorporate realistic elements.

Some of us are lucky to be in places where we are accepted or at least tolerated for who we are and even protected by the community or law. Some of us are not and have to figure out how to make it work or find somewhere to go. I remember the first day of a philosophy course where my professor posited that our life is greatly influenced by geography and luck. I still think about that a lot.

 

[Mr_Detective]

especially when nearby is Taiwan, which is miles better in this area legally in every regard.

Taiwan, Thailand, Australia, and New Zealand I believe are better than Japan. But while they are behind these countries, they aren't much worse than the others. They have room to improve for sure, but sometimes, some people talk as if Japan is a middle eastern country in this regard, which baffles me.

While it is true that Japan's (and many other colonized areas) culture wasn't homophobic pre-europe influence, that doesn't indicate better treatment now (look at Uganda), in fact, discrimination against queer people isn't protected almost at all, so much so that some trans folks identify as disabled to recieve more protections, gay couples cannot adopt, parents cannot transition if they child is under 20, and have to be divorced as to avoid a same sex marriage.

Queer people in the US face more violence, but at least they can be protected against some of them, while in Japan you're out of luck for the most part

I cannot protect you from violence. I cannot protect you from bullets. The laws cannot stop idiots from hurting you, only punish them. If you are facing discrimination in the ways that you are mentioned, you can still fight for your rights. You can live without adoption. You can live without being officially married. I've never heard of anyone getting arrested for transitioning while having underage kid, either. However, can you live in peace if you are at risk of facing violence or even be killed by crazy psychopaths?

In Japan, you might be lacking those rights, but you can still live and have to worry less about facing violence. And rights can be fought for with your voice and your vote. In the US, even the most liberal states can't guarantee your safety. I can't help you if you're dead.

Guess the bottom line is that both countries have problems to deal with. But Japan seems to be having an easier path.

 

[OkamiLeek006]

Taiwan, Thailand, Australia, and New Zealand I believe are better than Japan. But while they are behind these countries, they aren't much worse than the others. They have room to improve, but sometimes, some people talk as if Japan is a middle eastern country in this regard, which baffles me.



I cannot protect you from violence. I cannot protect you from bullets. The laws cannot stop idiots from hurting you, only punish them. If you are facing discrimination in the ways that you are mentioned, you can still fight for your rights. You can live without adoption. You can live without being officially married. I've never heard of anyone getting arrested for transitioning while having underage kid, either. However, can you live in peace if you are at risk of facing violence or even be killed by crazy psychopaths?

In Japan, you might be lacking those rights, but you can still live and have to worry less about facing violence. And rights can be fought for with your voice and your vote. In the US, even the most liberal states can't guarantee your safety. I can't help you if you're dead.

Guess the bottom line is that they both have problems to deal with. But Japan seems to be having an easier path.

Yes because safety is gonna do a lot for someone who is unable to get a job due to discrimination

These protections often have more than significant impact in multiple areas of our lives, not just punishment

 

[Mr_Detective]

Yes because safety is gonna do a lot for someone who is unable to get a job due to discrimination

Queer people are still able to get jobs there. I prefer safety, yes. Discrimination can still happen in the US. Your application can still be tossed out without being given a reason. Or do you advocate diversity/quota hire?

These protections often have more than significant impact in multiple areas of our lives, not just punishment

Already addressed this. At this point, if you are happy in the US or wherever you are, good for you.

 

[OkamiLeek006]

Queer people are still able to get jobs there. I prefer safety, yes. Discrimination can still happen in the US. Your application can still be tossed out without being given a reason. Or do you advocate diversity/quota hire?



Already addressed this. At this point, if you are happy in the US or wherever you are, good for you.

I am not american, nor am I defending the US

I'm trying to tell you that these rights are extremely important for us to actually live, safety is good and all but when we are vulnerable to ample discrimination in the workplace, for hiring, in healthcare and many other things we suffer, a lot, and trying to minimize such issues with "hey at least you're alive" isn't a good standard to follow

"trans people still can get jobs" isn't a good response at all, they still get refused out of many options, and being in poverty opens you up to a lot more violence

 

[Mr_Detective]

I am not american, nor am I defending the US

OK. Just using the US as an example for my point.

I'm trying to tell you that these rights are extremely important for us to actually live, safety is good and all but when we are vulnerable to ample discrimination in the workplace, for hiring, in healthcare and many other things we suffer, a lot, and trying to minimize such issues with "hey at least you're alive" isn't a good standard to follow

I think I clearly addressed this already. It's an issue of safety + governmental policies/rights + societal acceptance. It's better if you're safe first, with some degree of social acceptance, before you can fight for other rights. Maybe if you live in the US, you'd understand me better, or maybe not, I don't know, shrugs. I wasn't minimizing anything. Maybe you just want to have governmental policies before anything else.

"trans people still can get jobs" isn't a good response at all, they still get refused out of many options, and being in poverty opens you up to a lot more violence

I think I explained my response properly already. In any case, whatever you prefer is up to you. I've said my piece. Can't help you with your country's policy.

 

[NagatoKaiNi]

I wonder what would have happened if they had managed to get legally married before the GB noodle incident happened to Subaru. Would the state try to dissolve the marriage, or would they just let it be?

It would be dissolved, at least that's what happens when someone registers a medical gender change IRL.

 

[Whitehalo127]

I don't know how true the statement "Japan is homophobic" is. I also don't know how false the statement is. But what I do know is that simply because a country has no policies against homosexuals doesn't mean it has any policies for homosexuals. Simply because someone (or a country) isn't actively going against homosexuals doesn't mean the person (country) isn't homophobic. The lack of policies, protections, and rights afforded to the group should be examined when analyzing the original statement "Japan is homophobic" especially if the country has more and more people of that persuasion (for a lack of a better word).

With this information is obvious that Japan isn't as homophobic as some Middle Eastern countries but that's not really anything to be proud of. This can be boiled down to "we don't suck as much as them". Yeah, ok. True but that doesn't mean you don't suck. It doesn't mean you are good. Nor does it mean you actually support the cause. Not being killed is very low hanging fruit. (and truth be told I am a bit of skeptic on that as Japan has been known for having unreported crimes)