Isekai Shoukan-sareta ga Kyousei Soukan-sareta Ore ha shikatanaku yaseru koto ni shita.
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@boag
to be fair, Mushoku Tensei is already a pretty good commentary on the mc and isekai readers, though it flies over some of the fans heads. Each of the heroines where a pretty direct statement of the things that were wrong with his personality that lead to his old life being so disappointing. Even if he thought he was going to work harder and have a better life when he was reborn, he had to first learn humility alongside Roxy (coming to understand that no matter how great he is at one thing, there will be others who can accomplish things he struggles with, like just stepping outside and meeting strangers, with ease), comradery/companionship with Sylphie(learning how to make and treat friends to overcome your shortcomings), and responsibility/devotion with Eris (fully committing himself to his loved ones even if it's dangerous and may get him killed).
So they were never the goddesses of wisdom, love, and war as fans say but of humility, companionship, and devotion. Each of them had big events with him in his youth that had a huge impact on his character. He, at the end of the story, was defined by these. That's why the harem couldn't expand beyond the three and why he couldn't try to takeover the world or become immortal with his magic in the end. That would fly in the face of the meaning behind the story and the points made about the character and, by extension, the readers.
So they were never the goddesses of wisdom, love, and war as fans say but of humility, companionship, and devotion. Each of them had big events with him in his youth that had a huge impact on his character. He, at the end of the story, was defined by these. That's why the harem couldn't expand beyond the three and why he couldn't try to takeover the world or become immortal with his magic in the end. That would fly in the face of the meaning behind the story and the points made about the character and, by extension, the readers.
@boag
idk, I think they still fit with how their personalities are suppose to be with the added character trait they represent. Sylphie was still the one that bound the household together, Eris still devoted herself to being "Rudeus's knight" and trained for that sake (or raised her son with that mindset, kicking his ass when he tried to run off and get married cuz he wasn't strong enough yet), and the only reason Roxy could become a teacher in the first place was because she reflected on her past with her teacher and humbled herself to him.
for Orsted...kinda hard to say. What about the story structure really changed? Before Orsted joins, he did still travel from place to place at times for his family and associates. I would say, it's just that Orsted became included in that.
for Orsted...kinda hard to say. What about the story structure really changed? Before Orsted joins, he did still travel from place to place at times for his family and associates. I would say, it's just that Orsted became included in that.
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@Meridis
Silphy became a doormat
Eris devolved into a muscle head retard
the only one that even kept some semblance of personality was Roxy, and even then she just bend over backwards for Rudy.
Orsted became the driving force behind the series, everything revolved around him all the way to the end, and honestly it really felt like Orsted was the writers self insert at that point.
Silphy became a doormat
Eris devolved into a muscle head retard
the only one that even kept some semblance of personality was Roxy, and even then she just bend over backwards for Rudy.
Orsted became the driving force behind the series, everything revolved around him all the way to the end, and honestly it really felt like Orsted was the writers self insert at that point.
@boag
each thing you stated is an interpretation of what they were meant to represent, though. Sylphie's character was introduced under the idea of being mutually supportive. That could be seen or displayed as being a doormat to some but that is still the core of her character. Same with Eris's simpleminded focus on training and fighting. Even as a kid, she was muscle headed and aggressive. From my perspective, it looks more like you had reason not to like them from the beginning and probably didn't get tired of it until they where married. The essence of each character didn't change, only their setting transitioning to home-life.
Orsted guided Rudy but the driving forces in the story were the same. He only followed Orsted because of his family and their future, same reason he moved about before.
Orsted guided Rudy but the driving forces in the story were the same. He only followed Orsted because of his family and their future, same reason he moved about before.
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sorry, it was so long ago to me that I forgot to think that people hadn't read it. It kinda entered that "Aerith dies" territory where it isn't worth tip toeing around it as a spoiler in my mind.
sorry, it was so long ago to me that I forgot to think that people hadn't read it. It kinda entered that "Aerith dies" territory where it isn't worth tip toeing around it as a spoiler in my mind.
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Wow seems goods i need a jugement skill too can be fun to see how is my 110/?? obesety x)
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@Meridis you can defend your onaholes all you want, they have no traits leftover after they marry.
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cry me a river bitch.
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Actual Mushoku Tensei wn readers?
The series really does become interesting after Rudeus dies an old man in that basement.
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