Jinsei Gyakuten: Uwaki Sare, Enzai o Kiserareta Ore ga, Gakuen Ichi no Bishoujo ni Natsukareru - Ch. 5

[pachingching]

2 goats + chad-sensei are in the mix!

get that bitch outta here!

 

[TenThousandWaspsInACoat]

I disagree with the phrasing, but she definitely didn't know about the plans.

Spoilers from much later chapters/episodes.

Spoiler

She didn't know, and she didn't actively help.

Kondo told her the photos were for proof of DV, but he didn't elaborate on how they would be used. Miyuki didn't question it either. She didn't help him take the photos, but she certainly didn't try to stop him from taking the photos. And, Kondo didn't warn her before making the bruises worse.

She didn't know how the photos were going to be immediately used to spread rumors about and bully Eiji.

It could be argued that her passiveness helped, but just saying she helped implies that she was a part of the planning and execution rather than just being there.

Her real sin is being passive and not actively doing anything to stop it from escalating.

That's making excuses for her. She knew he was making the bruises worse for a reason. She knew he was taking them for a reason. Her willfully ignoring all of that, was complicity and tacit approval. She never came forward and stayed with him even after he started spreading the rumors and pictures, still being fine with the entire situation thinking it would all just resolve itself once Kondo graduates.

She only got upset when she saw him with another girl.

 

[RadDengar]

If the next chapter shows her talking to his mom you better get popcorn ready folks.

 

[Neammaanniexistantav]

That friend gonna be mvp

 

[Elhao]

This is genuinely a controversial opinion and i expect a lot of people to completely disagree with what i will say next. Just know that if i had the opportunity, yes i would also run the Miyuki bitch over with a car. I’m just here to settle something that’s been bothering me for a while.

We all know that Miyuki did something irredeemable. That no one can ever forgive her, that she deserves the worse of punishment in hell and then some. HOWEVER. I feel like people are overshadowing how much worse the toilet paper bag that is Kondo when they berate Miyuki and not him. [...] I’m just here to say that she deserves hell’s boiler room, while Kondo deserves satan’s basement. That is all.

I don't think many would disagree with you (as the reactions to your post also imply) on an objective level, but I think the reasons for this perceived difference in treatment lie in the personal relationship to the victim.

Kondo is just a psychopath. There is no need to argue about it, but an implicit understanding about the fact. The author doesn't do anything to make him the least bit relatable or even redeemable. He's a natural disaster and Eiji more or less a randomly chosen victim he didn't have any relationship with.

Miyuki however engaged in some of the worst acts of betrayal humanly imaginable, yet she denies responsibility and still thinks she's a good person who can apologize and everything will just blow over.

 

[SomeBoredGuy]

a proper, helpful adult? in my manga? no way, i can't believe it

Oh this story is full of present and useful adult characters.

It's actually refreshing....and it gets really good.

 

[mhalelaiwi]

This is genuinely a controversial opinion and i expect a lot of people to completely disagree with what i will say next. Just know that if i had the opportunity, yes i would also run the Miyuki bitch over with a car. I’m just here to settle something that’s been bothering me for a while.

We all know that Miyuki did something irredeemable. That no one can ever forgive her, that she deserves the worse of punishment in hell and then some. HOWEVER. I feel like people are overshadowing how much worse the toilet paper bag that is Kondo when they berate Miyuki and not him. By technicality (not in actuality), Miyuki is at least partially justified. She was manipulated by that psychopath into the situation that we are now. She was practically forced into a relationship with Kondo in the first place too. And out of all the bitc characters in this story, shes basically the only one who shows at least some sort of remorse. Normal people can chalk it up to a lapse in teenage judgement, and unlike the genuine bastard that is Kondo, Miyuki at least partially has a heart. So it bothers me that people chew the fuck out of Miyuki more than they do out of Kondo. Extremely controversial opinion, i know. But i also know that Miyukis actions are not justified at all, it’s just that most of us might be able to somewhat sympathise with her because we’ve all made a mistake similar to this situation in out lives, just obviously not as severe (i hope)

And with that, i’ll never say a good thing about the bitch again. There were many times when I sympathised with her as i read this manga and the light novel, because she is by technicality also a victim in this situation, but her actions were never justified, and never right.Whats worse is that she knows shes wrong, yet STILL CONTINUES TO DIG HER GRAVE DEEPER FOR NO REASON. She had 500 different opportunities to confess earlier and be at least partially forgiven for her actions, but NOPE! Continues to cling to Kondo like the hoe she is. I’m just here to say that she deserves hell’s boiler room, while Kondo deserves satan’s basement. That is all.

I don't agree with you. I know what you're trying to get across. You're saying, in short, that both Kendo and Miyuki are wrong without exception, but Kendo should bear the greater blame because he's trash who wants to ruin the lives of the others. As for Muyuki, she's a victim of his own stupidity, and she knows she's wrong, but she persisted in his stupidity despite knowing that his action was wrong. Look, I'm not justifying Kendo's actions, but it's clear that Miyuki is the one who deserves the greater blame. Kendo is an arrogant trash who doesn't care about the others, but Miyuki is a selfish girl who only cares about herself. The difference between Kendo and Miyuki's actions is that Miyuki's actions are considered "betrayal" of the person she's supposed to love. There's no worse action than this.



She betrayed him because she thinks that her lover is good and will be forgiven, blah blah blah. This is proof that she cares about herself more than her lover. If you love someone, you should prioritize your thoughts, feelings, and actions on the person you love over yourself. This is the meaning of true love. But thinking, "It's okay, this person loves me, so he'll forgive me," only a selfish snake would think of that. When pain comes to you from a stranger, you'll adapt and the wounds will heal, but if it comes from someone you love, the pain will be multiplied 100 times. Someone who is trash and doesn't care about anyone else would easily hurt you, but someone who loves you is supposed to think a thousand times. Even if she isn't seduced, she's the type who will open her legs for another man on your honeymoon or at your wedding sooner or later and make up excuses like, "You didn't give me enough attention" or something like that. Honestly, Kendo did MC a favor and saved his night and his first kiss from a snake who would betray him in the future.

Okay so you're saying at least she has some conscience and stuff like that, but think about it, what was that conscience for? It was definitely for herself, she wanted to apologize to fix things not for her boyfriend but to save herself from being labeled a cheater, did she have a chance? She had many chances, not just one! Take it for example, I don't blame her for not denying the rumors, she was in a state of extreme fear and couldn't do anything, she couldn't deny or confirm, and honestly in her situation I don't blame her, the situation is very difficult for a teenager, but she could have stopped it from the beginning, when her hand bruise was photographed she could have expressed her approval to Kendo, even if he threatened to leave her, this was better than ruining MC's life, she couldn't have stayed with Kendo or MC, but she could have avoided ruining MC's life if she had some conscience, even if it meant losing them both, this would at least be some atonement for MC


Well, look, she's no worse than the girl who cheated on the otaku. Tha, I decided, she's no worse than the girl who cheated on the otaku. And that woman was straightforward and wanted to date the guy with the best looks. It's like shopping for the best product, not the best product with specifications. While Miyuki keeps MC a cake to be savored for the rest of his life, while Kendo and other like his are like cakes that will spoil if he doesn't eat it quickly. She is completely dedicated to her desire. She knows MC better than him and he will cares about her and they will have a happy family, so she wants to marry him. But she wants to kiss and have sex with a better-looking man. But to me, the otaku was lucky because the girl's colors were clear in front of him. While MC would have continued dating Miyuki without knowing anything about her actions. She is not easy to seduce. There is nothing easy to register in seduction, especially if you are dating a man you like and you don’t have first experience in kissing or sex, so it is assumed that it is difficult for her to share her first experience with someone she just met. But she gave it to him easily in the first days of communicating with him. Didn't she think of MC while walking to the hotel? Maybe she thought, but asked herself, do you want to miss the opportunity to have first experience with a handsome man? It seems that the equation is excellent to have your first experience with a handsome man and marry a loyal person who provides for you. The matter has nothing to do with ease of seduction or not, but rather with personal gains. she was not threatened, blackmailed, or deceived. Rather, she saw the appearance and admired it more and nothing less.


Look at Ai. Kendo tried to seduce her and failed, even though she didn't have a lover or anyone she cared about yet, but she has something called "brain." Not only does she have a brain, but she also has something called common sense. It is not reasonable for her to date someone just because he speaks well and looks a little better. Imagine a handsome man walking by her and saying, "Hey, beautiful girl, let's go on a date." Only a person who doesn't have a brain would agree. In short, they're both trash, but Miyuki is worse. I mean, come on, your childhood friend who you've been with for over 10 years—you're betraying her and opening your legs for another man you've only known for a few days? Not only that, but she asks herself, "Is it okay to have only one man in my life?" This is a whore's mindset, not a victim's. Why the hell did she wait 10 years? I'm talking 10 years, not days! Are 10 years worth 3 days with Kendo? This means she's cheap and wants to drag MC down with her. I imagine when they go to different universities, she'll spread her legs for 10 different men, maybe have group sex with 6 men, come to her boyfriend on vacation and say, "I missed you and I was lonely," blah blah, or she may put a sleeping pill in his drink and have sex with MC's coworker Beside him. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up sending her videos of herself having sex with MC's bully, mocking him and demanding a divorce. Honestly, after thinking about it, Kendo should be considered a hero for saving MC from a horrible fate. If I were MC, I would be grateful to him for the rest of my life for saving me from that snake.



I take back what I said at the beginning. I justify Kendo's actions; he's a hero who saves people from cheap girls.

 

[pushpakg]

This bitch

 

[McGayveR80]

I present you a 14 year old song... Just fits the last scene, just like how Kondo fits it into her.

 

[Xnagos]

This is genuinely a controversial opinion and i expect a lot of people to completely disagree with what i will say next. Just know that if i had the opportunity, yes i would also run the Miyuki bitch over with a car. I’m just here to settle something that’s been bothering me for a while.

We all know that Miyuki did something irredeemable. That no one can ever forgive her, that she deserves the worse of punishment in hell and then some. HOWEVER. I feel like people are overshadowing how much worse the toilet paper bag that is Kondo when they berate Miyuki and not him. By technicality (not in actuality), Miyuki is at least partially justified. She was manipulated by that psychopath into the situation that we are now. She was practically forced into a relationship with Kondo in the first place too. And out of all the bitc characters in this story, shes basically the only one who shows at least some sort of remorse. Normal people can chalk it up to a lapse in teenage judgement, and unlike the genuine bastard that is Kondo, Miyuki at least partially has a heart. So it bothers me that people chew the fuck out of Miyuki more than they do out of Kondo. Extremely controversial opinion, i know. But i also know that Miyukis actions are not justified at all, it’s just that most of us might be able to somewhat sympathise with her because we’ve all made a mistake similar to this situation in out lives, just obviously not as severe (i hope)

And with that, i’ll never say a good thing about the bitch again. There were many times when I sympathised with her as i read this manga and the light novel, because she is by technicality also a victim in this situation, but her actions were never justified, and never right.Whats worse is that she knows shes wrong, yet STILL CONTINUES TO DIG HER GRAVE DEEPER FOR NO REASON. She had 500 different opportunities to confess earlier and be at least partially forgiven for her actions, but NOPE! Continues to cling to Kondo like the hoe she is. I’m just here to say that she deserves hell’s boiler room, while Kondo deserves satan’s basement. That is all.

People probably aren't talking about Kondo much because he's obviously an evil bastard and knows it himself but Miyuki doesn't fully accept her responsibility for her actions at this point in time. It's not as upsetting when a evil character does something terrible compared to a character that does something bad but doesn't believe it was their fault and blames circumstances and outside factors.

 

[SouperWy]

Seeing an actual adult and a homie being on the MC’s side is peak. THE GOATS

 

[Dirmo]

here is one thing i clearly understand, though i understand why people hate that girl

Ai perfect smile really has to be protected & satoshi is MC best friend after king endou and in the last panel we see bitch clown miyuki show up

Thank you for translating

Spoiler: Small Spoiler

best part upcoming later:

Eiji mom actually already knew long before Eiji caught Miyuki cheating on him. She saw Miyuki holding hands with another guy. Eiji mom was disappointed and said Miyuki isn’t worthy of Eiji, telling her to never approach him again. Heartbroken, Miyuki went home and didn’t know what to do. as an escape, she called Kondo. yup, she called Kondo over when her mom wasn’t home and asked him to make her forget all the bitter feelings she’d been through sex.

Ai and Eiji started showing up to school together a lot, which made the bad gossip about Eiji on SNS and the nasty talk from classmates die down. Everyone was shocked seeing the number-one girl in school walking with the guy everyone hates. Ai class friends even asked why she with Eiji, knowing all the bad rumors. Ai fired back, asking if they’d seen it themselves. She doesn’t believe in those rumors because when she’s with Eiji, he never been the type to hurt a woman

well thanks you for the insite, now i can no longer recover from reading this... thanks you ones again...

 

[IronMace1990]

Dugh, that miyuki-bitch cheated on Eiji, spread false rumor of him to make his life hell and afterwards drove Eiji to commit suicide and now she wants to apologize.... what a clown 🤡
If you wanna apologize then tell everyone in the school what you did. though it doesn't matter cause the other classmates are also shit

TBH, half of the school (students, teachers and admin) should be expelled or get fired due to the bullying incident

 

[IronMace1990]

Lastest WN chapter is released.

Spoiler

I wanna see Tachibana on trial, she will has very hard time since all her possibly escape routes are blocked by her lawyer lol. It will be much more fun if Yumi, Kazuki and Eri are present too.

As I predict Miyuki's fate will be the last.

Hopefully when her verdict will get down, that's the day when Eiji receives the literature award and become its youngest recipient

 

[Dirmo]

People probably aren't talking about Kondo much because he's obviously an evil bastard and knows it himself but Miyuki doesn't fully accept her responsibility for her actions at this point in time. It's not as upsetting when a evil character does something terrible compared to a character that does something bad but doesn't believe it was their fault and blames circumstances and outside factors.

i also feel the same way, to be honest... do I don't like what she did... she's just a normal girl, what do you expect? i know first hand what's it like to me manipulated like that... though the intended effect was different, the methods all the same.

 

[Dirmo]

I am not saying/doing this because i forgive Miyuki, I'm doing this to see second hand what it's like to be in her shoes

I'ma go to my bed and just sit like... imagine her situation, i wanna sympathies

 

[Heika]

Go home, whore

 

[KurABOBA]

I don't agree with you. I know what you're trying to get across. You're saying, in short, that both Kendo and Miyuki are wrong without exception, but Kendo should bear the greater blame because he's trash who wants to ruin the lives of the others. As for Muyuki, she's a victim of his own stupidity, and she knows she's wrong, but she persisted in his stupidity despite knowing that his action was wrong. Look, I'm not justifying Kendo's actions, but it's clear that Miyuki is the one who deserves the greater blame. Kendo is an arrogant trash who doesn't care about the others, but Miyuki is a selfish girl who only cares about herself. The difference between Kendo and Miyuki's actions is that Miyuki's actions are considered "betrayal" of the person she's supposed to love. There's no worse action than this.



She betrayed him because she thinks that her lover is good and will be forgiven, blah blah blah. This is proof that she cares about herself more than her lover. If you love someone, you should prioritize your thoughts, feelings, and actions on the person you love over yourself. This is the meaning of true love. But thinking, "It's okay, this person loves me, so he'll forgive me," only a selfish snake would think of that. When pain comes to you from a stranger, you'll adapt and the wounds will heal, but if it comes from someone you love, the pain will be multiplied 100 times. Someone who is trash and doesn't care about anyone else would easily hurt you, but someone who loves you is supposed to think a thousand times. Even if she isn't seduced, she's the type who will open her legs for another man on your honeymoon or at your wedding sooner or later and make up excuses like, "You didn't give me enough attention" or something like that. Honestly, Kendo did MC a favor and saved his night and his first kiss from a snake who would betray him in the future.

Okay so you're saying at least she has some conscience and stuff like that, but think about it, what was that conscience for? It was definitely for herself, she wanted to apologize to fix things not for her boyfriend but to save herself from being labeled a cheater, did she have a chance? She had many chances, not just one! Take it for example, I don't blame her for not denying the rumors, she was in a state of extreme fear and couldn't do anything, she couldn't deny or confirm, and honestly in her situation I don't blame her, the situation is very difficult for a teenager, but she could have stopped it from the beginning, when her hand bruise was photographed she could have expressed her approval to Kendo, even if he threatened to leave her, this was better than ruining MC's life, she couldn't have stayed with Kendo or MC, but she could have avoided ruining MC's life if she had some conscience, even if it meant losing them both, this would at least be some atonement for MC


Well, look, she's no worse than the girl who cheated on the otaku. Tha, I decided, she's no worse than the girl who cheated on the otaku. And that woman was straightforward and wanted to date the guy with the best looks. It's like shopping for the best product, not the best product with specifications. While Miyuki keeps MC a cake to be savored for the rest of his life, while Kendo and other like his are like cakes that will spoil if he doesn't eat it quickly. She is completely dedicated to her desire. She knows MC better than him and he will cares about her and they will have a happy family, so she wants to marry him. But she wants to kiss and have sex with a better-looking man. But to me, the otaku was lucky because the girl's colors were clear in front of him. While MC would have continued dating Miyuki without knowing anything about her actions. She is not easy to seduce. There is nothing easy to register in seduction, especially if you are dating a man you like and you don’t have first experience in kissing or sex, so it is assumed that it is difficult for her to share her first experience with someone she just met. But she gave it to him easily in the first days of communicating with him. Didn't she think of MC while walking to the hotel? Maybe she thought, but asked herself, do you want to miss the opportunity to have first experience with a handsome man? It seems that the equation is excellent to have your first experience with a handsome man and marry a loyal person who provides for you. The matter has nothing to do with ease of seduction or not, but rather with personal gains. she was not threatened, blackmailed, or deceived. Rather, she saw the appearance and admired it more and nothing less.


Look at Ai. Kendo tried to seduce her and failed, even though she didn't have a lover or anyone she cared about yet, but she has something called "brain." Not only does she have a brain, but she also has something called common sense. It is not reasonable for her to date someone just because he speaks well and looks a little better. Imagine a handsome man walking by her and saying, "Hey, beautiful girl, let's go on a date." Only a person who doesn't have a brain would agree. In short, they're both trash, but Miyuki is worse. I mean, come on, your childhood friend who you've been with for over 10 years—you're betraying her and opening your legs for another man you've only known for a few days? Not only that, but she asks herself, "Is it okay to have only one man in my life?" This is a whore's mindset, not a victim's. Why the hell did she wait 10 years? I'm talking 10 years, not days! Are 10 years worth 3 days with Kendo? This means she's cheap and wants to drag MC down with her. I imagine when they go to different universities, she'll spread her legs for 10 different men, maybe have group sex with 6 men, come to her boyfriend on vacation and say, "I missed you and I was lonely," blah blah, or she may put a sleeping pill in his drink and have sex with MC's coworker Beside him. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up sending her videos of herself having sex with MC's bully, mocking him and demanding a divorce. Honestly, after thinking about it, Kendo should be considered a hero for saving MC from a horrible fate. If I were MC, I would be grateful to him for the rest of my life for saving me from that snake.



I take back what I said at the beginning. I justify Kendo's actions; he's a hero who saves people from cheap girls.

I feel like i’m obligated to respond because of how much effort you put into your message as well as all the others before this.

Honest to god, i was naive. I completely forgot that the betrayal of a loved one was way more sickening than a scumbag being a scumbag. My justification is that in reading the LN and WN, the author put so much emphasis on how much of a psychotic bastard Kondo was and how muchc Miyuki regret her actions, even if it was for her own sake and not Eiji’s, that it felt like Kondo was a mistake and Miyuki was the victim. Which now that i think about it, was probably the reason for why they keep bringing Miyuki back to piss off the readers. Part of me somewhat sympathised with her because ive made a similar mistake that, while not betrayal or breaking up with someone (ive never had a gf in my life), was bad enough that i felt like i couldn’t atone with my whole life. I felt that all her actions could (in theory) be explained, not justified, by teenage naiveté, and to psychological reasons due to Kondo basically having her on a leash and the fear of facing the consequences.

A lot of people said she wasnt “forced” into the relationship, which is true because she willingly accepted the leash wound around her neck. But if you think about it, if she were never introduced to Kondo in the first place, it might not have happened. Though i’ll also acknowledge the argument that she is still a bitch who only cares about herself and will probably cheat later down the line even if it isnt Kondo who led her astray. Of course, because she didnt have a brain and a sense of conscience until after Eiji almost killed himself.

But i honestly didnt factor betrayal into the equation because the way the author frames Miyuki, it felt like she was the victim, so much so that i intuitively forgot that her true crime was betrayal of a loved one and it cannot be atoned for. I’m not trying to defend her at all, ive already quit doing that ages ago. But because i somewhat sympathised with her, i also wanted her to fix herself and turn over a new leaf. It seems completely impossible at this point, because she’s been abandoned by everyone, she’s literally starving herself to death, she cant even find release in death because Ai stops her by saying it would hurt Eiji even more. She did something completely inhumane, sure, but does her remorse mean that she should get a second chance at life? I’m sure most people would say no, and i’m also starting to agree that it isnt.

Literaly think about it, what can Miyuki do to atone for her actions? Of course suicide, as much as readers want to happen, is not true atonement because Eiji will feel responsible, and obviously she not atoning for shit. Apologising is long off the table. Turning over a new leaf? She’s already shred her reputation to bits and has no one to help her, so would it help her in any way? Turning herself in and accepting punishment? Honestly probably the best option, and the reason why the author kept her for so damn long. But it doesnt feel like true redemption. So genuinely, it might just be impossible to redeem Miyuki.

I’m very bad at contemplating these kinds of moral issues and questions, but i don’t think that a legitimate death sentence will be given to Miyuki for cheating, even if the crime of driving someone else to suicide is put on top. And because the author wouldnt kill off someone like Miyuki because “cute girl redeems herself one day” and whatnot. (Author, i’m tired of waiting 250+ chapters JUST for Miyuki to actually do something in her life, and even that is mainly for her own sake, not others.) Still, i understand that she is genuinely a piece of shit that everyone wants gone, or just dead. Or just continue living to live in eternal hell of regret. I now see her crime as far worse than Kondo’s, which means that we should (mentally, because why would it happen in the story) kill the two with fire then nuke them two just be sure.

Kondo being a hero for being a hoe magnet and saving other people from bitches is a fire perspective. Please don’t stop cooking.

(I have no idea if i’m even making sense in this message because god did i have a lot to yap about. TLDR, i was wrong. Betrayal makes Miyuki a lot worse than Kondo, although both deserve hell. I somewhat sympathised with Miyuki, but i no longer think theres a way to redeem herself.)

 

[GIN_8_6_]

TBH, half of the school (students, teachers and admin) should be expelled or get fired due to the bullying incident

Yeah, agreed
But sad this wouldn't happen
I call forth goblin slayer to switch his job to classmate slayer and slaughter every classmate of Eiji except Ai and Satoshi

 

[IronMace1990]

Yeah, agreed
But sad this wouldn't happen
I call forth goblin slayer to switch his job to classmate slayer and slaughter every classmate of Eiji except Ai and Satoshi

Kondo already sentenced. God hopefully his jailmates are also his former football teammates that got expelled due to his (Kondo's) actions.

Next is the mastermind, Tachibana, getting her comeuppance. It was all due to her envy, envy to other people's talents, that made her downfall. Even tried to deceive the police