no offense, but the tl groups that add in "plz gib munnies" that total out to a third of the pages straight should drop the tl'ing work if that's how bad they "need" donations. To begin with, by definition donations are not required to continue the job, either by the one doing said job, or by the donator, so the word "need" in not being used correctly, and if a manual translator foesn't know that, they aren't a very good linguist,, if you could even call them one at all.