Ohitorisama ni wa Naremashita no de. Konyakusha Houchi-chuu! - Vol. 1 Ch. 5.5 - Extra Chapter - Where It All Began

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I’m gonna be honest I kinda laughed when he was just like “So this is a girl? First time meeting one” it’s just such a “thing you say in front of your female friend who’s one-of-the-guys” thing.

That said you’re telling me bro has ALWAYS been this shit at interacting with his fiancée? Like shit he’s been neglectful from day one!
 
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...So, he is not ending with her right?... look at it from her point of view, not even a single time has he shown any care to her, nothing, none... not even empty pleasantries. But she has to be OK with that, i know it happens IRL all the time but that is why we read this type of thing... well i guess the author is a thrill seeker.

At this point is not even funny anymore... being forever alone looks like a better ending for her at this point... i wouldn´t let this guy be the head of anything, he can barely manage to be a grunt... no maids, no mother, sister... no one to correct the behavior.

I want MC´s parents to know, this poor excuse of a man´s parents to know, the enemies of those parents to know... because the guy must learn through shame and then loose either way.
 
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Ah yeah, He still didn't deserve her even know about his past. Honestly I hope MC can get better fiance or go single, but since single woman in middle age it's filled to hardship better searched good man for her.
 
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:questionblob: what, this guy never saw a "girl" before?
he's the son of high nobility, surely there's more than a few maids working for them...
I think he meant it in a metaphorical sense. The maids at his house were probably background noise, which is a sentiment most nobility share about the servants, and up till that point he was so entrenched in his little world of “boys only” that he probably never registered other girls his age until he met Nicole. He may have never had to attend a tea party before, since it’s historically a ladies’ party.

In other words he was extremely ignorant, but not unrealistically so. I know at least a few boys in my life who were surrounded by guys all the time and never interacted with a girl until their friends started dating and they realized they needed one too to fit in. 😮‍💨
 
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...So, he is not ending with her right?... look at it from her point of view, not even a single time has he shown any care to her, nothing, none... not even empty pleasantries. But she has to be OK with that, i know it happens IRL all the time but that is why we read this type of thing... well i guess the author is a thrill seeker.

At this point is not even funny anymore... being forever alone looks like a better ending for her at this point... i wouldn´t let this guy be the head of anything, he can barely manage to be a grunt... no maids, no mother, sister... no one to correct the behavior.

I want MC´s parents to know, this poor excuse of a man´s parents to know, the enemies of those parents to know... because the guy must learn through shame and then loose either way.
The ending is quite open. They don't break up, but now they are stuck in a position where he still demands Nicole to not go out without him and her who blatantly ignore him.
From Nicole POV, she isn't against giving him a chance, but she doesn't trust him to not reverse back to his old way.
It's basically him who chase after her.
 
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...So, he is not ending with her right?... look at it from her point of view, not even a single time has he shown any care to her, nothing, none... not even empty pleasantries. But she has to be OK with that, i know it happens IRL all the time but that is why we read this type of thing... well i guess the author is a thrill seeker.

At this point is not even funny anymore... being forever alone looks like a better ending for her at this point... i wouldn´t let this guy be the head of anything, he can barely manage to be a grunt... no maids, no mother, sister... no one to correct the behavior.

I want MC´s parents to know, this poor excuse of a man´s parents to know, the enemies of those parents to know... because the guy must learn through shame and then loose either way.
I've read plenty of romance stories with characters like Kaios in them - distant fiances who don't make any attempt to connect with or understand their partners for years, who are overly preoccupied with how their social standing is being impacted by their partner's growing disinterest rather than actually trying to bridge the gulf that's formed between them, and react to this loss of control by yelling and insisting that their neglected fiancee simply stop expressing their autonomy and do what they're told. Except, these other Kaios-like characters are never the male lead - they're the useless former fiance who gets dumped at the beginning of the series, while the female lead goes on to marry a much more attractive alternative.

I can only think of one story where the Kaios-type character actually makes it work, and it's only after dozens of chapters of dedicated introspection, growth, and reconciliation. I don't see that happening for Kaios, lmao.
 
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That's a rather good idea. Yes! That's a good idea! Protect Nicole at all cost!
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lmao

It's fine that he was a dumb kid who didn't know how to handle girls. That's more on his parents who've failed to educate him properly on the matter.

But he's still a little dipshit who hasn't grown at all since then.
 
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I've read plenty of romance stories with characters like Kaios in them - distant fiances who don't make any attempt to connect with or understand their partners for years, who are overly preoccupied with how their social standing is being impacted by their partner's growing disinterest rather than actually trying to bridge the gulf that's formed between them, and react to this loss of control by yelling and insisting that their neglected fiancee simply stop expressing their autonomy and do what they're told. Except, these other Kaios-like characters are never the male lead - they're the useless former fiance who gets dumped at the beginning of the series, while the female lead goes on to marry a much more attractive alternative.

I can only think of one story where the Kaios-type character actually makes it work, and it's only after dozens of chapters of dedicated introspection, growth, and reconciliation. I don't see that happening for Kaios, lmao.
I agree, years of disinterest is solved with a few dates. It takes action and dedication without anger to win someone back.
Curious Which one made it work
 
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I agree, years of disinterest is solved with a few dates. It takes action and dedication without anger to win someone back.
Curious Which one made it work
It's a bit of a spoiler, maybe, but it's impossible to recommend otherwise, so:

It's a manwha called Wished You Were Dead, available on Webtoon. It starts out as a fairly typical fantasy romance about a spurned noblewoman with a bitter, cheating spouse, and her efforts to break free from the path that's been set for her, and take control of her own life.

What's remarkable about it, is that it spends the first two acts resolving the exterior conflicts surrounding its main characters, and then devotes the final full third of the story to the slow, messy process of showing how they recover from all the trauma and resentment that's been forced upon them, long after the evil has been vanquished. It's a bit maudlin and melodramatic at times, but it takes all of the pain and suffering the main characters go through very seriously, and takes great care to show the complicated parts of surviving trauma that other stories tend to skip over. It impressed me a lot.
 

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