Ookami no Musume - Vol. 1 Ch. 1

[MangaDex]

 

[BCS]

Yo B, this is Twilight

 

[Rozzak]

Manga pitch : “Kindan no Koi uh.. but like with a tomboy JK”
Me: neurons activating

 

[Sadrobot]

The wolf children but mom was actually a shifter too.

 

[Eighty-six]

Manga pitch : “Kindan no Koi uh.. but like with a tomboy JK”
Me: neurons activating

Just because she has short hair and does sports doesn't mean she's a tomboy...

 

[Rozzak]

Just because she has short hair and does sports doesn't mean she's a tomboy...

Uh 🤔 hh

 

[Eighty-six]

Uh 🤔 hh

All kinds of women go to the gym and do sports. Tomboyishness is something deeper than that.

 

[imhungryn0w]

Like I knew he was gonna be a wolf bro but my mind was like:
Okay, his hitting on her
Now his picking a fight "Who do you think you are"
Now he's a fluffy godboy.

 

[imhungryn0w]

All kinds of women go to the gym and do sports. Tomboyishness is something deeper than that.

She's stoic, is the ace of an athletics team and has a short cut without playing the manic pixie vibe. Do you need TOMBOY tattooed across her always exposed abs or some bullshit? She's a tomboy. They come in flavors. Gym bunnies are a type of tomboy too mate fyi.

 

[Eighty-six]

She's stoic, is the ace of an athletics team and has a short cut without playing the manic pixie vibe. Do you need TOMBOY tattooed across her always exposed abs or some bullshit?

I said that tomboyishness is "deeper" than going to the gym and doing sports, and you somehow think that I'm alluding to additional superficial features like exposed abs? I'm surprised you didn't run the whole fetish gamut on me.

You're concerned about an aesthetic-- I'm alluding to an actual tomboyish mindset, which is about pursuing personal interests with disregard (naive or otherwise) to standard female social conventions. That's what it boils down to, across time and space.

Plenty of women of all kinds have short hair. All kinds of women do sports, and we have an entire category of "women's sports" on the national and even international levels-- not all of those women are going to be able to be considered de facto tomboys. All kinds of women go to the gym, all for different reasons that don't necessarily have to do personal interest or anything downstream from that.

All this on its own isn't tomboyishness, even if you wanted to suppose that "tomboyishness" was only "girl does boy things", and even if you ignored the difference in female social conventions between cultures, because the aforementioned aren't strictly "boy" things in any of our contexts.

They could be aspects of a tomboy, but they aren't what delineates one-- what would delineate one is the cause for those aspects. This character could be tomboyish, but it won't be just because she does track and has short hair. You can't say "tomboys come in flavors" and not recognize that.

 

[imhungryn0w]

I said that tomboyishness is "deeper" than going to the gym and doing sports, and you somehow think that I'm alluding to additional superficial features like exposed abs? I'm surprised you didn't run the whole fetish gamut on me.

You're concerned about an aesthetic-- I'm alluding to an actual tomboyish mindset, which is about pursuing personal interests with disregard (naive or otherwise) to standard female social conventions. That's what it boils down to, across time and space.

Plenty of women of all kinds have short hair. All kinds of women do sports, and we have an entire category of "women's sports" on the national and even international levels-- not all of those women are going to be able to be considered de facto tomboys. All kinds of women go to the gym, all for different reasons that don't necessarily have to do personal interest or anything downstream from that.

All this on its own isn't tomboyishness, even if you wanted to suppose that "tomboyishness" was only "girl does boy things", and even if you ignored the difference in female social conventions between cultures, because the aforementioned aren't strictly "boy" things in any of our contexts.

They could be aspects of a tomboy, but they aren't what delineates one-- what would delineate one is the cause for those aspects. This character could be tomboyish, but it won't be just because she does track and has short hair. You can't say "tomboys come in flavors" and not recognize that.

You've fucking lost it. First off, tomboy much like goth, hippy and geek are all aesthetic in nature. That in and of itself is only denied by retards like yourself who seem to think everything is based in psycho-analytical depths of consciousness. It's not that deep.

Furthering the notion, all aesthetics can be blended as no human is truly monotone in personality and aesthetic, no matter how much one insists that they are. I personally know friends who are aesthetically hippy tomboys, metalhead tomboys, preppy tomboys, milf tomboys, goth tomboys, punk tomboys and more. It comes from growing up in an environment where you have no choice but to be athletic. Growing up in the foothills of mountains does that. Shit, my mum rocks the tradie tomboy look. I can spot a tomboy on sight because I grew up in a house full of them in a community saturated with them

Tomboy isn't what it was in the 90s because only prejudice retards keep the idea of gendered activities. It changed to being the aesthetic of the girls who were tomboys in that era. Much like any aesthetic it can be blended into or come in an apparently distilled form.

She, by both her appearance and her personality revealed in what's been translated so far, is a fucking tomboy.
You, from your obviously shitty takes are brain damaged. I mean c'mon, your quote here just refers to any woman not religiously repressed. It has fucking little to do with being a tomboy.

I'm alluding to an actual tomboyish mindset, which is about pursuing personal interests with disregard

Think fuckwit, think. A business lady who dresses up stylish and does her makeup on point, takes no shit and owns herself is still not a tomboy if she's got no interest in athletics, is a weeb and goes drinking each weekend. You've no clue what you're on about so I'll not be replying back from here on out.

 

[Eighty-six]

You've fucking lost it. First off, tomboy much like goth, hippy and geek are all aesthetic in nature.

Tomboy isn't what it was in the 90s because only prejudice retards keep the idea of gendered activities.

What are you even reading when I say:

Plenty of women of all kinds have short hair. All kinds of women do sports, and we have an entire category of "women's sports" on the national and even international levels-- not all of those women are going to be able to be considered de facto tomboys. All kinds of women go to the gym, all for different reasons that don't necessarily have to do personal interest or anything downstream from that.

Firstly, there are feminine and masculine norms, because men and women invariably have their own sex-based subcultures and expectations based on being male or female and accordingly having different sensitivities, strengths, weaknesses, aptitudes, et cetera. Suggesting anything else is egregiously naïve at best-- in the first place, you have to assume men and women think the same and have the same priorities, and you may have to learn the hard way that that isn't the case if you don't already know.

This isn't about "this isn't the 90s anymore", and it's not about "religious suppression" (Joan of Arc could be considered tomboyish given what she did and the context in which she did it, after all)-- gender roles and norms have always been in some kind of flux across societies for way longer than the 1990s.

My entire point is that because what constitutes "male" or "female" activities changes throughout the ages and is even different between societies, and because the base idea of the "tomboy" exists across a broader swath of cultures even if it may be applied for different reasons depending on the culture, you cannot anchor "tomboyishness" to specific attributes like you continue to do despite falsely criticizing me for doing the same. A woman can be extremely into lizards-- that's not necessarily a male inclination, but it definitely has nothing to do with the social standards that women in this era and society have formed for themselves, so such a woman could be considered tomboyish. A woman can be really into going to the gym because they legitimately want to build muscle in order to be strong-- because it has nothing to do with the social standards that women of this era and society have formed for themselves (women aren't generally interested in being supremely muscular), she can also be considered a tomboy. Across cultures that have this concept of "tomboy", there's consistently this minor or major sense of "outcast" or "not fitting in" underlying their conception of the idea.

If you live in a society where women have to bulk up in order to perform duties typically ascribed to their being women (or merely those ascribed to people that live there in general), then that they're appropriately bulked up doesn't make them tomboyish-- if only in that society's context, which is what matters because the crux of tomboyishness is about deviation from whatever the local feminine norm is. That's why people are called "tomboys" at all.

"I know all of these tomboys"-- why do you call them "tomboys"? You assert that "tomboy" is entirely an aesthetic:

First off, tomboy much like goth, hippy and geek are all aesthetic in nature.

but then immediately argue that the tomboys you know are tomboys because they had to be athletic just to traverse the environment they're in. Not even you can deny that it's more than mere aesthetic.

No, it's not that you know how to recognize a tomboy because you've been around a bunch-- it's that you have an inherited preconception of what tomboys are, applied that to that bunch, figured they fit, and then figured that you must know a lot of tomboys. Your rationale is circular, your means of categorization inflexible, and your perspective narrow. And you engage in circular arguments again:

Think fuckwit, think. A business lady who dresses up stylish and does her makeup on point, takes no shit and owns herself is still not a tomboy if she's got no interest in athletics, is a weeb and goes drinking each weekend.

You're just insisting that I see things the way you do despite the fact that you have no working argument. It's as if you lack theory of mind and you never argued yourself into your position. Did you seriously think that calling me "brain damaged" and a "fuckwit" was going to make me magically agree with you, as if I didn't think through what I'm now extensively arguing? Like, based on what I've said, of course I'm going to call who you described as being "tomboyish" or even merely having some tomboyish streak inasmuch as she does any of those things while disregarding conformity to what women find acceptable or what society as a whole finds acceptable for women. Yes, there's in fact an easy overlap between "geek" and "tomboy".

There's an actual established history of, and value to, tomboyishness-- not only in the disposition itself, but in the disposition as a developmental phase for growing women. Growing women have lived this. It's been a topic of entire studies and books. You don't have the right to boil all that out and incorrectly reduce it to some shallow consumerist aesthetic, lining them up with other shallow consumerist aesthetics.

 

[Luke_chase]

She got that DAWG in her

 

[Luke_chase]

Lmao not gonna read the tomboy argument, but I’m definitely taking a vid of it and sending it to someone

 

[welcome2atlantis]

Ooh... fluffies...

 

[ghostkun]

Anyway, I like tomboys.

 

[CommonTruth]

Oh I like this first chapter, let me just check out the comments and see what people are saying--