Ore dake Fuguu Skill no Isekai Shoukan Hangyakuki - Saijaku Skill 'Kyuushuu' ga Subete o Nomikomu made - Ch. 21 - Negotiations

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I feel like Nakatani & Co really messed up here. If you don't get notified that a contingent of officials from the empire are there until they're that close, just imagine if it was an actual fighting force.
 
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These last 2 chapters make no sense, why after trying to kill Nakatani so many times would you attempt to bring him back or in the least cease-fire. Also why does the king keep making the unhinged class president leader when he's clearly unfit.
 
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These last 2 chapters make no sense, why after trying to kill Nakatani so many times would you attempt to bring him back or in the least cease-fire. Also why does the king keep making the unhinged class president leader when he's clearly unfit.
Of course, many of these isekai stories originate in the fantasies of people who were marginalized and unhappy in some real-world context. The world of the isekai becomes that context writ large in which the real-world fantasy is expressed as the story, and is often consequently implausible.

So the ministers here should be seen as school officials; the king as the principal. An unhappy high-school student doesn't naturally imagine becoming the principal (though an unhappy office worker might imagine becoming a CEO), but can imagine the principal and other school officials trying to negotiate with him.

Miyamoto hasn't been swiftly eliminated because the author wants everyone everyone everyone to agree that the class president and all his talk of supposed selfishness is stupid stupid stupid. The reader is being beaten over the head with that message.

Yeah, it's pitiful.
 
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These last 2 chapters make no sense, why after trying to kill Nakatani so many times would you attempt to bring him back or in the least cease-fire. Also why does the king keep making the unhinged class president leader when he's clearly unfit.
put bluntly, because that's the way it's supposed to work. Negotiations are what you do when you realize you can't get what you want through sheer force or authority. That's why whenever there's talk about forcing another country to the negotiating table in a story, they start by building up their military. They thought they had the upper hand but failed so now they're open to talks since he's proven a threat.

As for why they keep making him the hero, it benefits the kingdom for him to be the leader, though not the students. He's vain and easily manipulated by flattery. He also has the most typical hero skill and has the strongest powers of the remaining group even if there are more skilled fighters, so he's good for their public image. He's a bad leader but a good puppet. He may not be able to maximize the strength and safety of their group but, with him in the lead, the kingdom has a strong grip on where that strength is directed. It's like what was happening on the oldman newbie adventurer recently. Like the school there, this setup isn't meant to maximize their abilities but to instead reinforce status and hierarchy.
 
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I feel like Nakatani & Co really messed up here. If you don't get notified that a contingent of officials from the empire are there until they're that close, just imagine if it was an actual fighting force.
Dude's so busy planning washing machines that he forgot all about securing the borders.

To be honest, planning to build their town so close to the human empire's capital seems like a really bad idea. It's understandable it's the ancestral land for the demons and they wouldn't want to leave it, but their numbers seem really low and much of it is children and others who would only be a burden in a battle. Unless they make Nakatani destroy the human empire, they should relocate to a place where they can defend themselves and where it would be simply far more inconvenient for the human empire to keep harassing them. Assuming that whole world isn't the size of Ireland, or something, making it impossible to get far enough away.
 
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These last 2 chapters make no sense, why after trying to kill Nakatani so many times would you attempt to bring him back or in the least cease-fire. Also why does the king keep making the unhinged class president leader when he's clearly unfit.
Expediency. They know they can't get rid of the MC without Losing Face, and serious military loss, if at all.

The class president is a useful fool/tool to keep the Heroes they still have in line, especially since he is one of the "Selfishness" pulpit-pounders.
Remember... "Being Selfish" is a swearword and a heavy accusation in Ideal Japanese Society, which Highschool and Class is supposed to represent. Authority is sacrosanct. Group trumps individual. Putting your own interests before the Group is a violation of Proper Morals. If it goes against Authority as well.... ohboi..
 
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if you do't do as we wish, your reputation among our populace will be lowered
Tell me again, why exactly should it matter to those kids what the people of their abductors think of them? Weren't the kids under the illusion that they could be repatriated after they fulfilled the kidnappers demands? Or was this one of the few stories where they were frank about the summoned kids being stuck there?
Even then, why would their reputation matter enough for them to simply roll over an obey, in that kind of situation?
 

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