Ri-chan - Vol. 1 Ch. 131

[FantasyMaster]

Tbh, this might sound cringe to someone, but bear with me:

(I'm not a very religious person, like...very close to 0, but) When people marry, they take vows

"I, _, take you, _, for my lawful wife/husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part. I will love and honor you all the days of my life."

brides and grooms swear this in front of god (since it's a religious cerimony)....or if one doesn't believe in god, they swear in front of the guests....and even if there are no guests, they swear in front of the one who presides over the cerimony, be them a person of religion or state (for civil marriage). Heck they swear this to themselves and their partner.

Riri's father said in chapter 129

even before the divorce....I realized that my heart belonged to another person

and while feelings can indeed change over time, he took a vow, to do everything to makes sure the love between he and his (ex)wife standed until the day they both died....and the moment he realized that quote and broke his vow, he became a PoS imo
He chose to get married, he chose to take that vow and...yea, he chose to break it
So he fails as a human being. After that, we can add everything else (like the fact he stopped smoking for his new family and not when Riri asked him)

Tbh, Riri's "confusion" is not that confusing:

• he loved his mother and has memories with her, but he doesn't anymore...so it's not a lie, but it is
• he doesn't love his ex anymore, but he loved her enough to marry her and still has memories...so it's a lie, but it isn't
• same thing can be applied to this chapter...biologically, it's her father, but to her, he isn't anymore and even tho she might not consider him her father, he still is

 

[jojoka]

This was what I was worried about such a tired trope in jap comics

 

[Agt2018]

I thought it was established that his ex-wife explicitly told him not to contact her, tho?


He's not a POS. He's a flawed individual in a complex situation without one good guy and one bad guy. The realization I suspect Ri-chan is having is that he is her papa, but isn't. Just like Tatsu is the Tatsu-kun she remembers, but isn't, and she is the Ri-chan he remembers, but isn't.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong but I'm sure at ch 45, the mom said she let the father see Ri-chan, but he didn't.
What I get from reading these bunch of chapters is just the mom didn't tell Ri-chan why they're divorced and why the mom was working so much, she actually let the father contact Ri-chan, but he didn't. Also, the fact he stopped smoking because his new family said so strike me as he don't value Ri-chan, or kinda stopped caring at one point, which make him a POS in my opinion.

 

[Kurshir]

I thought it was established that his ex-wife explicitly told him not to contact her, tho?


He's not a POS. He's a flawed individual in a complex situation without one good guy and one bad guy. The realization I suspect Ri-chan is having is that he is her papa, but isn't. Just like Tatsu is the Tatsu-kun she remembers, but isn't, and she is the Ri-chan he remembers, but isn't.

Don't do Ri-mom like that. Back in chapter 45, she allowed him to meet her but he never did. Again, she said that he is free to visit her, but he didn't. Instead he fucked off with his lover, who, I may suggest, he felt in love with before he divorced her. He is a cheating bastard, and even if you can excuse him for falling in love with someone else while married to Ri-mom, there is no excuse for abandoning Ri for all these years when he KNEW that she looks up to him, that he is one of the two most important figure in her life. Divorcing, sure, that's okay, but abandoning your child, fuck that. And fucking hell, he actually gave up smoking for his new family while he never bothered to do that for Ri, she fucking despised smoking when she was young, and now his gift to her is freaking nicotine addiction spiralled from her depression due to him abandoning her like that.

 

[jackjack9]

It is, but it isn't.
It isn't, but it is.

 

[RiceIST00]

all that build up for the father
just for him to be a horrible person

 

[Oeconomist]

Trust me when I say that “you did x for them, but you didn’t do it for me” is a truly awful fucking feeling.

I have a friend whose father abandoned my friend and his mother. The father would do things for his son by the new wife, but only an insistence by that second son got the same things done for my friend. So all that we really see is the decency of the half-brother, not love for my friend from his father.

 

[gearoi92]

Mhm, that hurts.

 

[eviljackspicer]

I'm going to throw the dad a bone.
He's talking to her as an adult. He's not trying to butter things up because she's his daughter. But at the same time, there's too much time built up between them, all that familiarity is either strained or almost non existent.

 

[bobbybiracial]

Did he pay child support? I forgot. Also the absent parent is the worst parent of the two who could have thought? I think I judged her mom unfairly in the earlier chapters, when all she did was trying her best for her daughter.

 

[Superpeanut]

Tbh, this might sound cringe to someone, but bear with me:

(I'm not a very religious person, like...very close to 0, but) When people marry, they take vows

brides and grooms swear this in front of god (since it's a religious cerimony)....or if one doesn't believe in god, they swear in front of the guests....and even if there are no guests, they swear in front of the one who presides over the cerimony, be them a person of religion or state (for civil marriage). Heck they swear this to themselves and their partner.

Riri's father said in chapter 129

and while feelings can indeed change over time, he took a vow, to do everything to makes sure the love between he and his (ex)wife standed until the day they both died....and the moment he realized that quote and broke his vow, he became a PoS imo
He chose to get married, he chose to take that vow and...yea, he chose to break it
So he fails as a human being. After that, we can add everything else (like the fact he stopped smoking for his new family and not when Riri asked him)

Tbh, Riri's "confusion" is not that confusing:

• he loved his mother and has memories with her, but he doesn't anymore...so it's not a lie, but it is
• he doesn't love his ex anymore, but he loved her enough to marry her and still has memories...so it's a lie, but it isn't
• same thing can be applied to this chapter...biologically, it's her father, but to her, he isn't anymore and even tho she might not consider him her father, he still is

There’s been a long-running discussion in Christian circles about the current state of marriage because of stuff like this, and how international culture has changed.

As a Christian, I have fairly specific views on marriage, but almost 100% of those views are, well, religious. Within traditional Christian understanding, marriage is basically a bond between two people, vowed before God, specifically to symbolize the bond Christians are supposed to have with God. That’s why in traditional church culture, divorce is a no-no since you’re not just breaking a contract with another human, but a contract with literally the God who made all of life 🤣

So… for non-Christians… all of that is stuff that doesn’t come into the equation, understandably. So the question is brought up fairly often about trying to push the Government and wider culture to stop worrying about trying to have a traditional Christian system in place. Just let there be a more popularly used non-religious marriage. No reason, functionally, to need a religious ceremony.

I think a lot of it comes from older traditions, which is fine. But it is interesting to think about sometimes. As a Christian, I do enjoy seeing aspects of my life like traditional marriage services still floating around in movies and popular culture, but there’s an argument to be made from both sides of the aisle about making a clean split and defining the goals of each clearer.

 

[Mangamoz]

Tbh, this might sound cringe to someone, but bear with me:

(I'm not a very religious person, like...very close to 0, but) When people marry, they take vows

brides and grooms swear this in front of god (since it's a religious cerimony)....or if one doesn't believe in god, they swear in front of the guests....and even if there are no guests, they swear in front of the one who presides over the cerimony, be them a person of religion or state (for civil marriage). Heck they swear this to themselves and their partner.

Riri's father said in chapter 129

and while feelings can indeed change over time, he took a vow, to do everything to makes sure the love between he and his (ex)wife standed until the day they both died....and the moment he realized that quote and broke his vow, he became a PoS imo
He chose to get married, he chose to take that vow and...yea, he chose to break it
So he fails as a human being. After that, we can add everything else (like the fact he stopped smoking for his new family and not when Riri asked him)

Tbh, Riri's "confusion" is not that confusing:

• he loved his mother and has memories with her, but he doesn't anymore...so it's not a lie, but it is
• he doesn't love his ex anymore, but he loved her enough to marry her and still has memories...so it's a lie, but it isn't
• same thing can be applied to this chapter...biologically, it's her father, but to her, he isn't anymore and even tho she might not consider him her father, he still is

They are japanese, they don't have wide spread belief in abrahamic religions like in the west.

 

[Oured]

I'm guessing he smoked because of the family stress, and only stopped smoking for his new family's sake, probably because he was happier with them. Riri did tell him to stop multiple times, but he didn't. What's more, he's the reason why she started smoking. Looking back, every chapter he's in shows that Riri loves him, but he never outright says that he loves her back. What he did do was leave a pack of cigs and a lighter next to their family photo when he left.
The mother's reclusiveness and inaction also didn't help since she always left Riri to her devices and never bothered to stop her from smoking and drinking.

 

[ninjacookie]

I dunno man, it's a long overdue catch up conversation between the both of them.

But given how the father interact with her with a very indifferent attitude, i dont want them to ever meet up again. Hope she moves on properly from this and just let him be.

If i were her, i would be very fucking mad tbh.

Edit: I just gone back and read chapter 45 onwards. The father was an actual cunt tbh holyshit.

U Dont visit her even though u offered a chance to do so, she started smoking because of you, all u do is abandoned her for and start a new life.

Honestly disgusting.

 

[Whitehalo127]

So I can't fully say that the dad is an asshole or anything as I don't have the information leading to the divorce. I am seeing a lot of cheating comments here and there but that hasn't been established. I do believe it is implied that he fell for someone while he was with his wife but that does not constitute cheating, as far as I know. With this all said, the dad is without a doubt a pretty flawed individual and crappy overall as his inability to communicate his feelings openly has led to a lot of things being unsaid.

Reread Chapter 129; the conversation might give credence to the idea that he cheated as it almost seems to imply that he had another family before the divorce. If this is in fact true, then nah this guy an asshole.

 

[fettyman]

I dunno man, it's a long overdue catch up conversation between the both of them.

But given how the father interact with her with a very indifferent attitude, i dont want them to ever meet up again. Hope she moves on properly from this and just let him be.

If i were her, i would be very fucking mad tbh.

Edit: I just gone back and read chapter 45 onwards. The father was an actual cunt tbh holyshit.

U Dont visit her even though u offered a chance to do so, she started smoking because of you, all u do is abandoned her for and start a new life.

Honestly disgusting.

The author said in his notes that Riri is angry with him (panel 2 is her wanting to leave and panel 3 is her being very curt due to anger). She's broken up over the fact that he would do something (quit smoking) for his new family, but not for her.

 

[ninjacookie]

I feel so sad for her. 💔

The author said in his notes that Riri is angry with him (panel 2 is her wanting to leave and panel 3 is her being very curt due to anger). She's broken up over the fact that he would do something (quit smoking) for his new family, but not for her.

 

[AbyssalOne]

My dad told me once that even after the divorce, getting remarried, and that me and my siblings have moved out to live our own lives, he'd sometimes call my mom (who also had been remarried, but divorced again, and is still single today) to see how things are going. From what little I've heard of why they separated in the first place (and with how differing their sides of the stories were to the point that I couldn't keep up with it to remember), I can't even fathom why they'd still keep in touch to this day. Maybe it's because compared to how they were before the divorce, they've become totally different people to where they wouldn't be recognizable. Maybe that was what Ri-chan was struggling with in her inner conflict with the following quote.

Putting aside the different appearance from aging, though she knows that man is her father, he's become totally unrecognizable to her. He isn't the same man who she remembered him by when growing up, to the point that she couldn't even tell him about her new boyfriend with confidence. She may not hate him, but he's pretty much lost his privileges to be part of her life as a father now, especially when he has a new family to look after now. I don't think she'll want to meet with him again after that, at least that's what this exchange said to me.

Yeah this is a good analysis

 

[FantasyMaster]

They are japanese, they don't have wide spread belief in abrahamic religions like in the west.

While I did assumed they had a catholic wedding, nowadays is "cool" to have a more western wedding. Some young couples choose that over a traditional one.
But I think I failed in highlighting the focus: what I wanted to say is, it doesn't matter what "type" of wedding you have, when you get married you choose to spend your life with that person...even if there's divorce (for a civil thing more than religious), if you, at any point, feel like that you don't love them anymore, imo, there's something wrong...like, why did you marry? But that's just me

 

[eviljackspicer]

Did he pay child support? I forgot. Also the absent parent is the worst parent of the two who could have thought? I think I judged her mom unfairly in the earlier chapters, when all she did was trying her best for her daughter.

He did. He stated he would in an earlier chapter.