Ryuu to Ayumu Nariagari Boukensha-dou - Vol. 5 Ch. 25 - Savior

[CheesiBoye]

The cynical in me: She's the author's agent, she's there to pad the story needlessly.

But the rationale in me: We don't know enough about the characters to say, we can see that the guildmaster knows more than us about the hero-girl.
Like, imagine if she stopped going on high-danger quests, because of the MC?

But either way, the real problem is that the author shows us decisions we cannot understand, so we can only be angry with them. Only now, did the author imply why the guildmaster is intervening: Hero-girl is not herself when it comes to the MC, and it's a problem.
That should've been revealed way earlier.

Honestly feel more like a problem with how they write character's. Everyone is one dimensional, like they don't have a life outside of interacting with the mcs or doing actions in reaction to something they did or have done towards the mcs. Like i tried thinking about the 'make her independent/realize how much she cared for him angle' but it made me realize just how everyone in this group has nothing outside of how they relate to the namesake pair of the manga. Even the guildmaster, for supposedly running a guild has only ever been seen to discipline the one party member who didn't need it, and dueling the main pair. She has no other traits of being in a managerial position other than strong, big sword, and good design, other than that most everyone is a nothing burger

 

[Dosky]

Why does the guild master complain that she's not being herself, while also withholding the information that would bring her back to normal?

 

[Morose]

Why does the guild master complain that she's not being herself, while also not telling her the information that would bring her back?

Probably because she doesn't understand herself that her power and performance is being affected by MC not being there.

This could be dangerous during battle, as one might overestimate their own abilities, because they lack the awareness that they are mentally not focused which affects their strength.

Guildmaster probably wants her to understand her faults before giving the solution.

 

[hurafloyd]

GM is, hopefully, giving Yuki a lesson, to “clear her own head”. that is the reason why she sent her to do that subjective punishment like cleaning a house. Besides, since GM (I think? Cant remember now precisely if all details were told to her) knows what happened to Dion, she then let Yuki know about Segrit being in danger that is more like, “go clean up after yourself after cleaning up yourself” Kind of thing.

Btw, how the fuck did the GM find out that they were in danger?

 

[KuroViLolitannia]

Finally Sung Jin-Woo gonna appears to fight with his shadow soldiers.

A R I S E

 

[Ninoren]

Nah man..

Fuck this girl and the guildmaster, genuinely feeling sorry for Dion 🤨

She just went and saved the people who almost killed her friend and the guidmaster made her do it, hope they'll eventually get what should come their way and Dion gets at least some form of revenge on them, then again Yuki is just as much guilty as her party is, considering she just let them do whatever they want, which resulted in what they did.

Also really hating the Guildmaster here, considering Dion told her everything, so she's not oblivious what transpired.

 

[tseng]

Anyone know where's the rest of chaps come from? What's the latest chap?

If only you looked a few comments before yours, you would have your answer

 

[XNFEdayo]

Nah man..

Fuck this girl and the guildmaster, genuinely feeling sorry for Dion 🤨

She just went and saved the people who almost killed her friend and the guidmaster made her do it, hope they'll eventually get what should come their way and Dion gets at least some form of revenge on them, then again Yuki is just as much guilty as her party is, considering she just let them do whatever they want, which resulted in what they did.

Also really hating the Guildmaster here, considering Dion told her everything, so she's not oblivious what transpired.

I'm sorry but I don't have the single bit of feels for Dion. Remember, this idiot of an MC was almost murdered by those ass holes and then just decided it's best to leave his childhood friend with them. Think about that. Yuki is completely unaware about what they did but Dion (the victim) knows, yet left her to them.

So far the dragon wife is the only character with redeeming qualities. That whole party, MC included, are a bunch of shitty people.

 

[monkey123]

The reunion has to be postponed for plot's sake.

The answer to all of those questions is simple, she’s an a*shole meddler that like to be in everyone’s business. She probably thinks everyone is her personal “toy” to play with……in my opinion at least. Characters like her infuriate me so much cause they be annoying.

Good good, let the hate flow through you!

 

[Jakeh24]

Guild master is a shitty character, she really adds nothing except pointless drama

 

[Ninoren]

I'm sorry but I don't have the single bit of feels for Dion. Remember, this idiot of an MC was almost murdered by those ass holes and then just decided it's best to leave his childhood friend with them. Think about that. Yuki is completely unaware about what they did but Dion (the victim) knows, yet left her to them.

So far the dragon wife is the only character with redeeming qualities. That whole party, MC included, are a bunch of shitty people.

You say he left her to them, but she's 1. one of the strongest people apparently, 2. he was thrown of a god damn cliff how did you except him to back in the first place, there's also the chance of them just trying to kill him again and they would've tried to spin it against him either way.

Though yeah, he's an asshole for not at least informing her about their character said so earlier already, then again it's not like he has that many means of reaching out to her in person, it's not like he owns a phone, but the guildmaster would've been perfectly capable of informing her, chose not to.

 

[Rafalga]

Spoiler: When they reunite

They reunite at ch.28.2 during this very fight after a long flashback to their childhood. She gets her shit kicked in by this guy so guild master practicely sent her to her death if MC didn't save her.

 

[isoycrazy]

I think the GM also wanted to test Yuki's personality. Three of her party conspired to kill the fourth. Either Yuki was complicit but behind the scenes, or she was ignorant to the hatred and failed at maintaining interparty relationships. If she's the former, then Yuki is a dangerous leader who could execute other party members on whims. If she's the latter, she needs to be made to realize her faults in not better handling her party. Look at her cold atttitude about their possible deaths. She has shown herself to be the ignorant or uncaring about their personal feelings. It's not the best attitude for a leader.

And then to throw a wrench into this, her deep love of Dion makes her act a whole different way. I think the GM wants her to understand herself better, and sometimes you have to be a dick.

 

[Rafalga]

You say he left her to them, but she's 1. one of the strongest people apparently, 2. he was thrown of a god damn cliff how did you except him to back in the first place, there's also the chance of them just trying to kill him again and they would've tried to spin it against him either way.

Though yeah, he's an asshole for not at least informing her about their character said so earlier already, then again it's not like he has that many means of reaching out to her in person, it's not like he owns a phone, but the guildmaster would've been perfectly capable of informing her, chose not to.

MC is a doormat through and through. Not a great written character. Just after leaving the dungeon with dragonwaifu, he said her childhood friend is probably better off being with backstabbers / murderers then with him. That's why he showed no effort trying to reach her or contact her. I'm %100 sure he also won't demand any retribution from the former party as well. He is like an empty shell of a human.

 

[BlackAeronaut]

Okay everyone, slow your roll.

Something that a lot of you seem to be forgetting is that Yuki DOESN'T KNOW that the rest of the party tried to murder Dion. She may suspect that something dirty was done, but she has no idea of what it was and how it was done.

And before anyone gets all disgusted, thinking she's just gonna forgive and forget... I get the sneaking suspicion that she's only rescuing them so she can get the full details out of them and maybe even have them tried for their crimes.

As for the guild master? I think the reason why she's withholding info about Dion from Yuki is because she suspects her as possibly being in on Dion's betrayal. After all, she only has the story from Dion's perspective.

And there's also the fact that she's right about Yuki's state of mind at this moment: Yuki is not in her right mind right now.

The guildmaster isn't being an ass hole. She's being careful and methodical.

In short: she's on a mole hunt.

 

[poppinnow]

Nah man..

Fuck this girl and the guildmaster, genuinely feeling sorry for Dion 🤨

She just went and saved the people who almost killed her friend and the guidmaster made her do it, hope they'll eventually get what should come their way and Dion gets at least some form of revenge on them, then again Yuki is just as much guilty as her party is, considering she just let them do whatever they want, which resulted in what they did.

Also really hating the Guildmaster here, considering Dion told her everything, so she's not oblivious what transpired.

fuck the girl but she doesn't know lmao? she also doesn't seem to have a very high opinion of her teammates either

 

[BlackAeronaut]

fuck the girl but she doesn't know lmao?

She suspects something, but so far she's been getting stonewalled. As I mentioned before, the guildmaster probably wants to make sure Yuki had nothing to do with Dion's betrayal before sharing any info about him. Which is smart, really, when you look at it from the guildmaster's perspective.

She's trying to protect Dion. She only has the story from Dion's perspective. Because of that, she doesn't know whether or not Yuki was in on the betrayal. She feels it's safer this way because if Yuki was in on it and the Guildmaster told her where to find Dion, then Yuki might try to kill Dion to tie up loose ends.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying that is the case. Just that the guildmaster is trying to play it safe because she feels she doesn't have all the details.

Really, I wish people would stop acting like some of these characters are fucking Gwenpool of all people... (That is, able to see the story from the reader's perspective and thus know exactly what is going on at all times...)

 

[Plasmaghost32]

The raw of this manga is pretty strange. I think they cut the chapter up and then labelled them as full chapter instead of .1 and .2.

Yeah the raw is quite behind

 

[Ninoren]

She suspects something, but so far she's been getting stonewalled. As I mentioned before, the guildmaster probably wants to make sure Yuki had nothing to do with Dion's betrayal before sharing any info about him. Which is smart, really, when you look at it from the guildmaster's perspective.

She's trying to protect Dion. She only has the story from Dion's perspective. Because of that, she doesn't know whether or not Yuki was in on the betrayal. She feels it's safer this way because if Yuki was in on it and the Guildmaster told her where to find Dion, then Yuki might try to kill Dion to tie up loose ends.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying that is the case. Just that the guildmaster is trying to play it safe because she feels she doesn't have all the details.

Really, I wish people would stop acting like some of these characters are fucking Gwenpool of all people... (That is, able to see the story from the reader's perspective and thus know exactly what is going on at all times...)

You say that, but to me it felt more like she's trying to get Yuki away from Dion, in order for her to revert to her "previous" self where she apparently was stronger, than she is now, so you can't just assume she's doing any of this for Dion really

 

[Dranzer86]

Probably because she doesn't understand herself that her power and performance is being affected by MC not being there.

This could be dangerous during battle, as one might overestimate their own abilities, because they lack the awareness that they are mentally not focused which affects their strength.

Guildmaster probably wants her to understand her faults before giving the solution.

Sounds about right