Tensei Kizoku no Isekai Boukenroku ~Jichou wo Shiranai Kamigami no Shito~ - Ch. 58

[InsaneAwesomeTony]

Thanks for the chapter 👍🏼

 

[HayashidaYuki]

Yeah, this chapter is about half as much pages as usual.

 

[Diagus]

Next Boss

 

[Amariithynar]

Sigh, I dunno this is just plain stupid at this point, this dude is so comically evil if the royals weren't absolutely useless due to the author saying so due to "plot" reasons he would've been executed at worst or dropped to lowest possible nobility rank and banished to the border or some shit.
Now he's here just to be "that evil dude which pesters mc" due to plot reasons and getting away with so much it's just beyond dumb and frustrating to the readers. Should've been switched out to another antagonist like 30ch ago imo.

Uunlike a lot of other isekai, they actually are representing the power struggles of the royalty and nobility pretty well here; They know Corgino has done shady shit multiple times over, but they can't just get rid of him without solid evidence linking him that they can use without a shadow of a doubt, because of how it would impact the relations with the other nobles, who could easily take their private armies and rise up against the king since his power base is, aside from Cain, rather weak. Remember how bad Drintor was initially, as well- all because there was not an incorruptible head of state residing locally that had sufficient strength to also withstand assassination attempts upon their life. It was too far away for the king to govern himself, so it fell into drastic disrepair.

The implication here is that taxes aren't based off population, so the tax rate for the citizens is lower when they migrate than staying in a declining territory??? That's retarded.
The territory should end up paying less taxes due to people moving away in droves, not the same amount but expected to pay the same; it isn't even an issue of the lord being an evil dick bad at his job, that's an issue of the greater kingdom as a whole, and specifically represents the King badly.

The tax rate set out by the King and his ministry, should be set so it's like ~15% of the income for each individual in the territory. A large decline in population should result in a similarly proportionally decrease in tax expected to be collected by the government. If 20% of the city leaves to Drintor, taking 30% of the wealth in the city with them, then the tax expected to be paid by the territory should be 20%, if not, 30% less.
My point being that tax shouldn't be the issue for the territory, plenty of other factors would be instead.

You're focusing on the wrong tax rate, here. Drintor has low personal tax rate because of the vast volume of people immigrating, meaning that they can make the King's Tithe through small amounts from each citizen, and then from there, Cain doesn't really have any intention or need to pull more finances out of them because he has the personal power to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants (including strategic-scale projects like the whole castle's exterior being raised with his earth magic easily enough), and thus costs aren't really a thing for him, either, so the tax rate per individual can be kept very low. He's also not part of any faction politics and doesn't need to fete other nobles or otherwise actively compete with them for position or anything, not just because of the former points but also due to his position as fiance to the princess. Corgino on the other hand needs money to do basically anything, because he's just a numpty average mortal nobleman, and he's seeing his absolute income through tax dwindle as people leave for Drintor, same with this sidekick noble who operates the town they're currently in.

 

[chendu]

tanks for the food

 

[Justking14]

The implication here is that taxes aren't based off population, so the tax rate for the citizens is lower when they migrate than staying in a declining territory??? That's retarded.
The territory should end up paying less taxes due to people moving away in droves, not the same amount but expected to pay the same; it isn't even an issue of the lord being an evil dick bad at his job, that's an issue of the greater kingdom as a whole, and specifically represents the King badly.

I think it’s also a question of production. If so many workers are leaving your territory in droves, that’ll cause huge problems in the creation and distribution of products.

if say, his population dropped from 10 to 5 people, he wouldn’t just be making half as much. He’d probably only be making a quarter as important jobs aren’t getting done and things are just going to waste

 

[Wolvenworks]

Oh boy I can’t wait till Corgino fuck up the fuckupening and gives himself a reason to be executed like treason

 

[Justking14]

While I don't sympathize with Courgette I do feel bad for the feudal lords of all the isekai literature where MC builds a city, like even if you have the best intentions there's no competing with someone OP and, understandably, people will always migrate to the best spot if possible, the logic conclusion is a desolated kingdom with a random town full to the brim and consequential peaceful overthrowing of the ruler. . .

MC just needs to go to work building other cities. That’s a great way of supporting your Allies and getting you enemies to owe you a favor.

just building an extended outer wall would save them years.

and besides, the town was always rich as adventurers constantly brought in valuable materials. It was just poorly managed and corrupt. All mc did was route out the corruption and build a wall

 

[sumipe]

bro really have a beef with a kid LMAO

 

[Amariithynar]

MC just needs to go to work building other cities. That’s a great way of supporting your Allies and getting you enemies to owe you a favor.

just building an extended outer wall would save them years.

and besides, the town was always rich as adventurers constantly brought in valuable materials. It was just poorly managed and corrupt. All mc did was route out the corruption and build a wall

It was "rich", in that almost all the money got funnelled into the hands of a very select few, and the average person's life wasn't great. Now, under Cain's judgement, it is truly rich, and the average person's life is great.

bro really have a beef with a kid LMAO

Beef with a noble who is constantly disrupting his plots and schemes and costing him tons of money as well. Age has nothing to do with anything in the cutthroat world of politics, other than to work against someone because they're seen as being too young or too old to be competent.

 

[abos]

Yeah... This time for sure you will be fcked...

 

[savris]

Oh yes, I love looking at Corgino. I love to see him shuffle off the mortal coil.

 

[levyoasu]

still dealing with the same guy i see

 

[hayatekanzaki]

Ah it’s this arc finally…been waiting for this for a long time. Although I hope the manga won’t cop out on what happened in the WN.

 

[Galder]

sure, let someone get away with human trafficking and just fine him cause he's a "noble" lmao
like is there any manga out there without these retarded plots? like does anyone really believe they could get away with just a fraction of the shit they're pulling here? either in the middle ages/renaissance (where this is supposed to be set i guess) or in the present?

 

[AnotherDuck]

I wonder how his plan is going to be exposed or backfire this time.

if the royals weren't absolutely useless due to the author saying so due to "plot" reasons

The implication here is that taxes aren't based off population, so the tax rate for the citizens is lower when they migrate than staying in a declining territory??? That's retarded.

I believe the former explains the latter. It's an "MC does everything" world, where the waifus have complete power over him. That leaves little room for competency outside the MC's family (in the broader sense).

I think it's more about the running cost of the city, but then there's the question on how drintor can have such a low tax rate when they have to manage so many immigrants

Considering how MC can just cheat build things, that removes a lot of the cost of immigrants, but they still need time to settle, find jobs, and start producing value. It's one thing if it's normal immigration, but this seems more like some mass immigration, and those don't come without their share of problems.

All these power fantasy/action SoL series take such a massive nose dive in enjoyment once they tie the MC down and try to make it a political story when the authors are rarely able to write it well.

Yeah, power fantasy, slice of life, and political intrigue aren't three genres that mesh well. You can have two of them, but if you add the third it starts becoming weird unless you're an excellent author. This is not it.

 

[CountryMage]

The implication here is that taxes aren't based off population, so the tax rate for the citizens is lower when they migrate than staying in a declining territory??? That's retarded.
The territory should end up paying less taxes due to people moving away in droves, not the same amount but expected to pay the same; it isn't even an issue of the lord being an evil dick bad at his job, that's an issue of the greater kingdom as a whole, and specifically represents the King badly.

I think they are implying that it's based on the size of the territory, they are trying to squeeze more out of a declining population to make up for the loss, which just drives more people to MC's territory, who can afford to tax less with his booming population.

 

[Doomer]

can't wait to once again see piggy commit a serious crime and suffer no consequences for it.

 

[hayatekanzaki]

Anyone who is curious how this arc goes. Especially with the annoying “evil” noble that’s been harassing Cain. Here are lengthy major spoilers from the WN version.

Reminder this is WN version of events. The manga for some reason has opted to change how Cain acts in the manga in some scenes and even more changes in the anime to make it more friendly. This is a complaint I have about the manga and anime.

Spoiler

This whole arc is centered around how the school trip is supposed to be like a field trip study, meant to show how another country’s academy will conduct their lessons and stuff. As cliches go, an entitled brat tries to whoo Cain’s fiancées, however is rejected. Idiot entitled brat is son of one of the ministers, this idiot tries to get some bad type adventurers to hurt Cain. Cain obviously wins easily, gets helped out by some local adventurers to drag the trash back to the guild.

Cain’s identity as a high ranking noble, and his S rank adventurer status get revealed as idiot entitled brat’s minister father tried to sweep it under the rug. International politics ensue as it’s alluded that it could be taken as a declaration of war. So they hold a fairly straightforward trial where Cain and his kingdom get some monetary compensation, a formal apology, idiot entitled brat gets a delayed sentence for the mines when comes of age and minister father loses his job. There is also a side event where Cain saves a demon girl from being killed at the hands of another S rank adventurer. Much to the dismay of a certain butler, her true identity will spell problems for the very next arc.

However it is not over. Ex-Minister plots revenge, colludes with our idiot “evil” noble and they plan to attack the students on the return trip from both sides. The plot fails with Cain being absurd as usual, easily handling all the enemies on his own.. Cain’s elf fiancée also arrives after she heard about the plot against Cain’s group. The enemies that are captured also include a lackey noble of “evil” noble and the ex-minister.

Cain separates from the students so they can continue back to the kingdom for safety. In order to expedite transportation of all the criminals, Cain uses his teleport spell to make several trips back to their kingdom’s castle. He then reports to the king while his elf fiancée goes off to arrest the “evil” noble. His future fathers-in-laws get really pissed off finding out their daughters were about to get sold off as slaves if Cain wasn’t there. The two plan out their actions against the other country while wanting to arrest said “Evil” noble. “Evil” noble gets “apostle”d and basically destroys his own mansion while keeping everyone at bay until Cain arrives. While our so called bad guy claims he’s now an apostle, which actually causes people to freeze since their main religion thing is to obey apostles when they appear but Cain shoots back that “Evil” apostle is under the Evil God. Although “Evil” apostle thinks he has the upperhand, Cain decapitates him easily as Cain is much much stronger. Evil god talks to Cain which in turn Cain burns the head completely.

The day is saved, Cain returns to the students to escort them back home. Cain gets elevated to his dad’s rank and he is expected to take over now dead “evil” noble’s faction territories. Which is another plot to get Cain to use his vast assets to develop and enrich all that territory in the future to of course enrich the kingdom. Cain and his dad speak as both equals and as father and son about defending the kingdom together. Meanwhile part of the territory he gains also includes some from the other country. Other country basically has to pay restitution in yearly payments and territory in order to avoid war.

 

[92cloud]

thnks for the chapter