Totsugi Okureta Kitsune ga Yome ni Kuru Hanashi - Ch. 90 - So Gods Do Exist?

[sarusa]

Oh yeah I forgot. One of the other things mentioned was that bread doesn't have much nutritional value to a fox. So perhaps Mogami has become a little more human than is maybe good for her... a little more fox in her digestive system and she could eat lots and lots of bread? But maybe it would just go thru her like dairy and be unpleasant. More research is needed. All of you please go get a foxgirl and report back, ok?

Gawd I really wish we could react to posts here with more than one reaction, there are a lot of posts from you guys (including this one) that deserve 💕 AND AND 💡because you people are great.

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So now veering wildly off into the weeds, if you've ever had a pet like dog or cat this is why they're SO damn susceptible to being poisoned by plants. You'd think a dog, which can happily eat [poop] would be fine with eating anything, right? Nope, plants have a whole range of cocktails of poisons they've come up with to prevent themselves from being eaten. Mostly by bugs, but other things too. And sometimes they want you to eat the fruit or nuts, but usually do not want you eating the actual plant. Eat a ripe tomato all you want, avoid tomato leaves and stems.

So pure herbivores have evolved lots of resistance to those poisons. Cows can eat all sorts of things (though some things they don't normally eat remain bad). But pure carnivores, like canines and felines, never evolved any poison resistance at all because most of the time anything they caught and ate wouldn't be poison or they learn to avoid brightly colored frogs. They do eat a few things for medication (dogs eating grass), but they're not eating them for food so don't need a ton.

Humans are omnivores, but we had pure herbivore monkey ancestors who ate any weird plants they could, so we have a ton of resistance left over from that and can eat things like chocolate and onions. Bears have a decent amount of resistance because they're omnivores, but haven't had any recent herbivore ancestors, so it's less than ours. Pigs eat anything so have about the same resistance we do, though things like cyanide can still get them (and us).

Anyhow, foxes are much more omnivorous than dogs or cats are - so they have higher onion resistance, but not total immunity, certainly not near a pig or human. If you think this is interesting, go read Most Delicious Poison: The Story of Nature's Toxins From Spices to Vices which is all about this. Otherwise you just got the YouTube Shorts version but hopefully more accurate.

 

[Kaarme]

Can't they just cancel the curse entirely? That bastard former boss would be "saved" as well, but if he's in trouble concerning the death of a woman anyway, he has plenty of worries and not much of a future even without a curse. Most importantly, since Kogane is not an avenger but actually has a married life ahead of her, one she is very much looking forward to, it's definitely not worth it for her to sacrifice her own wellbeing just to punish some scumbag they will probably never meet again. Just cancel it and be done with it.

 

[sarusa]

Can't they just cancel the curse entirely? That bastard former boss would be "saved" as well, but if he's in trouble concerning the death of a woman anyway, he has plenty of worries and not much of a future even without a curse. Most importantly, since Kogane is not an avenger but actually has a married life ahead of her, one she is very much looking forward to, it's definitely not worth it for her to sacrifice her own wellbeing just to punish some scumbag they will probably never meet again. Just cancel it and be done with it.

Unfortunately (from what Akane said) they can't just cancel it by cutting the bond since that doesn't actually get rid of it. The curse is 'shared' between Kogane and Kanasaka, and since Kogane was the source of the curse maybe he gets all of it or maybe they get 50/50 but there is a definite non-zero chance she gets all of it. Kanasaka being cured wouldn't be the end of the world at this point, but her taking on all of it would be terrible. So since the person working on the talisman will take a while (the transfer option) and it might not be strong enough to take all the curse, they're going for the third option, purification.

Which leads to an interesting question they didn't cover - if she's purified and she still has a curse bond with Kanasaka, is he purified? Sure seems it should ease up a little. I guess we'll see.

 

[Kaarme]

Unfortunately (from what Akane said) they can't just cancel it by cutting the bond since that doesn't actually get rid of it. The curse is 'shared' between Kogane and Kanasaka, and since Kogane was the source of the curse maybe he gets all of it or maybe they get 50/50 but there is a definite non-zero chance she gets all of it. Kanasaka being cured wouldn't be the end of the world at this point, but her taking on all of it would be terrible. So since the person working on the talisman will take a while (the transfer option) and it might not be strong enough to take all the curse, they're going for the third option, purification.

Which leads to an interesting question they didn't cover - if she's purified and she still has a curse bond with Kanasaka, is he purified? Sure seems it should ease up a little. I guess we'll see.

The fact there isn't an option to cancel the curse, that is, smoothly removing the curse effect entirely from both the target and the caster, does reveal the fox spirits are actually quite vengeful. One might offhandedly think it's because they don't take these curses lightly and thus if one uses a curse, they should be damn sure of what they are doing and are committed to it, but that's not actually the case. Nothing suggests the method is extremely esoteric among the fox spirits and that using it would be a process one can't simply pull off in the heat of the moment. Kogane did exactly that. You can't also compare it to a gun, which you can use but never take back the bullet, which might kill someone, because we are talking about magic here with the curse. With magic, casting and cancelling the curse should be 100% comparable, which isn't obviously the case with a gun.

So, the only conclusion I can see is that the mentality among the foxes is that the curse is easy enough to cast, but nobody ever even bothered to think about a safe cancelling method. That seems pretty beastly.

 

[sarusa]

So, the only conclusion I can see is that the mentality among the foxes is that the curse is easy enough to cast, but nobody ever even bothered to think about a safe cancelling method. That seems pretty beastly.

You are definitely NOT supposed to cast them willy nilly, and Akane says they don't normally cast ones this bad. Kogane is just a hothead who cast one with no permission and zero preparation for backlash. Which is why the fox village is not helping her fix it. Her Dad has to be (at first glance) a dick about it because they can't just have every fox running around casting curses without permission first, she's got to be an example. Normally she would have been punished too, but they at least pulled that string because it was self defense. But too extreme. So she doesn't get punished more, but has to bear the backlash.

 

[Kaarme]

You are definitely NOT supposed to cast them willy nilly, and Akane says they don't normally cast ones this bad. Kogane is just a hothead who cast one with no permission and zero preparation for backlash. Which is why the fox village is not helping her fix it. Her Dad has to be (at first glance) a dick about it because they can't just have every fox running around casting curses without permission first, she's got to be an example. Normally she would have been punished too, but they at least pulled that string because it was self defense. But too extreme. So she doesn't get punished more, but has to bear the backlash.

Indeed, but you also aren't supposed to haphazardly use mundane violence either, like punch someone in the face if they rudely "stole" the parking spot you were lining up for. You might shout at them or give them the finger, but that's where it's supposed to stop. However, sometimes it, or similar pesky but ultimately harmless incidents, have led to fistfights or property damage. If the curse can be used pretty much as easily as pulling a gun and shooting at someone, then logic would dictate there'd be extreme interest in developing a cancelling method. Simply because it's forbidden, it doesn't stop it from happening, like we saw. Since cancelling the curse would free also the target from it, it can't be viewed as being biased. Of course it might mentally reduce the threshold of using it, which would be an undesirable effect, but then they could just deal out a punishment. Above all, though, it would help tremendously in a self-defense case like this.

 

[Chuito]

Probably because Zanma-sensei realized 'well damn, if we have a friendly goddess around she can just fix everything and that's boring!'

Lol sensei knows whats up.

Thanks for the extra pages at the end, sometimes i already know the more common stuff but they still add important info plus fun facts. I wish more official sources did that to add context instead of "localizing".

I speculate that since she's still a god she cant just preferentially fix things for people she likes. Itd be really interesting if she does some fancy wise god thing and instead of fixing, helps lead them to learning and doing it themselves. Like a "Im looking out for you cause I care, but its still up to you to fix it".

Looking forward to your future releases! May you never feel burnout lol

 

[Chuito]

Indeed, but you also aren't supposed to haphazardly use mundane violence either, like punch someone in the face if they rudely "stole" the parking spot you were lining up for. You might shout at them or give them the finger, but that's where it's supposed to stop. However, sometimes it, or similar pesky but ultimately harmless incidents, have led to fistfights or property damage. If the curse can be used pretty much as easily as pulling a gun and shooting at someone, then logic would dictate there'd be extreme interest in developing a cancelling method. Simply because it's forbidden, it doesn't stop it from happening, like we saw. Since cancelling the curse would free also the target from it, it can't be viewed as being biased. Of course it might mentally reduce the threshold of using it, which would be an undesirable effect, but then they could just deal out a punishment. Above all, though, it would help tremendously in a self-defense case like this.

Id guess there are plenty of curse canceling methods that would normally apply and what you said already happens.

Difference here being the curse is just that severe. Granted the dude kinda deserves it, but its still a damn brutal curse she cast on him. Imagine your luck and fortune is so damn low you cant even successfully kill yourself, you just suffer.

Like you said, just because it is forbidden it doesnt stop people from doing it. Similarly murder is forbidden yet people still do it. Im guessing, similar to murder, you cant really undo some severe acts.

 

[Kyuketsuki]

Alliums are the big issue. Onion, garlic, and others are extremely common especially within the last 100 years in cooking from all cuisines. To not be able to eat most of these flavorful dishes and having to do extensive cooking changes. Seriously though that is why you also have to be extremely careful if you share your food with you dogs.

 

[nljm]

Gawd I really wish we could react to posts here with more than one reaction, there are a lot of posts from you guys (including this one) that deserve 💕 AND AND 💡because you people are great.

for real! I said this in a previous chapter forum with the fire emoji as an example

 

[nljm]

Because he just dropped chapter 174 on Pixiv

He's only on 153 on his twitter... to myself
Edit: well i guess not myself as it was a mistake and i was correct

Who knows if this manga will ever be licensed, if I'll ever learn enough Japanese to read it myself, or if I ever would have found it without this scan. Thank you, sarusa (and thumper) for everything you do to bring us this work which has become so dear to us.

I am 99.95% similar to you here

Hopefully it lets him do some fun world-building. We've seen the fox and tanuki villages, and we know other types of yokai exist (spooder lady, the recently disposed of camellia lady). He's been pretty good about not blowing the doors off with a never-ending cast of extras, so some latitude to stretch the universe (and have some fun doing it) seems warranted.

What kind of random spins wheel yokai is Zanma gonna throw at us next?

Time for OL-sama to show her divinity.

OL? What does that mean? Our Lord? Is Mogami Jesus now?

All of you please go get a foxgirl and report back, ok?

We wish...



edit: also, this wont be the last time you see the Big Wall of Replies from me

 

[Jatopian]

OL? What does that mean? Our Lord? Is Mogami Jesus now?

No, Mogami is not Jesus, but Inari is Inari. OL means Office Lady.

Also I just realized I should've written Mugi-chan instead of Mogami in my earlier post. Whoops.

this wont be the last time you see the Big Wall of Replies from me

Walls are valid (and it beats having ten posts in a row).

 

[nljm]

No, Mogami is not Jesus, but Inari is Inari. OL means Office Lady.

ah, thanks for the clarification

 

[sarusa]

He's only on 153 on his twitter... to myself

Oops, my bad, I just checked. I am not reading them as he posts on pixiv (even I don't need spoilers that far ahead), just saving them for later. Looks like that's pixiv numbering which just starts at 1 and goes up no matter up. So what I thought was chapter 174 is 'entry 174 -> chapter 153'. You're actually one ahead on Twitter then.

This also means I have to go through and look for the 20 extras that aren't chapters, because I only know about 5. Edit: Ohhh



The text is basically 'What the hell are humans thinking, going "Oh, this is niiiice"?' I will clean this up a bit and put it in a future chapter as a bonus.

 

[nljm]

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The text is basically 'What the hell are humans thinking, going "Oh, this is niiiice"?' I will clean this up a bit and put it in a future chapter as a bonus.

When i saw this (for the first time while scouring his twitter) i was like
"Damn, did not expect that!"