Tensei Shite High Elf ni Narimashitaga, Slow Life wa 120-nen de Akimashita - Highelf with a Long Life - Vol. 8 Ch. 38

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Really dumb how they went straight to force instead of diplomacy
All they know is "an elf" asked for very specific information the government/military thought well buried, and which they want to keep buried.

Aesir never mentioned he actually was a partner of their source of Special Military Weapons ( a fact entirely plausible with elves..) .
He just asked Inconvenient Questions about ... the local Oppenheimer..

Makes military types really trigger-happy.
 
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And then he has a reason to fight, and they have a reason to get their asses kicked.
You make a good point, also, the legends plus the elf caravan might make it so that they won’t touch the elves in the woods, lest they make an entire country at risk cause of a certain high elf curating natural disasters like it was nothing
 
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Damn, they're dumb.

10/10 military strategy there.
Yeah, normally I'd say it would probably be worth trying to kill him, since he's the only other person who knows how to manufacture those weapons. In this case however, it's nonsensical - the guy has been traveling around the world for who knows how many decades, yet presumably no other country has gotten ahold of the method. That means he is no threat, a least on this matter.
 
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I feel like he's taking those magic tools gonna bite his own asses.

For example, they can track them magic tools and arrived at the elves village. Sparking war between the mages and elves.
Given that entire nations got to great lengths to accomodate the elven caravan and their diplomatic ties to elves, I don't think a bunch of wizards would have the balls to directly mess with them. Unless they thought they could keep it under wraps, but that kind of thinking pretty much disqualifies one to name himself "wizard"...
 
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Not really. They never got the chance to try that cause the guy that knows all our military tech started sprinting directly to the border.

Anyone with half a brain would try to kill him. He didn't make himself known, didn't try to explain himself he just went "Fuck it. I'm leaving!".

Why? No idea. To who? A 3rd party but we have no idea where his final destination is. Any ties to the invading nation? No Idea, he's been alive for way too long for us to have any records of that.

He's an unknown and chaotic variable. If it was me and I was in this war I'd put a bullet in his head if I could.
Unless he was wrong in expecting them to know who he was, this does not make any sense. If they have identified him, then they know he has been touring the world for longer than most of them have been alive. He'd have plenty of opportunity to leak any secrets he might have.
 
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Oh hey, its a guy who knows the underpinnings of all our military technology and helped pioneer the field. Oh shit, he's not a part of our nation....

Yes, that is actually 10/10 military strategy, they just did not expect to pick a fight with a one-man army. They might have thought him a normal elf who clearly ain't much more powerful than humans. Just too bad he's a high elf and can convince the ground under the country's feets to go somewhere else if he was so inclined.
If they know he was the pioneer, then they also know he could already have leaked the technology to all of the world, he's been gone for decades, after all. Since no one else seems to have it still, clearly he hadn't - what's the point of trying to kill him now? If anything, it would be far more sensible, to try to butter him up, after living so long who knows what other goodies he could share with them.
 
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Why would they use diplomacy? A guy they're only fuzzily aware of just showed up and started inquiring about the country's most important strategic military secrets in the middle of a huge war, and you want them to just invite him to sit down and discuss things over tea & biscuits?

See things from their perspective, not ours.
That only makes sense if they don't know who he was, which means he himself has hugely overestimated their intelligence network, since he expects them to know.
 
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Why would they use diplomacy? A guy they're only fuzzily aware of just showed up and started inquiring about the country's most important strategic military secrets in the middle of a huge war, and you want them to just invite him to sit down and discuss things over tea & biscuits?

See things from their perspective, not ours.
Yeah i assumed that if they are keeping a tight lid on information regarding Kaushman theyd know people who are close to him
 
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All they know is "an elf" asked for very specific information the government/military thought well buried, and which they want to keep buried.

Aesir never mentioned he actually was a partner of their source of Special Military Weapons ( a fact entirely plausible with elves..) .
He just asked Inconvenient Questions about ... the local Oppenheimer..

Makes military types really trigger-happy.
I was thinking that such an important person like kaughman would have a background check regarding his family and associates which would lead to the government learning that kaushman developed his magic alongside an elf but i guess either kaushman kept his mouth tight about aesir or their military wasnt able to do a thorough check on kaushmans history
 
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That only makes sense if they don't know who he was, which means he himself has hugely overestimated their intelligence network, since he expects them to know.
He was a random elf who was friends with the guy many decades ago, and at best they have paper records and some hearsay from the guy. He also by his own admission didn't expose quite a few things while he was there. What in the fuck are you expecting, exactly?

Yeah i assumed that if they are keeping a tight lid on information regarding Kaushman theyd know people who are close to him
There's a limit to the amount they could possibly know, that they have even been given the chance to know, none of which includes a reason to initiate diplomacy instead of force. "They were friends" isn't a good reason.
 
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He was a random elf who was friends with the guy many decades ago, and at best they have paper records and some hearsay from the guy. He also by his own admission didn't expose quite a few things while he was there. What in the fuck are you expecting, exactly?
I'm expecting that he himself should be able to better guess how much they know about him than you. Does that sound far fetched?

There's a limit to the amount they could possibly know, that they have even been given the chance to know, none of which includes a reason to initiate diplomacy instead of force. "They were friends" isn't a good reason.
No one even brought up this "reason", dude though I agree it's without a doubt dumb. The point of knowing who (still among the living) was close to him is that they likely have valuable information. Under ordinary circumstances it might be preferable to silence them in order not to risk their monopoly on the weapons, but as you yourself noticed - it's been decades. Meaning, if these people were a threat to said monopoly, every country would already have the same technology. Since that's not the case (othwerise maintaining strict secrecy would be pointless), it means they are no threat. They might, however be worth at least attempting to work with.
 
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What the hell did Kaushman get up to in the last few decades that just ASKING about him gets Aesir put on a hitlist?
Build shit that probably classifies as magical nukes or something considering his backround and it being a military secret.
 
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Damn, they're dumb.

10/10 military strategy there.
I don't think they figured out who Aesir was, beyond "some elf who's clearly not a rando is asking around about the guy who made all our top secret gear in the middle of a war". Like, imagine an idk Spaniard or Turk (ostensibly neutral countries) show up in an American university insistently asking around about Einstein in 1942. You'd send people to spy on him too.
 
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I have to say though, I like how whimsical the story is (following the protagonist's temperament) and how that allows the author to constantly subvert expectations, especially given Aesir's loose relationship with time as mortals measure it. Something you'd expect to be an entire arc in life's story turns out to only last a few days due to circumstances, while something you'd expect to be a fleeting distraction ends up taking a decade easily.
 
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I'm expecting that he himself should be able to better guess how much they know about him than you. Does that sound far fetched?
And he himself said that they wouldn't know enough and would likely come after him, like I said, and they did so.

No one even brought up this "reason", dude though I agree it's without a doubt dumb. The point of knowing who (still among the living) was close to him is that they likely have valuable information. Under ordinary circumstances it might be preferable to silence them in order not to risk their monopoly on the weapons, but as you yourself noticed - it's been decades. Meaning, if these people were a threat to said monopoly, every country would already have the same technology. Since that's not the case (othwerise maintaining strict secrecy would be pointless), it means they are no threat. They might, however be worth at least attempting to work with.
You've not thought this through at all. They probably do know he was a friend of his, so what? How does that stop the possibility that the enemy nation also knows that this was his friend and they asked/bribed him to try and gather information on the magic tool's inventor and other espionage, or something similar?

They have no idea what his true motives for coming and trying to dig up info on the guy are, but it's not worth taking the chance.
 
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Damn the page when he is running and laughing about what Kaufman created is so good and such a mood after that buildup :clap:
 
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Unless he was wrong in expecting them to know who he was, this does not make any sense. If they have identified him, then they know he has been touring the world for longer than most of them have been alive. He'd have plenty of opportunity to leak any secrets he might have.
Why would they know that? This isn't the modern day with instant access to near infinite info and countries sharing info on request. They might have records of him there from him being there and his bro talking about the elf that helped him develop his tools but just knowing his life story is unrealistic.
 
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Unless part of the magic enchanted onto it allows for the string to stay strung and not loose its tension cutting away at any prep needed to be made ahead of time with stringing it before use.
Maybe, but I'm to the point where if I see an incorrect technical detail like this, I assume it's author ignorance rather than implied hand-wavey magic
 

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