Seibetsu Fushou ni Koi wo shimashita. - Vol. 1 Ch. 1 - I fell in love with X-gender

[poba]

"does it hang...?" wouldn't you like to know 😏

 

[notekatha]

As a non-binary person myself, I always get a little worried about if stories will acknowledge that both AFAB and AMAB people can be non-binary. I've seen a lot of people (mostly Tumblr, to no one surprise) treat being NB as "female-lite", but this manga looks like it fully intends to represent the full spectrum of NB identities.

Hot take, but I like "X-Gender" better than "nonbinary". Nonbinary sounds like something a computer would identify as.

As a programmer, I have a pronoun pin that says "binary is for computers". It's my favorite stupid joke to make about gender personally.

 

[NekoiNemo]

Considering he's already in love... What is he trying to achieve there agonising over it?

 

[Razen]

Why this nonsense gender bullshit?
Why not just futanari instead?

 

[Ank]

Nice try NEEEEXT

 

[Mangamoz]

I like these types of series cause it brings out the phobes out from their holes to get banned.

 

[MidnighTea]

I like these types of series cause it brings out the phobes out from their holes to get banned.

Series like this piss them off like nothing else ever does because it blows two massive holes in the lies they repeatedly canvas to intimidate people out of discourse.

1. "There is no intersection between gender transgressive works (i.e. genderswap, femboi/crossdressing, etc.) and transgender interests. All gender subversive works exist to get me off and have no further use or artistic purpose beyond that"

2. "The transgender brain disease hasn't reached Japan! They're pure and shame us foreigners who are losing control of our culture" (see my earlier post in this thread about why this particular nugget is easily proven wrong even without the existence of manga like this one)

 

[onionskins]

Guys, hear me out...

Spoiler

There are only two genders

 

[Shita-kiri_Suzume]

Guys, hear me out...

Consider this...

Spoiler

You have only two braincells.

 

[onionskins]

Consider this...

Spoiler

You have only two braincells.

Well...

Spoiler

It's better than changing genders every week.

 

[Shita-kiri_Suzume]

Well...

If you want an audience for your bullshit, try Twitter.

 

[MidnighTea]

Well...

Spoiler

It's better than changing genders every week.

Ranma 1/2's success back in the day says otherwise. So does Onimai's marketing.

Don't impose your imagination-related skill issues on the world because clearly the market disagrees. Changing genders is lit.

 

[Robinisback]

Quite rude of him to ask them such a personal question just after meeting. Hope its not indicative of what to come from this mangaView attachment 18840.

I honestly think that was meant to show his curiosity towards something he is experiencing first time in his life, it has been clearly shown that he hasn't come across anything like this before, for him, his environment has always revolved around men and women, so for him, it might not be weird to ask such a question because the other party will obviously answer from one of the two options (Male or female) but in this case, he simply isn't aware neither he is sure about what it is supposed to be, so he simply just asks it directly as he hopes for a general direct answer, he isn't aware of how personal it can be,

it's something like how Chinese kids act after seeing a black man first time in their life. (Here are some videos, They aren't racist, they are simply curious about it, their questions don't carry any malice towards the other party and I think that's exactly what the author wanted to show, it's merely curiosity about the unknown.
Then again, these are my thoughts and I might be too much optimistic with my views.

 

[MidnighTea]

Robin is right. You shouldn't ever assume the protagonist is always necessarily speaking for the author's own perspective. That'd make creating a protagonist with an arc extremely hard to do. And yeah, I got the same vibe -- he's being confronted with things he's never considered before and he's being unintentionally insensitive. We all start that way, frankly. Just that children get more leeway than older people do to make those fumbles.

 

[fujoyoshi]

Series like this piss them off like nothing else ever does because it blows two massive holes in the lies they repeatedly canvas to intimidate people out of discourse.

1. "There is no intersection between gender transgressive works (i.e. genderswap, femboi/crossdressing, etc.) and transgender interests. All gender subversive works exist to get me off and have no further use or artistic purpose beyond that"

2. "The transgender brain disease hasn't reached Japan! They're pure and shame us foreigners who are losing control of our culture" (see my earlier post in this thread about why this particular nugget is easily proven wrong even without the existence of manga like this one)

You see it on every series that mentions a specific LGBTQ related term instead of a fetish one, Funny they would open this one with X-Gender literally in the title.
Im glad we are passed the period of time when Otokonoko manga was as popular as it was and we can now get stuff like this instead of "I fell in love with a femboy" for the 100th time

 

[blahblahbleh]

X, formerly Twitter

 

[Ksyon]

That whole "Which indeed?" bit reminded me so much of one of my favorite scenes from a story I read recently (and have been looking for an excuse to plug, so if you like this excerpt and want to read more stuff with an "X-gender" leading character, go check out that link):

Drippy massages her eyebrows. “So, then...wait. What did you start with?”

This question catches [Aster] fully off guard: it’s the rudest of the night by a nautical mile. “C’mon, don’t make fun of me...!”

“I’m not making fun of you, though?” Her face is innocent.

Their own expression softens. “Isn’t it...obvious?”

“Uh, not really.” She shakes her head vehemently.

“Kind of not at all, yeah, now that I think of it,” says Sandy. “You’re really splitting this thing down the middle.”

“I mean,” Drippy continues, “I kinda figured you were, like...you know...but then...but if it’s like that, then maybe...is it the other way around...?” She’s gesticulating like someone trying to tie their index finger into a knot.

Aster touches their lips. They’re curling. They’re curling into a silly grin, all on their own.

“Look,” says Sandy, “I’ve never been one to quibble over the fine print. Did I think you were a girl-shaped boything? Sure. Did I think you were a boy-shaped girlthing? Also yes. And so basically, the point is, you know, let’s party. Q.E.D., baby. You feel me?”

Awestruck, Aster says, “You don’t know.”

They say it again, just because they can. “You don’t...know.”

“Well, what is it?” Drippy insists.

But Aster brushes her off.

They prop their head up in their hands, smiling like the most satisfied fucker in the whole world, and they say: “Golly — at this point, even I can’t remember what I started with. Isn’t that just crazy?”

“And there’s the trick,” echoes Selené’s voice, and a proud little golf clap emanates from the kitchen.

 

[onedumninja]

Guys, hear me out...

Spoiler

There are only two genders

Hear me out...

You're a close-minded jerk

 

[Thrembs]

X-gender as a term has been around in Japan since at least the 1990's, first catching on in the Kansai region.

Well, X-gender is a specific subtype. There are more terms there. I don't remember them, because I had no opportunity to learn more with certainty in accuracy.
I do remember a short web manga in which there were two people using different terminology because... they wanted to, because good for them 😁

If you think this is brand new and that Japan has been "sullied" by gender politics, you're either too young to know better or you were deluded into thinking Japan was a monolithic conservative paradise and just got a harsh overdue wake-up call.

Why are there so many weebs who think like that? It's more progressive than the USA! Laws need to catch up, but the generational divide on things is SHARP.

While we're at it, maybe we could discuss classic o***a culture?

😬 Me don't likely that word.

Or visual kei pop stars? (and how one named Mana helped popularize gothic lolita fashion)

I ran a Mana webring for a minute right around when people stopped using webring.

.... nah, let's stay on topic.

Hot take, but I like "X-Gender" better than "nonbinary". Nonbinary sounds like something a computer would identify as. X-Gender just inherently sounds badass, as almost anything starting with "X" does. It also doesn't center the concept of binary gender identity as something one has to be considered an exception from.

Well, he says he's a mix of the two ends of the spectrum so this is kind of... not... relevant to this manga.
No big deal, but yeah.

Also, this kinda sounds gender abolitionist, and I'm not with that, so moving on.

If the manga is this informed about the whole concept I'm going to show a lot more hope for it than others in this thread.

This manga rules.

In fact, I'll even bet the protagonist is the one who winds up exploring his gender identity a bit more. Sometimes all it takes is seeing someone live their personal truth to make you realize examining your sense of self was even an option.

Spoiler

He's just a dude. I actually like that he's just the most basic of basic guys.
"You don't need to be anything but happy in your relationship to be queer" is a nice message

 

[Thrembs]

Japan is cool using physical indicators,
compared to the West using ideological indicators.

and yes LGBT and xgender completely different

there is cute x gender, such as Luca in kanata no astra
or mangaka Watase yuu

Spoiler: twit

He says he's trans.
Not many chapters on.

Assigned something at birth, transitioned to another. That's what "trans" means.

Nitwit.