Ougon no Keikenchi - Ch. 14

Joined
Dec 13, 2020
Messages
12
npc respawning is kind of boring, i mean mc has a infinite army she doesn't have to worry about losing a soldier the respawn should at least cost something like in overlord that requires tons of money

In the wn it touch a bit on this skill having a limit on how many npc you can have and i think mc kinda find a loophole with having her underling also use this skill so most of the army thecnicaly belong to mc underling
 
Joined
Apr 29, 2025
Messages
3
I don't know, but would the last one be leah's sister? (Idk I'm only keeping up with the Novel Updates so I'm at like ch 221, but that would be my educated guess)
If so what chapter in the novel would Chapter 14 be? i wanna read the novel but don't wanna read the start
Yes im a lazy bum
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Jun 29, 2024
Messages
101
If so what chapter in the novel would Chapter 14 be? i wanna read the novel but don't wanna read the start
Yes im a lazy bum
Chapter 2 of Volume 2.


Why is this annoying loser suddenly acting like the MC?
We need some perspective from the unwashed masses. Wayne is a 'nobody' but every social game ends up with a clique of famous people even if they're dog shit at the game.


In the wn it touch a bit on this skill having a limit on how many npc you can have and i think mc kinda find a loophole with having her underling also use this skill so most of the army thecnicaly belong to mc underling
The retainer system places a burden on the person receiving the pledges, so there's a "natural" limitation on how many retainers a person can have. Assuming of course they meet the requirements to be able to have retainers, which is usually a species or innate born trait. Leah is a special case as she's gained the retainer skill via the skill tree (plus she's an elf ... errr ... of elven heritage; which predisposes people to think better of simp for her) and yeah, she has retainers who have retainers of their own. Plus any burden on her was just hand waved and dismissed. Then again, kings have several companies of knights as their retainers, not to mention lesser nobles with their personal retinue so the limits would be rather high, but not high enough to be indiscriminate with it.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Nov 8, 2023
Messages
79
If so what chapter in the novel would Chapter 14 be? i wanna read the novel but don't wanna read the start
Yes im a lazy bum
Chapter 14 of the manga is about chapter 86 of the web novel... I do kind of suggest going through it though since leading up to this point also covers the shenanigans of other characters. But up to you, who am I to bar one from being lazy?
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Sep 26, 2023
Messages
278
In the wn it touch a bit on this skill having a limit on how many npc you can have and i think mc kinda find a loophole with having her underling also use this skill so most of the army thecnicaly belong to mc underling
The retainer system places a burden on the person receiving the pledges, so there's a "natural" limitation on how many retainers a person can have. Assuming of course they meet the requirements to be able to have retainers, which is usually a species or innate born trait. Leah is a special case as she's gained the retainer skill via the skill tree (plus she's an elf ... errr ... of elven heritage; which predisposes people to think better of simp for her) and yeah, she has retainers who have retainers of their own. Plus any burden on her was just hand waved and dismissed. Then again, kings have several companies of knights as their retainers, not to mention lesser nobles with their personal retinue so the limits would be rather high, but not high enough to be indiscriminate with it.
Adding to this, which potentially spoilers
It turns out there are multiple variants of retainer skill depending on your species, and each variant has its own drawbacks. For example, a Noble Human (1 level above Human) version of retainer skill can only use it on targets within the Human evolution line, and each usage costs HP. Another example is vampire's version, which can only be use on undeads and selected few animals (bats, wolves, rats)

Rare's version is the superior version that can be use on any species but it was hidden in convoluted set of prerequisite skills and cost a lot of exp just to get it.
By the way, when she reincarnated to High Elf, the High Elf's version of the skill got overwritten by the superior version Rare already has. A comment from a future NPC implied elf's version has even stricter limitations, hence usually they don't have many retainers.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Jan 10, 2023
Messages
1,229
I hope the Demon Queen descends on the final battlefield of this VERY short VERY one-sided war.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Jan 10, 2023
Messages
1,229
npc respawning is kind of boring, i mean mc has a infinite army she doesn't have to worry about losing a soldier the respawn should at least cost something like in overlord that requires tons of money
Only NPCs who are retainers can respawn, the rest are dead for good. Not sure the ants or wasps respawn, but the ant queen is the one producing them, so they can die easily with no issue.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
May 25, 2018
Messages
593
how could ya'll remember the arch angel but not the arch demon? Sure the guy's identity is mixed with a dragon but he has a lot more screen time than the 2 fodders and even fought in the tournament arc.
no seriously i cant remember this arc demon guy, that fish dude indeed fodder but his dead so anticlimactic end up being in my memory lol, as for insect king i only remember its in new island that different from Vampire Queen place other than that i forgot
 
MD@Home
Joined
Jul 14, 2020
Messages
155
My question is why other players are so weak when there are many early players?
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Jun 29, 2024
Messages
101
My question is why other players are so weak when there are many early players?

This is a MMO where levelling isn't done and dusted in 20 hours and where info is precious and mechanics aren't immediately understood and disseminated.

Plus, thanks to a useful idiot, a chunk of the playerbase are being exploited by Leah in her managed dungeon, barely getting positive exp per hour while being ecstatic 'finding' failed trash items from ants grinding out crafting exp.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Sep 26, 2023
Messages
278
Plus, thanks to a useful idiot, a chunk of the playerbase are being exploited by Leah in her managed dungeon, barely getting positive exp per hour while being ecstatic 'finding' failed trash items from ants grinding out crafting exp.
And because of the dungeon "gimmick" and the ants that appear in there being relatively weak, many considered it as a beginner's dungeon. That meant most of the players in the town when it was invaded are low(ish) level players.
 
MD@Home
Joined
Jul 14, 2020
Messages
155
This is a MMO where levelling isn't done and dusted in 20 hours and where info is precious and mechanics aren't immediately understood and disseminated.

Plus, thanks to a useful idiot, a chunk of the playerbase are being exploited by Leah in her managed dungeon, barely getting positive exp per hour while being ecstatic 'finding' failed trash items from ants grinding out crafting exp.
And because of the dungeon "gimmick" and the ants that appear in there being relatively weak, many considered it as a beginner's dungeon. That meant most of the players in the town when it was invaded are low(ish) level players.
Yes but I just find it hard to believe that she's the only one who decided to start in the Demon world. Also, there are other "calamities", meaning there are probably other worlds, but not one player started there? I mean I'm fine with her being this OP, I'm just trying to imagine it in a real game lol
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Jun 29, 2024
Messages
101
Yes but I just find it hard to believe that she's the only one who decided to start in the Demon world. Also, there are other "calamities", meaning there are probably other worlds, but not one player started there? I mean I'm fine with her being this OP, I'm just trying to imagine it in a real game lol
To be completely fair, Leah had the god's luck on her side.
She rolled an elf, min/maxed her starting traits to give as much bonus points as reasonable, spawned in a cave with nascent unique mini-bosses who could be charmed into simping for her, got silent take downs on all of them without needing to spend any points on her stats/skills, tried treating non-player characters as you know, living beings on a whim, got the offer to make said cat girl mini bosses her minions and then managed to blind pick the correct combination of loosely related skills that allowed her access to the retainer system.

Most other "normals" who start off in the monster realms are locked into a brutal survival of the fittest scenario so they have to go through the intended growth path, which is to say, spend every exp you get to scrape together an advantage to not dying. Stockpiling exp to experiment with moon shots is as much of a dream as any civilisation's hopes to better themselves when under the thumb of a calamity.
It also appears that most normies don't really think about stockpiling exp or going for moon shot divergent builds, because you're in a use-it-or-lose-it situation. If you don't spend the exp you get, when, and that is a when, you die, you lose it just as readily as the exp you've spent on making yourself stronger that could have prevented you from dying in the first place. Like with money, it's expensive being poor.

We'll be introduced to a character named Blanc who started off as a skeleton + monster realms and had an absolute horrid time at the beginning because that is actual a nightmare mode start vs the easy mode of a fair humanoid + civilisation start. Plus, you'll see in the "background", monster race players participating in the event being clearly more intelligant raiders blending in with the NPC assaults on towns and settlements. Given the increased EXP rewards and zero penalties for dying, those monster race players are desperate to take advantage of the large scale event as they couldn't participate in the first event, and EXP is so damn precious to them due to their circumstances.
 
MD@Home
Joined
Jul 14, 2020
Messages
155
To be completely fair, Leah had the god's luck on her side.
She rolled an elf, min/maxed her starting traits to give as much bonus points as reasonable, spawned in a cave with nascent unique mini-bosses who could be charmed into simping for her, got silent take downs on all of them without needing to spend any points on her stats/skills, tried treating non-player characters as you know, living beings on a whim, got the offer to make said cat girl mini bosses her minions and then managed to blind pick the correct combination of loosely related skills that allowed her access to the retainer system.

Most other "normals" who start off in the monster realms are locked into a brutal survival of the fittest scenario so they have to go through the intended growth path, which is to say, spend every exp you get to scrape together an advantage to not dying. Stockpiling exp to experiment with moon shots is as much of a dream as any civilisation's hopes to better themselves when under the thumb of a calamity.
It also appears that most normies don't really think about stockpiling exp or going for moon shot divergent builds, because you're in a use-it-or-lose-it situation. If you don't spend the exp you get, when, and that is a when, you die, you lose it just as readily as the exp you've spent on making yourself stronger that could have prevented you from dying in the first place. Like with money, it's expensive being poor.

So, we can say it all came down to luck and her experienced gamer instinct. :win:

Thanks for the spoiler! I was actually afraid of all other players being normies. I guess I should've been more patient :p Looks like it's going to be very interesting!
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Jun 29, 2024
Messages
101
So, we can say it all came down to luck and her experienced gamer instinct. :win:

Thanks for the spoiler! I was actually afraid of all other players being normies. I guess I should've been more patient :p Looks like it's going to be very interesting!

The LN is IMHO worth reading. Have patience, things are really going to get crazy after a bit of ground preparation.
It really helps to mentally step back through the fourth wall and imagine if you were playing the game and all this lunacy happens. The LN does frequently interlude with BB chat doing just that.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top