Uchuujin no Kakushigoto - Ch. 23 - Spring (Haru)

[RequiemSymphony]

bruh the ending killed the hype it had cmon man

 

[mlow44]

Boring.

 

[mahtan]

I saw a good takedown on this whole concept before.

That break down does not understand what "strong" means in the context of the concept.

Famine is one of the times that makes the strongest of mens, they have to be strong to survive and maintain his family alive.
Strenght is more than just physical strenght and, for the concept, has nothing to do with physical strenght but with the undying will to preveil over nature.

strong men conquer, subjecting others to their will. Are these good times? Are they good even for the conqueror, who faces the horrors of aggressive war and the constant threat of rebellion?

Are those good times? No, strong men build good times. The period of conquest are the bad times being changed into good times that will follow. Using empires are example they start in a period of war and difficult followed by a time of peace and development, it is in the development time that "good times" come and the society weaken.

Do the weak men generate hard times by design? Why would they do this? Or is the implication that they do so inadvertently - but if so, aren't hard times more simply the direct result of good times? And given the list of "hard times" I gave earlier, how many of them could be prevented by a generation of "strong" men?

Weak men look for the easy solution and those have consequences later on and those decisions are what creates the bad times. From the examples given previously strong men would prevent them except for natural disaster but even then strong men would not let that be the end of the society, it wouldn't be a hard time just a bump like they are nowadays.

That concept of "strong men, weak men" has been attacked a lot by the people that get insulted by it and instead of understanding what it means they create false interpletation in the attempt to discredid it but it doesn't matter how anyone wants to take it as the cycle will repeat whether anyone believes it or not.

 

[DreadKaiser]

well this was a ride.

 

[Fathsyah]

Oooh.. Looking at the character hair color I understand.. basically it's a loop.. And I understand why Haru said this is their 8th "times"..

Basically it's a cycle of "Human" meeting "Alien" and those "Alien" became new "humanity" and new "Alien" came to meet new "human"

The loop will always happen until the planet is no more and they decide to invade new planet as an "Alien" and the cycle start once again..


It's actually pretty good concept but because of so many out of context dark humour it's became messy..

 

[ikevinz77]

garbage shit series
a solid 4/10

 

[Shamanfox]

I’m still waiting for the ’Comedy’ to appear…

 

[Hope_Valentine]

So humans can win all space wars with aliens.
They must come from another galaxy, so their tech level must be really high.
But humans themselves have no interstellar travel, no space colonisation, no galaxtic empire, and just went extinct from a simple nuclear war?

 

[TheMather1]

Man, this author needs therapy.

 

[Shot8manga]

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[jak]

WUT?

 

[ExarchOfAfrica]

Now that's a unique ending! A cyclical Earth where aliens continually fight for the planet, I've seen it in American sci-fi but no manga. It made the obnoxious message throughout the story and constant torture porn somewhat worth the read. That being said, there did not nearly need to be such death in the story, it really took the spotlight from the sci-fi elements that made this story good.

Looking again now though, it doesn't make sense why humans (supposedly formerly aliens) would go extinct from a simple nuclear war. Humans have survived climatic disasters in the past even if civilizations didn't. I can see 90% of the population dying but that other 10% will still survive. If you want extinct humans you need something like antimatter weapons but then he planet will be rendered ruined, even for aliens. Yeah looking again the nuclear concept was very lazy, something like death by volunatey sterilization due to an end to history as a concept would have been more interesting.

5/10.

Edit: Lol the score dropped by .8 points since this chapter s release

 

[cromat]

That break down does not understand what "strong" means in the context of the concept.

Famine is one of the times that makes the strongest of mens, they have to be strong to survive and maintain his family alive.
Strenght is more than just physical strenght and, for the concept, has nothing to do with physical strenght but with the undying will to preveil over nature.


Are those good times? No, strong men build good times. The period of conquest are the bad times being changed into good times that will follow. Using empires are example they start in a period of war and difficult followed by a time of peace and development, it is in the development time that "good times" come and the society weaken.



Weak men look for the easy solution and those have consequences later on and those decisions are what creates the bad times. From the examples given previously strong men would prevent them except for natural disaster but even then strong men would not let that be the end of the society, it wouldn't be a hard time just a bump like they are nowadays.

That concept of "strong men, weak men" has been attacked a lot by the people that get insulted by it and instead of understanding what it means they create false interpletation in the attempt to discredid it but it doesn't matter how anyone wants to take it as the cycle will repeat whether anyone believes it or not.

the reason why that quote is so appealing while being so wrong is that it doesn't define what weak and strong is, and lets the reader interpret what they perceive strong or weak to be. or what hard times or good times mean.

which means the quote means absolutely nothing. stalin can be considered strong, he was a leader and killed his opposition, hitler can be considered strong, he united germany and brought it out of economic depression. yet everyone would agree that they made very hard times. african warlords are strong, but the history of africa has shown that people there have not enjoyed much good times, if at all.

you can consider ghandi weak for his non violence, but he helped india gain independence. you can consider einstein weak cuz hes a sissy scientist that spartans would have chucked into their pile of dead babies because he wasn't fit to fight, but his development of relativity propeled us into the nuclear age (for better or worse) and gave us GPS

strong men can make hard times. strong men can make good times. weak men can make hard times. weak men can also make good times. so the quote says nothing while appearing to be insightful

also famine doesn't build strong men, china went through a long period of famine during the cultural revolution (caused by the strong man mao) and that period didn't produce any strong men, just mostly dead men. same with africa. smallpox didn't build strong men, just disfigured and dead men.

 

[BadmanBlues]

What did he mean by this? 🤔

 

[Armp1t]

Dont even try to understand shit like who is who and what did happen anymore, but I guess this could explain about Mark Zuckerberg being an alien or not

 

[DioBrandoXVII]

I liked the manga, but this ending felt objectively bad. I mean, just one example. If humans survived for thousands of years, there is a 0% chance that a nuclear war that only resulted in half the population's death would result in extinction. Radiation from nuclear war also would not remain at dangerous levels for hundreds of years due to how nuclear weapons detonate. Just look at Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Bikini Atoll. All of which were perfectly habitable environments less than a decade later. Even the 16 megaton detonation of Castle Bravo was not enough to render Bikini Atoll inhospitable. Also, assuming the human population thousands of years from now is 20 billion or so conservatively, that still leaves 10 billion people who are all more than intelligent enough to rebuild society. In addition, the nuclear winter caused by a nuclear war would not freeze the surface of the planet. While it would block out the sun, that would result in a disruption of crop growth and microscopic marine life, which would certainly damage the world's ocean populations severely, but would not result in an ice age or human extinction. And besides that, a nuclear winter would only last a decade or two at the very most. It's more likely to last a few months or a few years. And that's assuming humans didn't end up colonizing other celestial bodies like Mars, Titan, Europa, etc. whose populations would come back to Earth to fix the environment and save the remaining humans.

It honestly feels like this was axed and they just had to come up with some random ending.

 

[KnightSpark]

Well... how long before the cycle repeats itself?

 

[Hope_Valentine]

Or is it Haru who eliminates all the alien invaders?
So, because there were no alien invasions, humanity became so peaceful and suddenly went apeshit firing nukes at each other because of a slight conflict that is not even worth mentioning?
What a dumb ending.

 

[Dwander1219]

the author should have kept going with the robot housekeeper series smdh

 

[Nuggz]

So... Does this ending tank the rating of the manga?