Isekai Drug ~Yakugaku Chishiki de Monster Musume-tachi wo Toriko ni shite Nariagaru~ - Vol. 2 Ch. 9

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She called him a good guy, but I don't think a good guy would plan to destroy a country through drugs lol.
 
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My apologies in advance, I am simply going to be writing my thoughts as they come and go, so it might end up flowing weirdly or flowing about here and there. I do not feel the need to spend an extra amount of time cleaning this up. Brevity of course is a desirable thing, but brevity requires a lot of effort to rework everything you wish to say in as short a period of time as you need to, and therefore takes more time to write out than a wall of text you can just dump out. And I don't really feel this deserves much more effort than what comes and goes.

Ideally, the best solution really is to just ignore people like you who, without any reason whatsoever, decides to improperly slip into a hobby focused forum a sudden partisan political jab to covertly push a political leaning into a space. While it can be argued whether that stance is or isn't generally agreed upon, it still sets up the initial Bait of introducing partisan political discussion.

I specify partisan politics, because it is ultimately team sports partisan politics. Discussion of politics such as geopolitics within the context of a story and how we can relate it to real world historical events with clearly documented results and how a story could develop based on our knowledge of socioeconomics as sporatic as it may be for a bunch of geeks and nerds online anonymously discussing it with one another is one thing.

But introducing something that one party could be considered hostile is another thing.

You do not know who is consuming a content. They could be from your country, I specify that because I'm not in the US. They could be of your political leaning, albeit a moderate. They could be of your opposing party and may even agree with some of your claims of corruption that are so vague that really it is impossible to pinpoint exactly who you are discussing but you are clearly making a jab that is supposed to insinuate that this is obviously clear cut knowledge and an opinion that everyone should be sharing.

Or they could be from one of the many hundreds of other countries outside of yours who do not really give a damn about your partisan politics.

And why is it necessary to point this out. Because the whole FBI open up thing is a general meme, not really something people expect to suddenly veer into Specifically US partisan political jabs.

I imagine you are thinking that you are being very light hearted and jokeful and whatnot, or maybe you truly are just trolling and baiting for political tensions rising in an unrelated corner of the internet. But I would advise to avoid it. It ruins the experience for everyone involved, even those who are in your own party, because you unnecessarily begin introducing something irrelevant to the focus which is the story itself.

While it might be one thing to be an annoying person rambling about something in the story or getting something in the story wrong, or crashing out about your strong feelings about the story or the author or the artist, because of how well or bad they make their stories, or how badly they draw a character or how an artist is really bad at drawing appealing characters. It's another to introduce unrelated elements.

And if you wanted me to answer your question seriously. I can.

I believe all parties in politics are generally corrupt. Not that all members are corrupt, but that it is simply the nature of power when provided to those who are able to lead within a system that can be utilized to obfuscate cause, effect and responsibility. It's something you learn when working any job really, whether in the private sector or the public sector and whenever dealing with any form of bureaucracy. There is also leeway for it to reveal itself through either incompetence or active malice. And even those who speak and behave righteously in public may in fact be the most corrupt of people on the back end, and if they have enough power they are able to create a lot of additional layers of obfuscation and protection from themselves.

Either from the general culture of people who are too busy with their personal lives to devote enough time, energy and resources to look into the matter themselves.

The nature that a lot of us just simply rely on general fallacies for our everyday lives because we deal with too much to begin with, such as the fallacy of authority or of the masses, where we do not actually spend enough time to look into sources ourselves to properly fully cement into certainty what knowledge we have. But ultimately we still move forward with the general foundation of what we know, though ultimately we should also wisely choose to acknowledge that if what we know is in the wrong, to have enough flexibility to alter our perception and our base of knowledge to adjust to that.

In any case, this rambling has been a bit all over the place. But it's basically just a general query of whether or not you are actually baiting a space to try and get some partisan heat going, for your own amusement. Or if you are truly too brain rotten that you cannot help but feel that partisan political jabs are an acceptable form of entertainment to be had in a space that did not actually intend to have any partisan political discussion or elements anywhere and therefore lack some self control or awareness.

In any case. I do not actually believe you will be reading this. But for those that do, I hope you've had some entertainment reading this. I imagine that some people may have immediately also jumped the gun and made assumptions on my political leaning solely because I have misgivings about people inserting US partisan political based jabs, which if you are doing that, you may want to consider if you've perhaps let yourself be a bit too brain rotted with social media as well. Though admittedly, that has become the norm when reading people's actions online and it has become a damned shame that even just being a moderate liberal from the 90s has nowadays become the equivalent of being a political extremist, which includes the simple moderate request of. Don't bring up partisan politics.

Also, your joke isn't something that's as universal as you think it is. I think you just came out of a much smaller bubble than you expected and entered a slightly larger bubble and may not realize that your humor may have been shaped of a much smaller echo chamber. Because I honestly have no clue who exactly you are suggesting. And I say that as someone who has been looking a lot into the US partisan politics for my own entertainment as an outsider looking at the fiasco that has been your country for the past dozens of years.

In any case. I guess thank you for this thought exercise and letting my mind wander for a few dozen minutes to write this up without much second thought. If I said something stupid, eh. Sure. I mean I'm not taking the time to re-read this, double check myself or really do anything outside of just rambling what comes to mind.
I'm just making a jab at hypocrites that threaten my country, that's all~ That's the best way to answer their bullying, by turning what they say and do into ridicule. Something which the Japanese sometimes do in their manga, and which allows me to discuss it here. I will however recognize that is not the case here.
 
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Sounds like the solution is to add this "woman in white" to the collection first. That being said, she's pretty freaky. It might be a dude... or she might have extra parts!
 
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Why do you think that he is a troll?
I guess I might as well expand on that with the assumption that this is an earnest query.

Don't feed the troll is an old statement. It's like the old adage of don't fall for the bait, effectively.
The answer to your question directly is honestly in the post you just replied to. But regarding the expansion of some musing on the old adage itself... ah, going to just shove that into a spoiler to avoid making more unwanted walls of texts in here.

The issue is that you can never reliably have a troll admit they are trolling, and trolling may not be intentional. The reality is that the terminology is more of a warning to not engage into something that will just cause a shit show.

Whether you are engaging with someone who is being ignorant, willfully so or just direly so yet unwillingly. Whether you are engaging with someone who is clearly or unexpectedly going to be hostile, or someone who will intentionally or unintentionally sour the mood.

The end result is the same, a negative experience that begins with a person that becomes the Troll in question. Hell, you could even have a fair argument that my reply to him is the trolling action itself as well. Troll on troll interaction is not an uncommon thing and is effectively just watching a Dragonball Z fight happen, except Goku and Vegeta didn't teleport to an empty space to fight, so there's a lot of collateral damage and that damage is in the experience of a space. Like suddenly hearing two people having a heated argument in the middle of a shopping mall. Just one person screaming is bad enough, now you have two people having a shouting match. The second person might not have intended to make things worse, in fact they may be working to make things better, but it got worse still in terms of disturbing the peace. Or vice versa, the first person was trying to make things right, the second person was actually trying to distract from the bad they did. Or they're both attention whores and they're both in on it to make everyone's life worse.

This paired with the first rule of the internet of Lurk More tends to be a very insular general suggestion, which works very well for introverts or wallflowers. They are all suggestions to attempt to trust in the wisdom of the general audience and spectators in all these public spaces while also sparring the possibility of you becoming the center of unwanted attention and unwanted negativity, whether from your own internal frustration or from outsiders joining in. Controversy and confrontation after all attracts further debate, discussion and topics and those who are not well equipped or ready to handle these are best not to engage.

As long as you accept what you are engaging with, you are free to do so of course. I hope this provides a bit more information on the general nature of trolls online and the reality of the perception of trolls as well, because again, the difficulty in determining whether or not a troll is a troll is often difficult, which is why I stated it did not truly matter whether or not the person believed themselves to be or not to be a troll. The result of what they were potentially bringing into this space was more of the focal point. And of course, me feeding into it has caused this entire diversion from what this forum is originally intended for, discussing this most recent chapter.

In effect, I still ended up feeding the troll. And now we have this loud discussion happening about something that nobody who has come here for is wanting to engage. You walked past me loudly talking to someone else, asked me a question, I answered you loudly in this space where people are in this mall wanting to just look at the dragon loli pictures, and when they walk past here they see this discussion happening that isn't about the dragon loli and is entirely a distraction away from everything relevant to the space here.

Oh and. Off topic by nature is not trolling of course. Nor would passionate discourse be an issue normally. But this is still an open forum, not a personal one on one DM conversation or something of the source, by that nature all our interactions causes impedement in the traffic here. We add to the pages, we add to the things people have to scroll through, we add to the spectacles that occurs. And unlike shouting matches or loud noisy kids having their fun running through the mall, where eventually their voices fades into the air. Our stuff is stuck here, written, stuck in stasis, and permanently continuing to invite even more people to veer off what people initially wanted to discuss... Which is also possibly just fine. Most people probably don't go past the first or first few pages if they wanted to check the forums for some little fun related to the manga chapter.

Of course, feel free to keep thinking about the topic. The rules of Lurk More and Don't Feed The Troll are very antisocial rules admittedly, they are about self preservation after all, but they're really more like guidelines. But they are also very good for you to think on as well, because though you may opt to not lurk and to feed the troll. You can also at any point in time, choose to take those guidelines to heart. And stop engaging and replying. After all. Lurk More and Don't Feed The Troll never stated when you need to do so. It could also be taken as a suggestion of knowing when to Retreat. And there's nothing bad about retreat, especially online. Because nobody can tell why you stopped engaging in an online space and nobody has any authority over whether or not you are to keep engaging.

Also with the recent state of social media. Those two rules can also just serve to help maintain your sanity and your grasp on reality. Newer online suggestion that has come up that more people may be familiar with is Touch Grass. Which is a really quick way to just skip the Lurk More and Don't Feed The Troll, to just going straight to the You failed to apply both, and you need to retreat and collect yourself for your own sake. I.e. Touch Grass. Get out. Go AFK.

Well. I hope this was somewhat entertaining for you and anybody else that may be reading.

In fact, because I keep re-engaging in off topic discussions. Someone out there could argue I am being the troll now, even if it isn't my intent, because I am diverting from the proper central topic that should be this manga... Such as the question that is still left unanswered, is this dragon a lolibaba or an FBI open up?

Since we're seeing adult activities (erotica tag), my money is going to be on the dragon loli will at the very least be legal even if she isn't a baba.
 
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I guess I might as well expand on that with the assumption that this is an earnest query.

Don't feed the troll is an old statement. It's like the old adage of don't fall for the bait, effectively.
The answer to your question directly is honestly in the post you just replied to. But regarding the expansion of some musing on the old adage itself... ah, going to just shove that into a spoiler to avoid making more unwanted walls of texts in here.

The issue is that you can never reliably have a troll admit they are trolling, and trolling may not be intentional. The reality is that the terminology is more of a warning to not engage into something that will just cause a shit show.

Whether you are engaging with someone who is being ignorant, willfully so or just direly so yet unwillingly. Whether you are engaging with someone who is clearly or unexpectedly going to be hostile, or someone who will intentionally or unintentionally sour the mood.

The end result is the same, a negative experience that begins with a person that becomes the Troll in question. Hell, you could even have a fair argument that my reply to him is the trolling action itself as well. Troll on troll interaction is not an uncommon thing and is effectively just watching a Dragonball Z fight happen, except Goku and Vegeta didn't teleport to an empty space to fight, so there's a lot of collateral damage and that damage is in the experience of a space. Like suddenly hearing two people having a heated argument in the middle of a shopping mall. Just one person screaming is bad enough, now you have two people having a shouting match. The second person might not have intended to make things worse, in fact they may be working to make things better, but it got worse still in terms of disturbing the peace. Or vice versa, the first person was trying to make things right, the second person was actually trying to distract from the bad they did. Or they're both attention whores and they're both in on it to make everyone's life worse.

This paired with the first rule of the internet of Lurk More tends to be a very insular general suggestion, which works very well for introverts or wallflowers. They are all suggestions to attempt to trust in the wisdom of the general audience and spectators in all these public spaces while also sparring the possibility of you becoming the center of unwanted attention and unwanted negativity, whether from your own internal frustration or from outsiders joining in. Controversy and confrontation after all attracts further debate, discussion and topics and those who are not well equipped or ready to handle these are best not to engage.

As long as you accept what you are engaging with, you are free to do so of course. I hope this provides a bit more information on the general nature of trolls online and the reality of the perception of trolls as well, because again, the difficulty in determining whether or not a troll is a troll is often difficult, which is why I stated it did not truly matter whether or not the person believed themselves to be or not to be a troll. The result of what they were potentially bringing into this space was more of the focal point. And of course, me feeding into it has caused this entire diversion from what this forum is originally intended for, discussing this most recent chapter.

In effect, I still ended up feeding the troll. And now we have this loud discussion happening about something that nobody who has come here for is wanting to engage. You walked past me loudly talking to someone else, asked me a question, I answered you loudly in this space where people are in this mall wanting to just look at the dragon loli pictures, and when they walk past here they see this discussion happening that isn't about the dragon loli and is entirely a distraction away from everything relevant to the space here.

Oh and. Off topic by nature is not trolling of course. Nor would passionate discourse be an issue normally. But this is still an open forum, not a personal one on one DM conversation or something of the source, by that nature all our interactions causes impedement in the traffic here. We add to the pages, we add to the things people have to scroll through, we add to the spectacles that occurs. And unlike shouting matches or loud noisy kids having their fun running through the mall, where eventually their voices fades into the air. Our stuff is stuck here, written, stuck in stasis, and permanently continuing to invite even more people to veer off what people initially wanted to discuss... Which is also possibly just fine. Most people probably don't go past the first or first few pages if they wanted to check the forums for some little fun related to the manga chapter.

Of course, feel free to keep thinking about the topic. The rules of Lurk More and Don't Feed The Troll are very antisocial rules admittedly, they are about self preservation after all, but they're really more like guidelines. But they are also very good for you to think on as well, because though you may opt to not lurk and to feed the troll. You can also at any point in time, choose to take those guidelines to heart. And stop engaging and replying. After all. Lurk More and Don't Feed The Troll never stated when you need to do so. It could also be taken as a suggestion of knowing when to Retreat. And there's nothing bad about retreat, especially online. Because nobody can tell why you stopped engaging in an online space and nobody has any authority over whether or not you are to keep engaging.

Also with the recent state of social media. Those two rules can also just serve to help maintain your sanity and your grasp on reality. Newer online suggestion that has come up that more people may be familiar with is Touch Grass. Which is a really quick way to just skip the Lurk More and Don't Feed The Troll, to just going straight to the You failed to apply both, and you need to retreat and collect yourself for your own sake. I.e. Touch Grass. Get out. Go AFK.

Well. I hope this was somewhat entertaining for you and anybody else that may be reading.

In fact, because I keep re-engaging in off topic discussions. Someone out there could argue I am being the troll now, even if it isn't my intent, because I am diverting from the proper central topic that should be this manga... Such as the question that is still left unanswered, is this dragon a lolibaba or an FBI open up?

Since we're seeing adult activities (erotica tag), my money is going to be on the dragon loli will at the very least be legal even if she isn't a baba.
I mean, with how your administration is now it doesn't seem so farfetched that they don't search for pedophiles. Or even before, the flight logs.
 
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You think FBI is still looking for pedophiles when they have one as their head of state and among his administration? :lul:
The funniest shit I have read all week, you have officially won the Internet today sir!
 
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wow this just gets more and more dumb, that's impressive.
 
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Ah, so not only are they just gonna let the girl who betrayed them scot free, it's also becoming a gag.
Dropped.
 

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