Hope You're Happy, Lemon - Ch. 70

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The last page seems to hint at Lemon figuring out Sunao has feelings for Kogahara, Sunao now is being indesisive and questioning whether either of the girls like him, they are all becoming more observant of each other and aren't acting completely dense. Real fun about to start
 
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The more I read this series, the more I have to say "These are problems that can be solved by polyamory and regular communication"
 
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Usually, stuff like Throuple/Harem endings are very mixed up with "wish fulfillment" style stories that don't get bogged down with quality writing and narration. So while it's never a zero-percent possibility, I try never to jump to it being an actually viable conclusion to a romance arc involving multiple characters.
That aside - Sunao is absolutely conflicted with his feelings regarding Lemon now that they've had their Big Talk, and the fact that he seems to be actively not looking at them any deeper (I know it's been, like, 24 hours in-story, so 'grace period' and all that), I am a bit uneasy in ascribing the same amount of hope I had for Natsumin being the ending heroine that I had at the end of the previous chapter with her impending phone call.

The fact that it still seems like we're not getting a clear "Natsumin Focused Arc" in the immediate future, at least without Lemon potentially getting injected into the situation, makes it very hard for Natsumin to get dedicated screen time that she requires to compete with Lemon in the narrative sense when it comes to a potential romance component to the story's finale. As it stands now, she can't compete with Lemon, both in terms of history with Sunao, and with total amount of time spent developing her character. She needs that desperately, or she's just going to continue being a veritable prop that propels the other two forward in their own narratives.

I hope there's still a lot of story to be told, and that this isn't ending before we hit triple digits of chapters or something. I know who I'm personally wanting to see together at the end, but I'll accept any ending if we're given the requisite quality of story and attention to each detail and plot point - so hopefully this isn't ending anytime soon, because I could easily see it reaching 100 chapters without "running long" in order to fully tell the story that needs to be told for all three that does them all justice (to say nothing of the support cast).
could hardly agree MORE, I think you read my mind in every point.

I do not mind throuples but I don't think that's where this story was ever going, I'm only mentioning it because I see people bringing it up in the comments and really I wouldn't mind but just don't see it. Throuple romance endings seem almost monopolized by low quality writing, and I think there's stigma by association or because of monogamy being the social norm in most places, it's a bummer.
And I will not only not give shit to Sunao because as you said, there's a "grace period" in terms of recency of events, but also these complex feelings have only begun to develop and he has only now begun to notice, so I don't think it's him actively not looking at them any deeper and rather he is not looking at them any deeper due to only becoming aware now.

I do hold hope for a Natsumi focused arc, maybe not now, but I don't discard it yet. The only thing I don't completely agree with here is that Lemon has to be injected into the situation, she is one of the most deuteragonist deuteragonists I have seen, and if she wasn't tangled enough with being the childhood friend of Sunao, his ex, and Natsumi's roommate and best friend there's the story's premise with the swap that make it inevitable. A Natsumi focused arc simply can't be without Lemon being involved, not to mention with Sunao's complicated emotions at the moment, he kind of needs to adress it for his own sake if he wants to go forward with Natsumi.

And yes, I'd like the story to continue for quite a bit, it's an entertaining ride. It definitely can tell a longer story than 100 chapters, there's the material for it and the necessary setup for it prolonging and I hope it does.
 
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Poly ending would go crazy in this manga
It feels like we could be nearing an endgame.
But a poly ending... Could work... IF the Body Swap never stops you know. At that point you'd kind of have to have a poly ending.
But if the body swap is solved then it'll be solo ending.
 
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in the flashbacks he kinda knew the four timing were only rumors, while at the start of the series he didn't and thought it was true.
Did he "kinda know", or was it just so ridiculous and out-of-character that he was more in disbelief of it as an actual event/reason for her breaking up with him?

And Sunao back in chapter 1 wasn't only reeling from (allegedly) being 4-timed; he also ended up being ghosted completely by Lemon for four years starting the day of middle school graduation, after them being best friends since early childhood.

And when Lemon-as-Sunao ran into one of his high school classmates, she got semi-confirmation that Sunao effectively chose to swear off romance; meaning he probably just accepted the rumor/breakup reason as fact out of necessity to villify Lemon in his mind and make it easier to put her behind him.
 
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in the flashbacks he kinda knew the four timing were only rumors, while at the start of the series he didn't and thought it was true.
He didn't know that for certain - the rumors were there, she didn't deny them and she broke up with him under the premise that she's four-timing. Which left him just enough room to convince himself of the possibility that it might be true when he really needed an excuse to start hating her.
And yet still, how does any of this make the first chapter non-canon? Did you people miss chapter 60 where it is explained how we went from the situation in the flashback to the situation at the beginning of the series? I mean, you may not believe the explanation or like it, but it is still there. Call it dogshit - I'll understand, but "retcon" or "non-canon" - that's just gross misapplication of literary terms.
 
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Natsumi is a non character as usual. Funny how Lemon's issue is that she felt she was fake but she's the only one being true herself right now and natsumi doesn't really like Sunao while Sunao forces himself to like somebody else because he couldn't get over his Ex who he knew is having issues
 
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Natsumi is a non character as usual.
We have literally ZERO chapters about her without Lemon being directly involved or the chapter actually being about her instead. You can't expect anything from non existent characterization. She is nothing more then a prop and that's directly related to writing. It took 60 chapters to salvage Lemon back to Sunaobowl just to make the ending make sense. There will probably SOME chapters about Natsumi (if they are not highjacked by Lemon once again but not counting on it)
 
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We have literally ZERO chapters about her without Lemon being directly involved or the chapter actually being about her instead. You can't expect anything from non existent characterization. She is nothing more then a prop and that's directly related to writing. It took 60 chapters to salvage Lemon back to Sunaobowl just to make the ending make sense. There will probably SOME chapters about Natsumi (if they are not highjacked by Lemon once again but not counting on it)
I can only see her own focused arc as realizing that she doesn't love sunao, but wants a guy that's like her best friend lemon
 
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I can only see her own focused arc as realizing that she doesn't love sunao, but wants a guy that's like her best friend lemon
Didn't the filming-on-the-beach arc kinda definitively prove that she has real feelings for Sunao? I absolutely think Natsumi needs more dedicated focus in the narrative if the possibility of her having a romance ending with Sunao is to be even half-way believed, but trying to call her out as not actually liking him feels both premature and denying the groundwork laid between them thus far.

They also knew one another prior to the events of chapter 1, and were at least on friendly terms before Sunao ever ran into Lemon in the elevator. That's what made the reveal of Natsumi being Lemon's roommate so jarring for Sunao; his crush/feelings toward Kogahara don't exist in a vacuum from afar.

And if she wants "a guy who's like her best friend Lemon", how is that anyone other than Sunao, given how close they are having known one another for so much of their life?
 
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I kinda hope we get an alternate ending with both routes, but that would be too greedy. I am sorry Lemon, you had your chance I nominate Kogahara for winner of the ship wars
 
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Poly ending would go crazy in this manga
I mean, the biggest hurdle is Lemon and Kogahara loving each other romantically instead of platonically. And if Sunao flirts with Kogahara in Lemon's body a few times, that probably will happen 100% by accident (Kogahara kisses Lemon, thinking it's Sunao, for example).
 
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Kogahara STILL not being given a character focus arc this late in the story isn't giving me much hope she isn't just a story prop for Lemon and Sunao's relationship.

This isn't a "OMG THIS SHIP IS THE BEST OTP LOLO UWU" shitpost.

This is about basic story writing logic.

Author is not even trying to hide their intended "winner".
Agreed, Kogahara feels more like a plot device to move Sunao/Lemon's relationship forwards, rather than an actual competitor at this point.

Hell, if Sunao didn't actively state he likes Kogahara, there wouldn't be a ship at all, they haven't had much of anything else building towards a relationship yet. On the other hand, we have Sunao/Lemon basically ACTIVELY AVOIDING a relationship, because otherwise they honestly would already be dating by now using other romance manga as a standard... wait, they already dated? Uh, married by now, then.
 

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