Futei no Olympia - Ch. 2

[rmrs]

Thanks for the context. You guessed correct, I do not speak portugese.

If you speak English, the Chapter 1 English TL is available on "other sites". Which I'd assume most people are getting familiar with after the DMCA debacle.

 

[Joker875]

Thanks for the context. You guessed correct, I do not speak portugese.

That premise just raises more questions. What even are perfect genes? Height, facial structure, memorization ability? How does she seperate his ideal genes with the physical reality those genes find him in (Tired, passive, office-worker body)? Did she just pick a dozen superficial qualities and identify them as "genetic" or did she actually memorize the known parts of the genome and have him tested? I bet she doesn't know that his grand children have a 50% of baldness, or that he's got a family history of angina.

Simply, she likes his nature, finds the nurture lacking, somehow?

It still feels like she has created this narrow definition of what someone should be, or look like, or behave like, and she's crazy enough to use violence to coerce them into it. I just can't relate. It's more horrifying than funny.


Not sure how this matters. You've made two claims- that being "a little out of shape" is easy ammo for people to mistreat you, and that "not spending time on fitness is lazy."

The thing is, anything can be viewed as "easy ammo" if someone is a jerk who puts people down. Body shape, or how much you spend on your clothes, or if you use too many big words/not enough big words, what neighborhood you live in, etc. There are infinite possibilities of arbitrary values that someone can choose to criticize you for, but ultimately don't really matter. Usually conforming to one standard puts you in violation of another.

If you want to claim that not getting in shape means you're lazy, I'll insist you also earn a PhD, build your house, are in mensa, volunteer at your local animal rescue AND church, have transnavigated the globe on a sailboat... The point is people can cultivate their bodies, or their hearts, or their minds, or their communities. But we don't have enough time in our lives to cultivate EVERYTHING. People will put their effort into the things they value at the expense of things they don't.

I'll hammer my point about the subjective value of fitness with one more example. Fitness comes in many types. A bodybuilder sucks at track cycling. A Gymnast sucks at shot put. A Cross-fitter has a mid deadlift. Michael Jordan was merely decent at baseball. And none of those fitness types make you a better office worker. There is no absolute standard of fitness, and sometimes, physical fitness has no value to your situation at all.

I didn't read your entire text but you simply missed a little point, it's not his personality genes, it's his MUSCLE STRCUTURE genes, like, the form of his abs, biceps and etc(don't ask me how she knows about it under all that fat).
I feel like you are reading a bit too much in depth, sure there could be some meaning behind it all but this is mainly just a WTF Manga, just enjoy the crazy ride

 

[TheBlackGamer]

Not sure how this matters. You've made two claims- that being "a little out of shape" is easy ammo for people to mistreat you, and that "not spending time on fitness is lazy."

Because it is. There's no excuse to not spend at least 30 minutes in a day to do something to keep your body in shape to some degree. You're making excuses at that point if you can't even do that.

The thing is, anything can be viewed as "easy ammo" if someone is a jerk who puts people down. Body shape, or how much you spend on your clothes, or if you use too many big words/not enough big words, what neighborhood you live in, etc. There are infinite possibilities of arbitrary values that someone can choose to criticize you for, but ultimately don't really matter. Usually conforming to one standard puts you in violation of another.

And you're straw manning my point ad naseum. When I say avoid giving people easy ammo it's as simple as making your first impression to others be perceived positively. It can be dressing well, looking presentable, keeping yourself clean. To say that you'll never satisfy everyone is obvious. Only someone with debate brain would make that point thinking it's an actual rebuttal or someone making excuses to not change themselves for the better. The idea is to not make it so obvious that people will easily dismiss you or put you in a quick negative box because people will do it period. It's human nature.

If you want to claim that not getting in shape means you're lazy, I'll insist you also earn a PhD, build your house, are in mensa, volunteer at your local animal rescue AND church, have transnavigated the globe on a sailboat... The point is people can cultivate their bodies, or their hearts, or their minds, or their communities. But we don't have enough time in our lives to cultivate EVERYTHING. People will put their effort into the things they value at the expense of things they don't.

Strawman. When did I say you have to do everything. All I said is put some effort in making yourself presentable. No one is saying you have to be superhuman in everything you do. Just eat better and go out for short walks will do people an unbelievable amount of good.

I'll hammer my point about the subjective value of fitness with one more example. Fitness comes in many types. A bodybuilder sucks at track cycling. A Gymnast sucks at shot put. A Cross-fitter has a mid deadlift. Michael Jordan was merely decent at baseball. And none of those fitness types make you a better office worker. There is no absolute standard of fitness, and sometimes, physical fitness has no value to your situation at all.

Again. Starwman. Literally this entire response is nothing but strawmans that doesn't even properly rebuttal any of my points. There is a standard of fitness you're just purposely being obtuse. Being fit is as simple as low body fat percentage and decent healthy eating. Our protag in this manga eats like shit and doesn't workout or even do anything as simple as taking a walk after his lunch break and it shows in how he presents himself and is treated.

I don't like using anecdotal evidence to prove my point but if someone like me that works 12-14 hours a day can find time to not only take a walk after my lunch but also workout with some dumbbells I bought online at home. There is literally no excuse that people should be fat today other than laziness and poor decisions. Simple as that.

 

[maxyall]

Holy shit my brain plays a workout technobeat on repeat while reading this

 

[hsun]

Does she have Hanma's blood?

 

[GazumYuh]

This woman is NUTS
Also, thanks for the TL @tumblin

 

[JoeKerr]

She's completely deranged.
And I love it!

 

[KanzakiYuu]

Where's chapter 1? Am I missing something?

Edit: Nvm dmca stuff.

 

[martianpaws]

The heck did I just read?

I can't relate to the premise of this manga. He's disrespected because he's flabby. (And because he's a minor pushover). But somehow, an insane woman takes an interest in him? And implies that if he gets fit, respect will follow?

It doesn't make sense. Self-respect comes from within, whatever your body looks like. And if others judge you because of your body, then they're jerks. Some superficial appeasement (at the sacrifice of one of life's basic pleasures, SALT) does not transorm your life or make people stop being jerks.

Maybe the long-term arc is that he stops being a pushover by sending this insane person to jail, where she belongs.

It’s probably cause the husband character “saved” / inspired that office lady to be a muscle mommy in some back story

 

[Floriano]

Thanks for the context. You guessed correct, I do not speak portugese.

That premise just raises more questions. What even are perfect genes? Height, facial structure, memorization ability? How does she seperate his ideal genes with the physical reality those genes find him in (Tired, passive, office-worker body)? Did she just pick a dozen superficial qualities and identify them as "genetic" or did she actually memorize the known parts of the genome and have him tested? I bet she doesn't know that his grand children have a 50% of baldness, or that he's got a family history of angina.

Simply, she likes his nature, finds the nurture lacking, somehow?

It still feels like she has created this narrow definition of what someone should be, or look like, or behave like, and she's crazy enough to use violence to coerce them into it. I just can't relate. It's more horrifying than funny.


Not sure how this matters. You've made two claims- that being "a little out of shape" is easy ammo for people to mistreat you, and that "not spending time on fitness is lazy."

The thing is, anything can be viewed as "easy ammo" if someone is a jerk who puts people down. Body shape, or how much you spend on your clothes, or if you use too many big words/not enough big words, what neighborhood you live in, etc. There are infinite possibilities of arbitrary values that someone can choose to criticize you for, but ultimately don't really matter. Usually conforming to one standard puts you in violation of another.

If you want to claim that not getting in shape means you're lazy, I'll insist you also earn a PhD, build your house, are in mensa, volunteer at your local animal rescue AND church, have transnavigated the globe on a sailboat... The point is people can cultivate their bodies, or their hearts, or their minds, or their communities. But we don't have enough time in our lives to cultivate EVERYTHING. People will put their effort into the things they value at the expense of things they don't.

I'll hammer my point about the subjective value of fitness with one more example. Fitness comes in many types. A bodybuilder sucks at track cycling. A Gymnast sucks at shot put. A Cross-fitter has a mid deadlift. Michael Jordan was merely decent at baseball. And none of those fitness types make you a better office worker. There is no absolute standard of fitness, and sometimes, physical fitness has no value to your situation at all.

You are making this much fucking harder on yourself than it needs to be. With genes she means how he will look, or how she thinks he will look. Also I don't know why more than half of people here are missing the horror of the situation, but you kinda got it. She is fucking psychotic and a menace, she controls him now and he is fucked...

Also Ia heavily disagree with letting your body go just because. A healthy body is necessary for anyone, regardless of what you think, or what they dedicate themselves to. That's just a plain necessity for a better life. Yeah, you are been lazy and negletful if you don't take care of your body. No been in shape doesn't mean you are a body builder, don't be too close minded and narrow on your definitions, but that's besides the point of this manga.

 

[outinthegardener]

https://pbfcomics.com/comics/skub/

What we have here is a problem with epistemology. Are things true in an absolute sense, or are they true conditionally?