Kodoku no Kochou wa Donna Yume wo Miru no ka? - Ch. 12

[MangaDex]

 

[BreadBunny]

lmao, Ayumi just casually telling Iyu she was always included in her dreams of always staying together. That her eyes weren't just on Reika. I like that it also starts to awaken the butterfly inside of Iyu if her eyes are anything to go by.

Addtionally really love the difference between the girls who have been gifted to Ayumi's faction and Reika who has quite frankly gone completely off her rockers as a result of her blind loyalty to the Pieris Rapae. (how much of that is the bug and how much of that has been her all along remains to be seen)

The other girls haven't awakened their butterfly yet, so all that talk of how a change in faction won't change who they are is right now a little ominous to me. But hey, maybe we'll see them hold on to their humanity and show that Reika kind of just dove head first into being a good little butterfly for a queen who couldn't care less for the boring.

 

[LMXInferno]

Oh, so, Reika's CRAZY crazy. I mean, all the Pieris Rapae butterflies have seemed a bit more nuts than the others we've (briefly) seen, but damn. She's on another level. At the beginning I thought there was a bit "the lady doth protest too much" about her hatred towards Ayumi but it's been repeatedly proven to be genuine. If the author really intends to push Ayumi/Reika in the end it's gonna take some serious work.

Can't wait for her to stay losing. Girl is about to have the crashout of a lifetime in a couple chapters.

Meanwhile, Iyu butterfly awakening? That's exciting, and surely won't be a plot point affecting the duel. And we get back to the yuri a bit, yay.

 

[HeyJudas]

Yuri please

 

[Flaemes]

If the author really intends to push Ayumi/Reika in the end it's gonna take some serious work.

I wonder if the author will stick with how the things turned out in the WN or not. I don't think many people will have a positive reaction if yes.

 

[Yuri_Enjoyer_Deluxe]

Decision: Scissors.

 

[PandoraHope]

I wonder if the author will stick with how the things turned out in the WN or not. I don't think many people will have a positive reaction if yes.

what happen? pls spoil

 

[Recalcitrance]

Thanks for the translation.

 

[Flaemes]

what happen? pls spoil

In short, during the battle when Reika starts to lose, she becomes crazier in her desire to return Ayumi back and gives in to her insect completely. The reason for that is Reika's feelings of inferiority toward Ayumi. Anyway, she starts losing herself, driven by the desire to defeat Ayumi. Towa was watching it with glee and our MC had finally decided on who the REAL villain is. That's Towa, or, to be precise, her insect.
Reika loses the duel in the end, suffering a catastrophic death of personality, essentialy dying. The only way to save her is for Ayumi to dye her in black color, and that's what she does. The end.
BTW, it's also mentioned that it's not the first time something like this has happened.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Oh, so, Reika's CRAZY crazy. I mean, all the Pieris Rapae butterflies have seemed a bit more nuts than the others we've (briefly) seen, but damn. She's on another level. At the beginning I thought there was a bit "the lady doth protest too much" about her hatred towards Ayumi but it's been repeatedly proven to be genuine. If the author really intends to push Ayumi/Reika in the end it's gonna take some serious work.

One way that I could see it working, is if her bug completely hijacked Reika and turned her into a zealot for her Queen. If it's effectively total brainwashing or something, and that process can be undone, then her no longer being lethally hostile toward Ayumi could be established and maybe their relationship could be repaired and then rebuilt over time.

Though I wouldn't mind if Reika was just a lost cause. But if (or I guess "when") she loses to Ayumi in this duel and gets forcibly brought under the newest Queen, I don't know how that dynamic really would help the story because it would just involve constant friction that could prevent Ayumi's brood from really getting anywhere, lacking harmony among such a small number like that. So having her hatred be the result of something outside of her own agency would at least offer a target to destroy and thus restore the chance to forge connections between them.

 

[Feyrwen]

I wonder if the author will stick with how the things turned out in the WN or not. I don't think many people will have a positive reaction if yes.

This is what I was wondering too, considering it kinda just kinda ended too abruptly.

 

[SkyVentus]

This is what I was wondering too, considering it kinda just kinda ended too abruptly.

Wait thats the end of the wn? Or did it end bc it would be converted into a LN/Manga and as such its development would shift to those versions instead?

 

[rluka]

The other white butterflies might be elitist, but they’re not extreme zealots like Reika for sure.
If that’s just her butterfly’s individual personality, probably will still be the same even as it turns into black butterfly ^^;

The black butterflies still don’t have a fixed role (although they will likely be frontline if they inherit Ayumi’s weapon enchant power). Would like to see how if the first generations will still retain diversity from a lot of the other factions’ personality because they grew up as candidate of other colours.
Like Yotsuba still wants to make weapons, and maybe will hang out with the red butterflies.

Wait thats the end of the wn? Or did it end bc it would be converted into a LN/Manga and as such its development would shift to those versions instead?

Ends quite a while before the manga starts iinm. Latest chapter is just bonus story for release of second volume (which might or might not be consistent with the earlier chapters).
There have already been parts expanded in the manga.

 

[UdenEmpati]

In short, during the battle when Reika starts to lose, she becomes crazier in her desire to return Ayumi back and gives in to her insect completely. The reason for that is Reika's feelings of inferiority toward Ayumi. Anyway, she starts losing herself, driven by the desire to defeat Ayumi. Towa was watching it with glee and our MC had finally decided on who the REAL villain is. That's Towa, or, to be precise, her insect.
Reika loses the duel in the end, suffering a catastrophic death of personality, essentialy dying. The only way to save her is for Ayumi to dye her in black color, and that's what she does. The end.
BTW, it's also mentioned that it's not the first time something like this has happened.

that's kinda how I saw it playing out, if I'm honest. Ego Death by succumbing to the bug before defeat at the hands of Ayumi felt like the only way that I could realistically see pushing that particular angle for the two, so I guess that being the means does track.

Whether it's good, I guess depends on what each reader thinks of the idea, as well as how it's executed in the manga.

 

[LMXInferno]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind a plot of, like, Reika's bug gets overwritten and it changes her enough to reexamine herself and start a long path to change and accepting both Ayumi and herself; I like those sorts of redemption arcs.

But if it turns out that 100% of Reika's nastiness was due to her bug, and when it gets dyed black she's suddenly totally chill? No thanks. Unless it's explicitly a case of "the old Reika is dead and a new entity is born from the ashes of her personality and what happens now" case, but that still seems a bit... idk. Copout-ish?

 

[KitsuKyouno]

What really matter is that this story also an Ajisai who ironically is less obcesed than the other one...

 

[SirKosa]

that's kinda how I saw it playing out, if I'm honest. Ego Death by succumbing to the bug before defeat at the hands of Ayumi felt like the only way that I could realistically see pushing that particular angle for the two, so I guess that being the means does track.

Whether it's good, I guess depends on what each reader thinks of the idea, as well as how it's executed in the manga.

If her ego is dead then what remains of Reika? Fragments of herself mixed with fragments of the bug? Essentially equivalent of late stage of Alzheimer disease.

I don't see any future for her relationship with Ayumi besides a drone or a soulless, expendable warrior.

 

[GLFanatic]

Come on Ayumi. Kick her ass.

 

[UdenEmpati]

If her ego is dead then what remains of Reika? Fragments of herself mixed with fragments of the bug? Essentially equivalent of late stage of Alzheimer disease.

I don't see any future for her relationship with Ayumi besides a drone or a soulless, expendable warrior.

I guess it would depend on whether the author states that there's a way to come back from that, or if it's basically a matter of being reborn. Which, if that's the case, then would she be "Reika" anymore, which defeats the purpose, agreed.
Maybe it'll be handled differently in the manga - instead of that specific turn of events, perhaps something like:

Reika starts losing, and her bug--which I would assume would be loyal to Towa and the Pieris Rapae to the point of fanaticism--fully hijacks her, body & mind, in an effort to prevent its old loyalties being overwritten.
Reika "disappears" under the will of the bug, but powers up a whole bunch and becomes effectively suicidal in her attempts to kill Ayumi--and has to be basically put down to get her to stop.
She gets beaten at last, and is "freed" from the bug's influence--but is near-death, and the only way to save her is to re-dye her, which saves her life but leaves her broken with the bug now...I guess "factory reset"?--thus beginning the process of rehabilitating her, which Ayumi could undertake personally with the intent of "healing" her, and not merely converting her over to the new brood.

Again, dunno if it's good, but maybe that would set up a potential path to them reconnecting. And if it turns out the bug initially made Reika go Full Zealot for Towa in the first place (abnormal larva? no clue if that's even at thing that can happen, so I won't go injecting lore wholecloth beyond just the guess), then Ayumi "resetting/overwriting" the larve by re-dying Reika would ostensibly allow for Reika to come back as her old self.
But I'd have to go back and re-read, because now I don't remember if Reika didn't always exhibit subtle hints that she didn't actually like Ayumi, and only went fully mask-off once she become a butterfly under Towa--and if that's actually the case, then any future of them would require Reika's personality be overwritten in general, which would feel ....well, "bad", to put it mildly.

In any case, I can theorycraft and unintentionally make up lore 'til the pillbugs come home, so I guess it's best to just wait and see and hope it makes sense, all said and done.

 

[Fahadxyuu]

Oh no I'm in love with reika, sucks that she will most likely lose it.