S-Kyuu Boukensha ga Ayumu Michi - Tsuihou Sareta Shounen wa Shin no Nouryoku "Buki Master" de Sekai Saikyou ni Itaru - Vol. 2 Ch. 10

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eh Hyce resolved his issues just like that? There wasn't even any like monologue from him before he just shows up and tanks a hit and then forgives her just like that? Anyone who read the WN can they confirm if like Hyce has atleast a monologue leading him to make this decision how did this happen lmao.
 
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We can all agree that the main and only problem in all of this is... The author. He is just really bad at writing characters, nothing more nothing less. The world, the quests, the abilities, it's all great and interesting, but then you fuck up the main thing that drives all of that... It's just so disappointing.
Ok he's a Sasha simp, but she could have been written so much better and more likeable after she kicked the MC. Reading all these comments in the thread pretty much tells me most of us here would have done a better job with just a little bit of common sense.

I really liked this manga, and really liked Hyce's manga personality, but to be honest now i hope this doesn't go past 15-20 ch. It gets worse, especially if they keep this lame novel personality...
 
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I'm still a bit surprised on how hated Sasha is, she never tried to fk the MC intentionally, it was a mistake. She also tried to get close to him since she realized her mistake, the root of the problem was a misunderstanding, the timing to solve the problem is kinda OK. The MC hating Sasha forever was never a possibility.
 
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I'm still a bit surprised on how hated Sasha is, she never tried to fk the MC intentionally, it was a mistake. She also tried to get close to him since she realized her mistake, the root of the problem was a misunderstanding, the timing to solve the problem is kinda OK. The MC hating Sasha forever was never a possibility.
The things she did before the 2 years ghosting were understandable(though dumb as fuck) and could be solved, but everything that happens after that is not.
 
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He needs to tell her goodbye. Heres what really happened. They had a dream together. The together part was more important to him because he would of never thrown her away to get to the top without her. She threw him away to reach the top. Now heres where u say but she did it to protect him....... yeah so heres the thing. Its not like she didnt not know how he was going to take this unless she was a really bad childhood friend but honestly that might not be far off. So after she sent him off alone knowing he would feel betrayed and probably alone she sent him off to an area she only knew a little about? She didnt scout it out and make sure it was safe? So that for his own safety crap goes right out the window. Shes an adventurer and knows the importance of not knowing current data. So yeah he better not forgive her. I hope this is to help her and then he tell her how it was to him and shes even more crushed.
Omg yes! Like she didn't even move and inch when she heard the location which she sent him was dangerous. Hell, she didn't even rush over to make sure he was well, til after he passed out. With no apology or any for him to read when he woke up. Instead she just left for another mission. Meanwhile MC is left to deal with the demon she failed to kill, not fully knowing the full extent of his powers or if he could actually handle it. Which btw said demon took on the entire party and they struggled to win while the mc was alone. Yet, he's still a good enough friend to save her not once but TWO FUCKING TIMES. (Once from the goblin the second being the dragon blast) she says she cares but I haven't seen a single thing to prove otherwise. Also fuck off she was fine with taking the king's daughter and son but not her childhood friend into dungeons. And then begins to take low level adventurer into her guild to train them.should have done that for the friend if she cared so much.
 
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This is a good example of a LN/WN poorly adapted in manga. Cutting some parts or taking a different route is not a problem, but it become one when the changes affect the main character's mind to the point it feels unnatural. While reading this chapter, I feel like Hyce did a 180° on his personnality and Sasha become more and more detestable. :huh:

I'll drop this and return to the WN, which is not perfect but has a better pace and character's developpment IMO.:salute:
 
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So all of his fiasco of hating her from early chapter is settled in the span of 10 chapters? I thought that was the main selling point of this manga
i mean there's only so long you can drag out a misunderstanding before it gets annoying, this may even just be a reason to explain the MC's personality.
 
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So all the edgy "Im all alone now and got betrayed I have trust issues" thing lasted only this far ? Sure it looked like it would get solved but I think it ended all the conflict a bit too early. Now it will be the classic I love you now come with me while the mc will say "nah because the plot needs me to be alone and edgy while we have literally no issues rn"
peoples trauma dont just heal over night, sure he may know that she didn't do it on purpose but his mind hasn't actually recovered from it. sasha's mind did, we have physical proof that her mind recovered from her getting stronger... but the mc did not get stronger after that.
 
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eh Hyce resolved his issues just like that? There wasn't even any like monologue from him before he just shows up and tanks a hit and then forgives her just like that? Anyone who read the WN can they confirm if like Hyce has atleast a monologue leading him to make this decision how did this happen lmao.
To explain, most of this manga adaptation is bad, it leaves out every little bit of the darker and gritty elements, trying to turn this story into another shonen pegi 13 rating story.
It leaves out A LOT.
But onto these past few chapters,in the WN there is no turtle Shasa just gets careless, and is ambushed by goblins who start stripping her in order to rape her, and Hyce saves her ass, then sends her back to re-dress and regroup. Then she has her second awakening.
And obviously Hyce never tanks any hits for Shasa nor is hospitalized for the rom-com scene to happen. And he still keeps being distant, doesn't even go to the commendation ceremony for the extermination of the stamped.

So, no there is no such decisive resolution in the WN.

This smells like the author trying to tie up all loose ends before his unfaithful manga adaptation gets axed.
 
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peoples trauma dont just heal over night, sure he may know that she didn't do it on purpose but his mind hasn't actually recovered from it. sasha's mind did, we have physical proof that her mind recovered from her getting stronger... but the mc did not get stronger after that.
And Im ok with that but the pacing is so god damn fast that it looks like she is just gaslighting him to forgive her and use him as her emotional sponge. She did absolutely nothing to gain his forgiveness. Not approaching him or leaving a letter for 2 years after sending him to die like that is not looking good for a start and she is trying to make herself think that she did the right thing while actively betraying their dream and treating him like shit when he didnt learn his mastery. So instead of the "I must gain his forgiveness this was not my intention" story it looks more like a "Damn you are strong now gotta get you back to the party I guess". She learnt nothing from her mistakes and tries to slip away from any inconvenience with "I had no choice"
 
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Just keep going solo for now, edgy boy
I think it is better for Sasha as well.. She is growing up faster in maturity and power when you are apart from her.
What should happen now is Sasha joining Hyce, not asking Hyce to re-join her party.
 
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I appreciate that, but other examples are:
Loner Life in Another World - He is never alone, he had one night by himself in the first chapter... He has a harem
She's Likely Aiming for My Older Brother - She isn't, and it doesn't take long to prove it. Now, it is just a romance
Alya sometimes hides her feelings in Russian - For about 4 chapters, then it is all about the Student Council.
I would say about 90% of the time, these interesting hooks vanish without a trace and revert into bog-standard romances/Isekais. Especially the ones that start life as a one-shot.
It is the new bait and switch meta. Start with an outrageous premise and ignore it immediately after chapter 2. Out of those 3, Aiming for my older brother is the most blatant example. It is literally not even a plot point and MC doesn't really have any long lasting hang ups about it. It is just your standard wholesome slop no stakes romcom #544122365 of the year unless FMC turns out to be actually after the brother. Which is impossible because it would make it non-generic.
 
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No, he wasn't. The others in the team had motives to sabotage him from the get go. Both the Priestess and the Knight Dude literally ensured Hyce would get no training, constantly burdened him with various minor tasks and set out to sabotage him every step along the way. Both of them want Sasha and saw Hyce as the main issue with getting her.
Only the priestess had tried to kick him down. And she was not being quiet about it. The knight definitely had the motive, but he never actively did anything to the mc Despite his inner turmoil. He kept it professional and whatever Sasha decided, he followed. Mage simply agreed with the reasons because that man was pure logic and archer never agreed with kicking Hyce out.

The thing about Hyce being kicked out is that he was 100% being a liability on the field at the time. He was so desperate to prove himself he disobeyed orders to fall back and got himself almost killed which was the last straw.

Sasha biggest fault wasn't kicking him out, nor was it telling him about the field where that dragon was at. It was the lack of follow up after that incident. Hyce himself understood shortly after that she logically didn't make the wrong decision kicking him out, and the dragon incident was just bad luck and lack of info gathering on his part. The issue he had was that she misunderstood what the dream they had really was and that she didn't even try to clear the air for years after the incident. Granted the reason for that is because she was absolutely being awkward, and considering how their last interaction was with all the hate he was spewing, I almost can't blame her. ALMOST. she procrastinated too much. Fearful of what an interaction would result in.
Well ngl I'm sort of thankful this got introduced way earlier then it was supposed too :aquadrink:

MC sort of forgave her later on in the LN and apparently from my understanding of spoilers is that she STILL doesn't understand why everything happened
She understands why he's mad. He straight up tells her why in the WN. The scene was sadly not done justice in the manga.

Same with this chapter. He technically does save her during this incident, but it's because she was set up by another guild leader with poison. Hyce saves her, but it gave off a colder more professional feel. Like he is doing his job. He never took a hit for her nor gave a cheesy reason like his body moved on his own.
 
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I'm still a bit surprised on how hated Sasha is, she never tried to fk the MC intentionally, it was a mistake. She also tried to get close to him since she realized her mistake, the root of the problem was a misunderstanding, the timing to solve the problem is kinda OK. The MC hating Sasha forever was never a possibility.
I love how you people ignore how she immediately left on another quest when he collapsed and they didn't even knew if he'd pull through. She also never thought she had done anything wrong, nor apologized. Oh and bonus points, you Sasha defenders ignore that she happily allowed two of their group to sabotage Hyce, keep him from being trained, and actively trip him up every chance they had and it was them who got her to kick them out.

Which became even more ridiculous when they recently started recruiting low level newbs. And all of a sudden they can train them. The same training they gave Sasha, but withheld from Hyce. She allowed him to be turned into an errand boy who did all the menial tasks being treated like a servant rather than a member of the group and not only not receiving even the base training they're giving to the new folks, but loading him down with so many obligations and duties he couldn't even train on his own.

Sasha is NOT innocent in any of this, she saw all of it and permitted it. And since nothing has changed from the WN except for her being forgiven even faster, powering up even faster, chances are she'll find out and keep the two goombas who won't change their attitude towards Hyce nor change their ways and both want to bang her around too.
 
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Only the priestess had tried to kick him down. And she was not being quiet about it. The knight definitely had the motive, but he never actively did anything to the mc Despite his inner turmoil. He kept it professional and whatever Sasha decided, he followed. Mage simply agreed with the reasons because that man was pure logic and archer never agreed with kicking Hyce out.

The thing about Hyce being kicked out is that he was 100% being a liability on the field at the time. He was so desperate to prove himself he disobeyed orders to fall back and got himself almost killed which was the last straw.

Sasha biggest fault wasn't kicking him out, nor was it telling him about the field where that dragon was at. It was the lack of follow up after that incident. Hyce himself understood shortly after that she logically didn't make the wrong decision kicking him out, and the dragon incident was just bad luck and lack of info gathering on his part. The issue he had was that she misunderstood what the dream they had really was and that she didn't even try to clear the air for years after the incident. Granted the reason for that is because she was absolutely being awkward, and considering how their last interaction was with all the hate he was spewing, I almost can't blame her. ALMOST. she procrastinated too much. Fearful of what an interaction would result in.
My man, they treated him as a gopher and tied him down with tons of menial tasks. Treating him as a servant rather than a team member. They actively TURNED him into a liability, and the Knight/Priestess very much did so intentionally. The Priestess was just more outspoken and blatant about it. The rest of the group went along with it or didn't care, which is just as bad. Sasha standing by and permitting it in itself makes her irredeemable.

Hyce BECAME a liability not by accident but by intent. He was never trained, never had any lessons, and they loaded him down with so many tasks he wouldn't even have time to train on his own. They also ensured he wouldn't get any experience nor fight the initial easy enemies so he'd fall back further and further. Sasha even fucking NOTICES this when they recruit new people, and do all these things with them. The same things that were done for her, while she received training Hyce was basically send to do chores and clean up for the party.

No, Sasha was a horrible, selfish, egotistic person long before that. She has a tendency to just ignore things that are inconvenient to her. To handwave them away. To ignore how others are treated and used, as long as the people doing it benefit her personally. She saw what her hanger ons did, and allowed it. She never even saw a problem with it and just went along with whatever bad excuse they gave her.

Hyce "understanding" is part of the author's endless glazing of Sasha. Something even the Japanese audiences is furious about and complains about endlessly. One of the most chill audiences who usually hardly ever speak up about anything. Sasha is a horrid person, in her own way she's more evil than many selfish and intentional evil parties kicking out people. And I doubt there'll be any comeuppance for the people who intentionally sabotaged Hyce this time around either.
 
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My man, they treated him as a gopher and tied him down with tons of menial tasks. Treating him as a servant rather than a team member. They actively TURNED him into a liability, and the Knight/Priestess very much did so intentionally. The Priestess was just more outspoken and blatant about it. The rest of the group went along with it or didn't care, which is just as bad. Sasha standing by and permitting it in itself makes her irredeemable.

Hyce BECAME a liability not by accident but by intent. He was never trained, never had any lessons, and they loaded him down with so many tasks he wouldn't even have time to train on his own. They also ensured he wouldn't get any experience nor fight the initial easy enemies so he'd fall back further and further. Sasha even fucking NOTICES this when they recruit new people, and do all these things with them. The same things that were done for her, while she received training Hyce was basically send to do chores and clean up for the party.

No, Sasha was a horrible, selfish, egotistic person long before that. She has a tendency to just ignore things that are inconvenient to her. To handwave them away. To ignore how others are treated and used, as long as the people doing it benefit her personally. She saw what her hanger ons did, and allowed it. She never even saw a problem with it and just went along with whatever bad excuse they gave her.

Hyce "understanding" is part of the author's endless glazing of Sasha. Something even the Japanese audiences is furious about and complains about endlessly. One of the most chill audiences who usually hardly ever speak up about anything. Sasha is a horrid person, in her own way she's more evil than many selfish and intentional evil parties kicking out people. And I doubt there'll be any comeuppance for the people who intentionally sabotaged Hyce this time around either.
Totally this
And that's why i think the part where she remenber hyce always cheering her on is just insulting at this point
What she did was literally spit in his face after all he did but no miss author favorite just forgot all the abuse and want him in the team now
Author clearly doesn"t give a fuck about anything if you're not his chorizo 2.0
 
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Okay, it was 10 chapters. That's TEN WHOLE CHAPTERS before this mess of a story became unsalvageable. Good to know. I was wondering where they were going to take it, I mean, the start was amazing, it looked like it was going to be about a guy doing his own thing after being abandoned by the world and what not... I did read the spoilers, but I never imagined it'd be THIS bad.

OH, AND TO MAKE THINGS EVEN BETTER, HIS PEP TALK BEFORE FAINTING GAVER HER A POWER UP, THAT'S JUST FUCKING HILARIOUS...
 
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I'm still a bit surprised on how hated Sasha is, she never tried to fk the MC intentionally, it was a mistake. She also tried to get close to him since she realized her mistake, the root of the problem was a misunderstanding, the timing to solve the problem is kinda OK. The MC hating Sasha forever was never a possibility.
No, MC spelled it out for her. She kicked him out to achieve HER dreams thus bringing THEIR dream to a close. There is nothing wrong with using and betraying those around you to achieve victory, but don't expect people to like you very much if you take that path.
 

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