Kanojo no Tomodachi - Ch. 110

[Voidz_J]

93.5 chapter was spicy. Would love to translate it if voidzJScans won’t be able to.

I need to find a new way to secure digital volume raws, so I'll try to do it asap. I forgot about the new extra chapter as I haven't received the new volume yet.

 

[Mangamoz]

Never heard of slow burn story progression in netorare? That's how Destiny Lovers netorare happened.

Didn't Destiny Lovers rug pull it later so it never happened or something?

A better example would be Guilty Circle.

 

[erintesden]

Doubt that, judging by the fuckboy tone toward the director, he seem to look down on the guy. Not to mention that the fuckboy clearly stated that his intention of participate in this film is because of Tomoko's participation, not because of any collusion with the director. It should also be noted that this is just a normal film, even if there are erotic scenes, it still acting (and Tomoko seem fine with it, judging by the chapter where she shot the photo of her getting tear off her sentai's clothes) and not directly intercourse between 2 actors like in AV films. If the fuckboy want to harm or SA Tomoko, he has to lure her to his place, not on the film set

Somehow I think Tomoko comment of not doing things half-heartedly may go against her in the future.
Fuckboy may go full rapey mode on her under the excuse "If we (insert sexual act) instead of just acting it, the movie will look more realistic/better" and keep pushing into getting in her pants that way.
And depending on what's her deal with accepting to participate in the movie (she just wants to work hard because she saw MC in his job?) she may accept/allow the guy's advances or completely shut him down.
Who knows how she may react

 

[akaiyasha]

Somehow I think Tomoko comment of not doing things half-heartedly may go against her in the future.
Fuckboy may go full rapey mode on her under the excuse "If we (insert sexual act) instead of just acting it, the movie will look more realistic/better" and keep pushing into getting in her pants that way.
And depending on what's her deal with accepting to participate in the movie (she just wants to work hard because she saw MC in his job?) she may accept/allow the guy's advances or completely shut him down.
Who knows how she may react

I don't think that the author would choosing that road. At the end of the day, she also have to think about the reception of the manga, right now the images of Tomoko appear everywhere, from all the manga's cover till now, the gravure cosplay promote, and the pool voting of who's the fan favorite character. Tomoko also doesn't seem like the kind of retarded actor, who would chose that type of method acting and easily fall into the trap like that. Jyura could easily chose the ntr, but it will lead to nothing, what come after that? She also like to milk her manga, unless she want to end the manga fast and it sell. Also, I don't think compare to Lust Gear and Guilty Circle would fair, one happen near the end of the manga, but the author have to pull back, one is just a dumpster fire with nothing make sense and the author thrown random bullshit into the manga every week

 

[erintesden]

Also, I don't think compare to Lust Gear and Guilty Circle would fair, one happen near the end of the manga, but the author have to pull back, one is just a dumpster fire with nothing make sense and the author thrown random bullshit into the manga every week

I wasnt the one comparing it to any of those series, unless something simmilar to what I said happens in those?
I vaguely know about Guilty Circle and dont care much, but what about the other one?
If you dont mind, could spoil me what happens in Lust Gear exactly? Especially because you said the author backtracked?

 

[akaiyasha]

I wasnt the one comparing it to any of those series, unless something simmilar to what I said happens in those?
I vaguely know about Guilty Circle and dont care much, but what about the other one?
If you dont mind, could spoil me what happens in Lust Gear exactly? Especially because you said the author backtracked?

I read it long ago, don't remember much, but basically some scenes imply that ntr happen, but later the author pull it back, said in the later chapter that it was just some kind of dream walk from the female character and there were no intercourse (?), that she didn't know anything when that happen

 

[Thunderous27]

Never heard of slow burn story progression in netorare? That's how Destiny Lovers netorare happened.

Destiny Lovers wasnt exactly NTR. There was NTR between the side couples but the main couple of FMC and MC had no NTR. What you see about FMC getting fucked by some guy was actually a plan to make her be safe and not lose her virginity. Later on after a few chapters, the "NTR trials" end and its revealed the FMC and the guy behind her were plotting and it was all fake (the rest of them did have sex), IIRC the MC punched the guy for not telling him before, but in the end it all worked. To summ it up, the FMC and the other guy were dry humping each other but there wasn't actual sex and the MC took her first time after that and they had a happy family.

Guilty Lovers on the other hand had NTR from both the MC and FMC (they cheated on each other) and it was more than just one time, in the most recent chapters it happened again and now the plot is going absolutely nowhere.

 

[Thunderous27]

I read it long ago, don't remember much, but basically some scenes imply that ntr happen, but later the author pull it back, said in the later chapter that it was just some kind of dream walk from the female character and there were no intercourse (?), that she didn't know anything when that happen

And this regarding Lust Geass... the NTR did in fact happen, but the author made the girl say she was doing it out of "instinct" and she wasn't conscious/wasn't herself when she was doing it (I forgot who made her do it but it was someone) in the end you see somewhat different endings where MC dies, one where all of it (including NTR iirc) was a dream and nothing happened, and one where it did happen, but MC forgave her or just moved on. I'm pretty sure the last one was the canon one, but author got so much critics they made two more endings (if im right, they added NTR at the last part because the manga was going to get axed or something so they did it in revenge or smth).

 

[Thunderous27]

Didn't Destiny Lovers rug pull it later so it never happened or something?

A better example would be Guilty Circle.

Exactly this, Destiny Lovers got so much bad reviews after doing it that they changed it into "we were plotting this and they weren't having actual sex, so its not NTR"

Guilty Circle, Lust Geass and that one manga about 100 floors something is a better example.

 

[CulR]

More bait that wont lead to anything, can we get back to title please

I forgot what the title was

 

[CulR]

Is the author trying to do an NTR scare? The plot was already scared away.

 

[akaiyasha]

Is the author trying to do an NTR scare? The plot was already scared away.

Probably just another bait like the karaoke one

 

[kaZeTenShi]

The whole story is a love affair and now you're asking if its going NTR route? Wait, whats the difference exactly?
Or you saying its fine when the male cheats on his lover but if the woman does it, its NTR and unacceptable?

wtf?

Anyway, in 108 - Kaorin was told she'd be at the audition, which meant she got to pick the lead actress. Which meant she chose Yoshioka.
Since its the first Director's role in AV, i doubt he even knows her. This is Kaorin's doing, which may indicate it is a twisted, possibly unconscious form of revenge
The leadup to this entire story was her trying to come to terms with what she went through.

The symbollism of Kaorin's first approved project being NTR. And its essentially a telling of her own story and her pain.
The pacing of the project and the twist of going into ero in the first place, and the convenient framing of Yoshioka's career pathing
The secret relationship Yoshioka and Takeru is having despite her status, and his uncertainty and overall shame-baiting about trying to be a "worthy" man before committing to anything
its all to convenient

It probably won't be a full blown NTR. but the plot is most certainly going to be a twist of fate. With a lot of pain and regret
Also, judging from the title of the AV itself... yeah its definitely going to be a feud between Yoshioka and Kaorin
My guess is that Yoshioka will be playing the story out in Kaorin's position, in an attempt to get her to "feel" what it would be like to lose your lover. In an attempt to get her to see her side of the story and the pain she went through
This is Kaorin's story, she wrote it, so if it IS NTR, then it will be framed in her perspective, since its her pain. So wouldn't that mean Yoshioka is supposed to be the one feeling loss and despair?

I'm not personally troubled by NTR, but even so, I doubt it will go that route for many reasons.
I genuinely believe this will backfire on Kaorin, and its possible that she will suffer even more pain, after realizing the depth that Yoshioka is willing to go.

I doubt this will even impact Takeru as much as people fear it will. I mean he's literally pushing her to do this. He's not stupid, I'm sure he understands what position it puts her in, especially since she wanted to retire and get out of the industry altogether

I think people are giving the male character way too much credit and agency. He's a cheater, plain and simple. And only acting out that this will be "NTR" is baffling to me. I mean, he cheated in the first place. This all started with him.
Why are people now only being conscious of pain and agony of NTR in this context?

I feel like the author has deliberately put Takeru in a position where he has absolutely nothing to do with this. I mean, he can't even understand his true feelings with Yoshioka and whether he even loves her or not. He's just using her as a sexual outlet without committing to anything at this point.
And quite frankly, this is exactly how this affair started in the first place.

This honestly has very little to do with him
This is between Kaorin and Yoshioka, and the unspoken feelings they have for the affair in the first place
For Kaorin, its about coping
For Yoshioka, its about stability

Thats where the power dynamic lies in this story

TL;DR -
I think Kaorin unconsciously wants revenge. But it will backfire on her and probably cause her more pain.
Yoshioka will probably come out of this unhurt, because she's willing to do this diligently (if you can even call it that lol). Evil male character and Kaorin will probably greatly underestimate this
Dont really care about Takeru in this context, he's so distant from the story he may as well not even exist

 

[akaiyasha]

The whole story is a love affair and now you're asking if its going NTR route? Wait, whats the difference exactly?
Or you saying its fine when the male cheats on his lover but if the woman does it, its NTR and unacceptable?

wtf?

Anyway, in 108 - Kaorin was told she'd be at the audition, which meant she got to pick the lead actress. Which meant she chose Yoshioka.
Since its the first Director's role in AV, i doubt he even knows her. This is Kaorin's doing, which may indicate it is a twisted, possibly unconscious form of revenge
The leadup to this entire story was her trying to come to terms with what she went through.

The symbollism of Kaorin's first approved project being NTR. And its essentially a telling of her own story and her pain.
The pacing of the project and the twist of going into ero in the first place, and the convenient framing of Yoshioka's career pathing
The secret relationship Yoshioka and Takeru is having despite her status, and his uncertainty and overall shame-baiting about trying to be a "worthy" man before committing to anything
its all to convenient

It probably won't be a full blown NTR. but the plot is most certainly going to be a twist of fate. With a lot of pain and regret
Also, judging from the title of the AV itself... yeah its definitely going to be a feud between Yoshioka and Kaorin
My guess is that Yoshioka will be playing the story out in Kaorin's position, in an attempt to get her to "feel" what it would be like to lose your lover. In an attempt to get her to see her side of the story and the pain she went through
This is Kaorin's story, she wrote it, so if it IS NTR, then it will be framed in her perspective, since its her pain. So wouldn't that mean Yoshioka is supposed to be the one feeling loss and despair?

I'm not personally troubled by NTR, but even so, I doubt it will go that route for many reasons.
I genuinely believe this will backfire on Kaorin, and its possible that she will suffer even more pain, after realizing the depth that Yoshioka is willing to go.

I doubt this will even impact Takeru as much as people fear it will. I mean he's literally pushing her to do this. He's not stupid, I'm sure he understands what position it puts her in, especially since she wanted to retire and get out of the industry altogether

I think people are giving the male character way too much credit and agency. He's a cheater, plain and simple. And only acting out that this will be "NTR" is baffling to me. I mean, he cheated in the first place. This all started with him.
Why are people now only being conscious of pain and agony of NTR in this context?

I feel like the author has deliberately put Takeru in a position where he has absolutely nothing to do with this. I mean, he can't even understand his true feelings with Yoshioka and whether he even loves her or not. He's just using her as a sexual outlet without committing to anything at this point.
And quite frankly, this is exactly how this affair started in the first place.

This honestly has very little to do with him
This is between Kaorin and Yoshioka, and the unspoken feelings they have for the affair in the first place
For Kaorin, its about coping
For Yoshioka, its about stability

Thats where the power dynamic lies in this story

TL;DR -
I think Kaorin unconsciously wants revenge. But it will backfire on her and probably cause her more pain.
Yoshioka will probably come out of this unhurt, because she's willing to do this diligently (if you can even call it that lol). Evil male character and Kaorin will probably greatly underestimate this
Dont really care about Takeru in this context, he's so distant from the story he may as well not even exist

Dude, Kaori's movie project and this project are separate project, one is straight up AV, the other uses hot scenes to attract views, from an "ex" AV director. And the story is not that deep, it's not 5D chess mah dude

 

[kaZeTenShi]

Dude, Kaori's movie project and this project are separate project, one is straight up AV, the other uses hot scenes to attract views, from an "ex" AV director. And the story is not that deep, it's not 5D chess mah dude

nothing i said was "5d chess"

i'm not really interested in which project is which, since its just a bait to make it appear like tomioka is getting herself into danger by taking jobs that may hurt her status & brand, but she's not an idiot, also her manager recognizes the guy, so its highly likely she does too

im focused on kaorin's effort since she's the one who suffered pain in this story, and im interested in whether she overcomes it and how. and i believe it will be a twist of fate that tomioka will work on that project and it may end up being an unconscious form of revenge that will cause kaorin more pain.

that isn't 5d. if you think that is 5d... well, I can't help you

 

[Shinratenseikami]

It was i

Destiny Lovers wasnt exactly NTR. There was NTR between the side couples but the main couple of FMC and MC had no NTR. What you see about FMC getting fucked by some guy was actually a plan to make her be safe and not lose her virginity. Later on after a few chapters, the "NTR trials" end and its revealed the FMC and the guy behind her were plotting and it was all fake (the rest of them did have sex), IIRC the MC punched the guy for not telling him before, but in the end it all worked. To summ it up, the FMC and the other guy were dry humping each other but there wasn't actual sex and the MC took her first time after that and they had a happy family.

Guilty Lovers on the other hand had NTR from both the MC and FMC (they cheated on each other) and it was more than just one time, in the most recent chapters it happened again and now the plot is going absolutely nowh

Destiny Lovers wasnt exactly NTR. There was NTR between the side couples but the main couple of FMC and MC had no NTR. What you see about FMC getting fucked by some guy was actually a plan to make her be safe and not lose her virginity. Later on after a few chapters, the "NTR trials" end and its revealed the FMC and the guy behind her were plotting and it was all fake (the rest of them did have sex), IIRC the MC punched the guy for not telling him before, but in the end it all worked. To summ it up, the FMC and the other guy were dry humping each other but there wasn't actual sex and the MC took her first time after that and they had a happy family.

Guilty Lovers on the other hand had NTR from both the MC and FMC (they cheated on each other) and it was more than just one time, in the most recent chapters it happened again and now the plot is going absolutely nowhere.

It was NTR. The publisher of Destiny Lovers is the same publisher of Guilty Circle. That publisher is known for publishing manga with NTR and i remember the Author talking about how he was forced to add an NTR on it because the publisher said so since NTR is becoming popular that time. Destiny Lovers received so much backslash the author finally decided to end the manga early of course the author also decided to change the story to make a mend by making it look like it was planned and the sex between the FML and the other guy is fake, then author dropped another chapter where the FML and MC had sex and shown she was bleeding meaning she's still a virgin, but of course we all know the NTR actually happened.

 

[Thunderous27]

It was i



It was NTR. The publisher of Destiny Lovers is the same publisher of Guilty Circle. That publisher is known for publishing manga with NTR and i remember the Author talking about how he was forced to add an NTR on it because the publisher said so since NTR is becoming popular that time. Destiny Lovers received so much backslash the author finally decided to end the manga early of course the author also decided to change the story to make a mend by making it look like it was planned and the sex between the FML and the other guy is fake, then author dropped another chapter where the FML and MC had sex and shown she was bleeding meaning she's still a virgin, but of course we all know the NTR actually happened.

Publisher =/ Author. NTR didn't happen if she was a virgin, I was there when all the controversy happened and the author wasn't forced to add NTR, he said that as a way to defend himself. The editor just told him what was popular during that time, and since people didn't like it, he stepped back and said it wasn't actual NTR.

In the panels you can see theres no "insertion" SFX, only a "sliding" one, and the author also said it wasn't what we thought it was in one of his tweets.

The author of Guilty Circle is known for adding NTR to almost every one of his works, he wanted to also add blackmail and NTR to one of his really wholesome mangas and the artist said "no" and ended the manga early.