Kusunoki-san wa Koukou Debut ni Shippai Shite Iru - Ch. 46 - Maybe... the tides are turning!

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i just woke up and maybe my mood wasn't right for it but what the fuck is the point of Hebikawa, like literally pretty sure if she doesn't exist nothing will change about this story the mc hate her the manga frame it so we're supposed to hate her, is it like a long ass redemtion arc plan that will rival Luffy finding out what the One piece is? We're 46 chapter in and she serve 0 purpose fucking Irie over there (best girl btw) has more of a development that she is come on man
 
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i just woke up and maybe my mood wasn't right for it but what the fuck is the point of Hebikawa, like literally pretty sure if she doesn't exist nothing will change about this story the mc hate her the manga frame it so we're supposed to hate her, is it like a long ass redemtion arc plan that will rival Luffy finding out what the One piece is? We're 46 chapter in and she serve 0 purpose fucking Irie over there (best girl btw) has more of a development that she is come on man
This is an incoherent rant, but I get what you're coming from, man. It doesn't feel that the author has properly set up each of the main characters' arcs when it comes to character growth. This chapter, for example, is a generic "sick visit" trope. And feels more like it was used as an overcorrection to make Kusunoki look more romantically interested and conscious of Keisuke, which she was not as enthusiastic as before. And doesn't really at least hint on addressing the issue of her "being served on silver platter". IDK man, I get mixed signals of this manga, because the way it's set up is pretty messy narratively speaking.
 
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He should forget about the handkerchief. It's a small price to pay to not deal with her and will send a message of how little he gives a crap about her.
 
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oh Christ this handkerchief situation will lead to something like in Othello right?

nice to see Shakespeare influencing modern literature tho
 
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i just woke up and maybe my mood wasn't right for it but what the fuck is the point of Hebikawa, like literally pretty sure if she doesn't exist nothing will change about this story the mc hate her the manga frame it so we're supposed to hate her, is it like a long ass redemtion arc plan that will rival Luffy finding out what the One piece is? We're 46 chapter in and she serve 0 purpose fucking Irie over there (best girl btw) has more of a development that she is come on man
I suspect Hebikawa is going to be the catalyst that pushes Kusunoki to develop/recognize her feelings for Keisuke.

Thus far, Kusunoki has actively denied having any feelings for the ML, making his crush on her entirely one-sided.
We recently learned that part of her reasoning for "not understanding"--but possibly now more actively avoiding--love and romance; but now that she's realized that Otobe might have a crush on Keisuke, she has even more reason to avoid that sort of entanglement with the Keisuke, and is now trying to distance herself from him.
Cue Hebikawa, whose primary character goal is to make Kusunoki "fall" - she thinks that anyone who has a "perfect person appearance" is actually hiding a darkness underneath, and is thus determined to expose Kusunoki's dark/bad side to everyone else. She's also wrapped up in Keisuke's past trauma, being the reason he can't really talk to girls for the most part.
But now that Hebikawa thinks she can get to Kusunoki through Keisuke by going after him and seducing him (because she's clocked Kusunoki as having latent feelings for Keisuke), she'll be trying to spend more time around Keisuke in order to "get him", which she believes will push Kusunoki into breaking her "perfect person persona" and get jealous/yandere or something that will expose that darkness she's convinced Kusunoki has inside.
But (I suspect) in the process of that, Hebikawa will start falling for Keisuke instead, which might still end up pushing Kusunoki to act on her feelings for him and thus pursue/reciprocate his crush on her.

So in essence - if I'm correct, Hebikawa is the character that serves as a foil both for Kusunoki's character (the "dark" to her perfectionism), as well as the foil to the romance between Kusunoki and Keisuke. Without any outside motivation/pressure, Kusunoki will continue running from romance, until she's forced to actually participate by virtue of the chance of losing her romance target (Keisuke) to someone else.

Also - and this is my person opinion only - but without Hebikawa, this becomes an incredibly generic romcom school manga that we've seen plenty of times before. So I personally still read this entirely because her character exists; otherwise everyone else is pretty generic and formulaic in their presentation: Kusunoki is the "perfect heroine protagonist"; Keisuke is the ML who falls for the main heroine and attempts to get her to notice him by being generally helpful in all the standard ways; Otobe is the tomboy childhood friend who's over-protective, but then falls for the ML and becomes a Losing Heroine.
Hebikawa exists outside of that dynamic, and introduces depth to the arcs of Kusunoki and Keisuke that elevates this above the bog standard fair of schoolkid-age romcom titles.
 
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I suspect Hebikawa is going to be the catalyst that pushes Kusunoki to develop/recognize her feelings for Keisuke.

Thus far, Kusunoki has actively denied having any feelings for the ML, making his crush on her entirely one-sided.
We recently learned that part of her reasoning for "not understanding"--but possibly now more actively avoiding--love and romance; but now that she's realized that Otobe might have a crush on Keisuke, she has even more reason to avoid that sort of entanglement with the Keisuke, and is now trying to distance herself from him.
Cue Hebikawa, whose primary character goal is to make Kusunoki "fall" - she thinks that anyone who has a "perfect person appearance" is actually hiding a darkness underneath, and is thus determined to expose Kusunoki's dark/bad side to everyone else. She's also wrapped up in Keisuke's past trauma, being the reason he can't really talk to girls for the most part.
But now that Hebikawa thinks she can get to Kusunoki through Keisuke by going after him and seducing him (because she's clocked Kusunoki as having latent feelings for Keisuke), she'll be trying to spend more time around Keisuke in order to "get him", which she believes will push Kusunoki into breaking her "perfect person persona" and get jealous/yandere or something that will expose that darkness she's convinced Kusunoki has inside.
But (I suspect) in the process of that, Hebikawa will start falling for Keisuke instead, which might still end up pushing Kusunoki to act on her feelings for him and thus pursue/reciprocate his crush on her.

So in essence - if I'm correct, Hebikawa is the character that serves as a foil both for Kusunoki's character (the "dark" to her perfectionism), as well as the foil to the romance between Kusunoki and Keisuke. Without any outside motivation/pressure, Kusunoki will continue running from romance, until she's forced to actually participate by virtue of the chance of losing her romance target (Keisuke) to someone else.

Also - and this is my person opinion only - but without Hebikawa, this becomes an incredibly generic romcom school manga that we've seen plenty of times before. So I personally still read this entirely because her character exists; otherwise everyone else is pretty generic and formulaic in their presentation: Kusunoki is the "perfect heroine protagonist"; Keisuke is the ML who falls for the main heroine and attempts to get her to notice him by being generally helpful in all the standard ways; Otobe is the tomboy childhood friend who's over-protective, but then falls for the ML and becomes a Losing Heroine.
Hebikawa exists outside of that dynamic, and introduces depth to the arcs of Kusunoki and Keisuke that elevates this above the bog standard fair of schoolkid-age romcom titles.
Personally who do you want to win in this story?
 
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Will we see Hebikawa sniff the handkerchief or some fucked up shit like that? :dogkek:

Also, Kusunoki is definitely behaving differently; no wonder he's confused, she's not good at talking about emotions and herself.
 
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For being flustered at first he sure got an eyeful fixing her shirt.
 
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Personally who do you want to win in this story?

If you mean romance, then personally I want Otobe to win, because I'm a big fan of the Botan Gambit and I think she's the most likeable of the cast.

But I know that Kusunoki will win because that's how these things go - and Botan is the exception that proves the rule, and I have no reason to believe the author won't default to the usual "heroine whose name's in the title takes the relationship crown" formula.


I think Hebikawa is the most interesting character of the cast, but I don't see why she would "win" a romantic relationship with Keisuke.
I hope that her character arc culminates in her growing past her desire to see Kusunoki "fall", and that she becomes more even-keeled and a bit more mature of a person through building a friendship of substance with Keisuke, and eventually others as well (beyond her "followers" that she has at present).

Kusunoki just feels like a generic shoujo heroine to me, and so I put her 3rd of 3 in my personal list. There's nothing inherently distasteful about her, but she's written as perfect and is set up to actively "win" everything kind of by default, and her ditzy "I don't get romance" + "tragic backstory" isn't compelling to me from a character-profile standpoint, compared to the other two.
 
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Not gonna happen any time soon. Unless she somehow gives up on trying to get Kusunoki to show her bad side. Unless she genuinely realizes her goal all along was wrong, I doubt MC will even give her the time of day.
That's gonna happen, through repeated interactions with Keisuke and her slowly falling in love with him.
 

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