Itsudemo Jitaku ni Kaereru Ore wa, Isekai de Gyoushounin wo Hajimemashita - Ch. 65

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This demon lord doesn't know that cooking is the reason why humans have wrinkles on their brain.
 
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You don't get character growth after assaulting, injuring, kidnapping, and likely murdering people before. You get consequences.

That would make it even worse. Not better, but worse. And if the grandma laughs it off it would show she has zero care for her family and potential consequences. Because her own flightiness, carelessness, and so on just almost got her grandchildren killed.

This is a situation where her grandchildren were about to die, and if things had even gone slightly different would have died. Which is something the author likely won't recognize. As for them the situation was "never going to go that way" and "they had a plot".
Vegeta. Piccolo. Oolong. Tenshinhan. Yamcha. Android 18. Android 16. Beerus. Hell, even Frieza. And that's just a handful of them from Dragonball, let alone other media.
 
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Quite a few of these, especially Vegeta should NOT have a redemption arc. There's a literal meme about that.

Doesn't matter whether or not you think they shouldn't have or not.
You don't get character growth after assaulting, injuring, kidnapping, and likely murdering people before. You get consequences.
Your words, which I disproved.

You can, indeed, get character growth after being a villain. Often after they've had to deal with some consequences, too.
 
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Doesn't matter whether or not you think they shouldn't have or not.

Your words, which I disproved.

You can, indeed, get character growth after being a villain. Often after they've had to deal with some consequences, too.
You don't declare you yourself have "disproven" something. That's like high fiving yourself. And no, a lot of villains DO NOT deserve redemption. In any way shape or form. Just because some authors decide to do it anyway, doesn't mean it's good or reasonable to do so. It's like saying Charles Manson would have deserved a second chance if he had "character growth" and "changed".
 
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You don't get character growth after assaulting, injuring, kidnapping, and likely murdering people before. You get consequences.
never read any good fantasy novel? Never watched Starwars either I see or Lord of the Rings or The Wticher or Dexter or Nightmare of Elm Street.

being a horrible person and having character are different things

Both the Grinch and The Lorax have character growth AFTER their horrible deeds but im sure you know better then Dr Seuss.

Please get an education.
 
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never read any good fantasy novel? Never watched Starwars either I see or Lord of the Rings or The Wticher or Dexter or Nightmare of Elm Street.

being a horrible person and having character are different things

Both the Grinch and The Lorax have character growth AFTER their horrible deeds but im sure you know better then Dr Seuss.

Please get an education.
Right, the Grinch. Who murdered, tortured, and did worse to a lot of people. Anakin was redeemed, but he still died. Him sacrificing himself was part of his redemption.
 
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Right, the Grinch. Who murdered, tortured, and did worse to a lot of people. Anakin was redeemed, but he still died. Him sacrificing himself was part of his redemption.
i love how you ignore all but the examples you think you can argue for

Death is not redemption you mouth breather and even if it was he still "Assaulting Injuring Kidnapping and murdering" Also Genocide (you forgot the sand people right) ripped civilian ships out of orbit as they tried to run and a bunch of mechanics who maintain his breathing rig because god forbid people learn how damaged it is.

The Grinch is based on the Krampus he eats kids.
 
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i love how you ignore all but the examples you think you can argue for

Death is not redemption you mouth breather and even if it was he still "Assaulting Injuring Kidnapping and murdering" Also Genocide (you forgot the sand people right) ripped civilian ships out of orbit as they tried to run and a bunch of mechanics who maintain his breathing rig because god forbid people learn how damaged it is.

The Grinch is based on the Krampus he eats kids.
Anakin redeemed himself by turning on the Emperor, breaking free from the dark side of the force and choosing the inherent goodness in himself. In doing so he sacrificed his own life. It doesn't mean the crimes he committed vanished. But he bore the consequences of them and faced them.

Nothing like that is happening here. And letting these people go on with their merry life is ridiculous.

Grinch being based on Krampus is a fan theory. In the story it was him being different and others excluding and bullying him that lead to him being isolated and hating christmas and the togetherness associated with it. He also never ate any children, never genuinely hurt anyone and changed his mind undoing the damage he had done.

Also, Krampus in actual folklore exclusively punishes naughty children. The extent he does so varies. Him eating children is extremely rare even then and mostly invented to frighten children into behaving more than anything. In the vast majority he just whips them with birch branches for being bad.
 
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Anakin redeemed himself by turning on the Emperor, breaking free from the dark side of the force and choosing the inherent goodness in himself. In doing so he sacrificed his own life. It doesn't mean the crimes he committed vanished. But he bore the consequences of them and faced them.

Nothing like that is happening here. And letting these people go on with their merry life is ridiculous.

Grinch being based on Krampus is a fan theory. In the story it was him being different and others excluding and bullying him that lead to him being isolated and hating christmas and the togetherness associated with it. He also never ate any children, never genuinely hurt anyone and changed his mind undoing the damage he had done.

Also, Krampus in actual folklore exclusively punishes naughty children. The extent he does so varies. Him eating children is extremely rare even then and mostly invented to frighten children into behaving more than anything. In the vast majority he just whips them with birch branches for being bad.
Goalposts moved by you 2

Were not talking about redemption but for the sake of your shitty argument. your saying that throwing one man down a pit redeems YEARS of child murder Slaughter Genocide force choking his own guys killing mechanics just for working on his asthmatic ass he had no consequences you dipstick he threw a guy off a railing and then died thats the opposite of facing consequences.


im talking about the actual book not the 200+ retarded remakes that hollywood shits out that try to make you feel bad for the guy who BARE MINIMUM committed grand larceny and again faced no consequences


no retard Krampus eats kids regardless of morality this is the one thing old texts agree on any reports otherwise came later presumably to keep misbehaving kids in line

still ignoring the rest of my examples i see.
Go away with your shitty fanfic dude.
 

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