Kimi wa Yotsuba no Clover - Vol. 8 Ch. 73 - Someone's Testament - Page Two

[Kaito57]

Damn, that ABSOLUTE RET*RD was lucky Clover only reserved his massive hateboner for Uichi, because otherwise...

"Yes, I need all your power... now, get in the van and take off your pants while I prepare the baby oil."

 

[Xenophacilus]

Ive seen 3 families in this manga and not one of them are decent

except maybe the grandma shes just unfortunately old with dementia

I think Rei's mother is innocent as well

 

[ReasonableSuspicion]

This might be a "friend who's too woke" moment, but I don't get any satisfaction from this. He's clearly a broken person who's delusions got reaffirmed by someone trying to manipulate him. Sure, he did awful things, but seeing a person who's clearly mentally unwell suffer still makes me feel bad.

 

[Kagimizu]

Gotta love the sheer amount of empathy in these comments. Like, let's just ignore the fact that this kid was manipulated by an adult who played on his insecurities and self-loathing since he was a grade schooler, providing him the first and only meaningful positive reinforcement he had received for most if not his entire life. I mean... fuck's sake people, think back to when you were in elementary school or even middle school. If you think you can honestly say you didn't do any stupid shit as a child, you're either lying, delusional, or amnesiac. And that's without the active, malicious manipulations of an adult.

Rei, frankly, never had a real chance. His father abusively belittled him and his mother, his mother coped by joining a cult of personality that only amplified Rei's belief that people were either "worthless" or "amazing", and he internalized the notion that he was "worthless". He couldn't see any value in himself, so he couldn't understand why Uichi saw any value in him and assumed the worst. Which Clover proceeded to cruelly, maliciously validate and take advantage of to convince Rei- a child- to help make Uichi's life miserable.

As the saying goes; "hate isn't born, it's taught." And for the majority of his life, Rei was taught to hate. First himself by his own father, then Uichi by Clover. And yet, once he started experiencing such vicious bullying in high school and had his family ripped apart by circumstances outside his control, he started empathizing with Uichi. Which, need a remind you, is a hell of a lot more than Yamada or Rikawa ever did. But before he even had the chance to try and make amends- much less even figuring out how- he's put in a position where he either has to keep working with Clover, kill himself, or have his last living relative brutally murdered. And we all see how that turned out.

The kid was manipulated and abused pretty much his entire life. And now, at all of... what, sixteen? He's dead. Forced to kill himself to save his grandmother's life. A teenager is dead because he dared to second-guess the hatred he had been taught, deprived of any chance to make amends or turn his life around. He's not a villain whose death people should be cackling with glee over. He's another victim of Clover and their machinations, and one to be pitied.

 

[Koichi_Hirose_The_Goat]

Thanks for the chapter
Bro, it's a more Lot easy Just he kill the "Clover" first

 

[CommanderYammarkX6]

Gotta love the sheer amount of empathy in these comments. Like, let's just ignore the fact that this kid was manipulated by an adult who played on his insecurities and self-loathing since he was a grade schooler, providing him the first and only meaningful positive reinforcement he had received for most if not his entire life. I mean... fuck's sake people, think back to when you were in elementary school or even middle school. If you think you can honestly say you didn't do any stupid shit as a child, you're either lying, delusional, or amnesiac. And that's without the active, malicious manipulations of an adult.

Rei, frankly, never had a real chance. His father abusively belittled him and his mother, his mother coped by joining a cult of personality that only amplified Rei's belief that people were either "worthless" or "amazing", and he internalized the notion that he was "worthless". He couldn't see any value in himself, so he couldn't understand why Uichi saw any value in him and assumed the worst. Which Clover proceeded to cruelly, maliciously validate and take advantage of to convince Rei- a child- to help make Uichi's life miserable.

As the saying goes; "hate isn't born, it's taught." And for the majority of his life, Rei was taught to hate. First himself by his own father, then Uichi by Clover. And yet, once he started experiencing such vicious bullying in high school and had his family ripped apart by circumstances outside his control, he started empathizing with Uichi. Which, need a remind you, is a hell of a lot more than Yamada or Rikawa ever did. But before he even had the chance to try and make amends- much less even figuring out how- he's put in a position where he either has to keep working with Clover, kill himself, or have his last living relative brutally murdered. And we all see how that turned out.

The kid was manipulated and abused pretty much his entire life. And now, at all of... what, sixteen? He's dead. Forced to kill himself to save his grandmother's life. A teenager is dead because he dared to second-guess the hatred he had been taught, deprived of any chance to make amends or turn his life around. He's not a villain whose death people should be cackling with glee over. He's another victim of Clover and their machinations, and one to be pitied.

You can pity and empathize with shitty people all you want based on their upbringing or situation (e.g. most of Batman's villains were 'victims' of society) but you should never excuse their shitty actions especially for what Rei has caused to an extent which was just complete malice not just playful mischief that real life kids would do. Unless it was complete mind control or he was initially forced to work with Closer under duress, he's responsible for his actions towards Uichi.

And yet, once he started experiencing such vicious bullying in high school and had his family ripped apart by circumstances outside his control, he started empathizing with Uichi. Which, need a remind you, is a hell of a lot more than Yamada or Rikawa ever did.

Yeah, just ignore that Uichi was assaulted and sexually blackmailed (see Ch. 3 Page 5 & 12). From the looks of it, they are even but Uichi continued going to school while enduring the bullying and Rei just became a shut-in.

 

[Raydnt]

So whatever secret that he saw was so incredibly messed up that he chose to kill himself rather than continuing to work for them.

Well it was probably evidence that he was being fed lies about uchi the whole time

 

[Graywing]

Thanks for the chapter!!!

 

[Shrimperor]

If you think you can honestly say you didn't do any stupid shit as a child, you're either lying, delusional, or amnesiac.

I can say i didn't lead someone to wanting to off themselves

 

[Wanderer00]

Darn, Clover really manipulated Rei from day one....kid never had a chance.

I cannot take any satisfaction from this, I pity the poor bastard.

And wow, Clover is more vile than i thought, actually being willing to kill people unrelated to Yotsuha and Uichi!
Whoever this guy is, they are really dangerous...

Where the hell are all the adults in this?! Why haven't they noticed anything??

Just what the hell did Rei see...?

 

[Georgesmorge]

it's his dad btw

 

[BanzaiYuri]

Oh no, how tragic, anyway I wonder what the chud found.

 

[username69360420]

Womp womp

 

[AcX]

Rest in piss bozo

 

[TheEnd478]

I can say i didn't lead someone to wanting to off themselves

Yep, agree with you on this! The "Empathy" crowd sure seems to forget he KNOWS what Uchi is going through, largely BECAUSE OF HIM, yet he continues to believe he isn't wrong and Uchi is scum.......and a reminder to THOSE people that "He thought Uchi was scum LONG BEFORE Clover showed up!" All Clover did was "convince him" his opinion of Uchi was in the right! Even when faced with WORSE harships he KNOWS Uchi is going through, he STILL clung to "Uchi is a bastard, he was only NICE to me back then to make a fool out of me, I'm NOT IN THE WRONG!" (That last part is WHY he triples down when the guilt kicks in! If he admits that what he did to Uchi is wrong, then he accepts he's a HORRIBLE PERSON and his already low opinion of himself

I think MY lack of empathy for him is "he is slightly THE PAST ME!" I was a bully at some point, a loser who then became a bully to someone who didn't deserve it! I still feel guilt for that and ONLY changed my ways when I almost got in trouble! Imagine thinking bullies are INVINCIBLE and can get away with anything......and then when you bully and your victim cries to the adults....they actually do something! I threw my former bullies who I became "friends" with when I became a BULLY to their new victim under the bus! Because I was a "good kid" and my "tenure" lasted two months! It was EASY to play myself off as "Not one of them!" Avoiding getting in trouble! Even the VICTIM who was good guy believe I actually was looking out for him (to "impress" the assholes, I passed a note to him expressing his "Jumping when gym class hits" I felt SO proud of myself.....till he told the teachers, then I was scared my mom would find out.....and then I felt HORRIBLE for the shit show fully, ESPECIALLY when he "fell" for my lie about "warning him" which wasn't a warning! I'm not proud of myself then and still ain't even AFTER he has forgiven me for it! More I can't forgive myself for "giving in" and becoming what I HATE, and felt all my FUTURE BULLIES are a result of KARMA! It DID assure I became a bullies WORSE FUCKING NIGHTMARE if they target me or mine though!)

He's had those SAME MOMENTS as me to acknowledge what he did as wrong! But he double down! I'm happy I got scared straight LOL! But it took LEARNING Clover's secret and Clovers "three outcomes" to finally realize his mistake! I wonder if Clover WOULD have killed his grandmother in Retalation (I doubt it was exposing Clover's lies on Uchi! I think it more revealed something VERY important about Clover, the fact he threatened DEATH on a Dementia ridden old woman, not kill HIM, but his GRANDMOTHER! Yeah I'm even MORE interested in knowing who they are now (We do know they are OLDER then Rei. So I can't fathom it being Fuu despite the evidence! Clover might not be one person! Just adding that as a possiblity!)

 

[TheEnd478]

I think Rei's mother is innocent as well

True, I do feel bad about her situation and eventual death trying to care for her mother and son by herself (Wonder where his father is! Likely still being a worthless existance I suppose! Or knowing him he started another family and fucked that up royally as well!)

 

[drepurp]

Karma is undefeated

 

[cybeast21]

It's obviously the Butler

The Butler always did it

 

[bradboy102]

Another +1 to my theory that it's Yotsuha's brother.

This someone would need to have access to the school to know the goings-on therein. This person is clearly tall and an "amazing person," but it can't be Yotauha's mom, because she dies and the person is still around.

Here's my theory:

Assuming Yotsuha's family all have some time-related power; the brother either has time-travel or clairvoyance, as perhaps their mother had. The brother attributes their mother's imminent death to Uichi because he's the only thing that gave Yotsuha hope to resist being broken by her mom. We know how sadistic her mom is. Knowing that he can't stop his mother's death, he instead begins getting revenge on Uichi in some sick way.

What's so special about Yotsuha's family anyway? Is it ever truly stated why they're so prominent? That's why I think they all have some sort of time power that allowed them to exploit the future.

Anyway, seeing how cruel the mystery person is toward Rei reaffirms to me that only someone capable of such heartlessness could be the mastermind, in which case the brother has learned cruel behavior from the very best.

 

[KCfr149]

Damn I just really want to know who exactly is the mastermind now.