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another slop has dropped
he's allergic to girls
she's a predator
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Hmm so do they have history with eachother that he forgot or something. Regardless im down
 
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Bro... women don't remember promises you made like 10-15 years ago, unless you actually keep in contact with them.
Even in fiction, you have to really stretch the imagination. I'm writing a story where the MC has to wait 4 years until he can meet the FMC again, and I had to REALLY make their interaction stand out to the point the FMC cared enough. Even then, it took 4 years after that for them to fully actualize their feelings for each other.
It's just not how you write women.
 
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As a British Asian person, I’m keeping this regardless of how predictable the story is!
 
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This kind of trope is like bread. I'll never get enough!
 
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Waste of quite good art on a slop story. The usual male MC with zero exposure and ability to handle girls, the usual girl who is forever deeply in love with the dude because he's been a decent person a decade ago. Heavens beware that any relationship ever actually has to be developed, that would be effort.
 
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Waste of quite good art on a slop story. The usual male MC with zero exposure and ability to handle girls, the usual girl who is forever deeply in love with the dude because he's been a decent person a decade ago. Heavens beware that any relationship ever actually has to be developed, that would be effort.

I mean you're not wrong, but what do you expect from a shounen manga/anime. Its aimed at younger teenage boys who are stigmatized for their hobby.

Its why you usually see loser/otaku x Popular girl in a lot of these rom com series. "Loser" describes both the author and the target audience, and the series are fantasies of them getting with pretty girls in class who would never look their way irl.

Dont get me wrong im kinda tired of the tropes, and how little effort a lot of the authors put in, but you dont really need to put the effort in when just the premise will draw the eyes of a lot of lonely young teenagers. This is why i tend to just stick with Seinen. There's still plenty of slop manga there ofc, but generally the loser protag trope is much less prominent.
 
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I mean you're not wrong, but what do you expect from a shounen manga/anime. Its aimed at younger teenage boys who are stigmatized for their hobby.

Its why you usually see loser/otaku x Popular girl in a lot of these rom com series. "Loser" describes both the author and the target audience, and the series are fantasies of them getting with pretty girls in class who would never look their way irl.

Dont get me wrong im kinda tired of the tropes, and how little effort a lot of the authors put in, but you dont really need to put the effort in when just the premise will draw the eyes of a lot of lonely young teenagers. This is why i tend to just stick with Seinen. There's still plenty of slop manga there ofc, but generally the loser protag trope is much less prominent.
You are making it sound like a shounen story has to be shallow trope slop. Like there are no shounen stories out there where a relationship is developed around proper characters, where MMCs are more than self-insert blank canvasses. Like the author had no choice but do it like this.

I think that's giving the authors and publishers too easy an out. At the very least things should be said as it is: writing trope slop is a conscious decision that they made, not because the genre requires it, but because like junk food they can crank out generic garbage with minimal variation and that shit still sells reliably.

Meanwhile writing a story with some depth and actual characters has the potential to land you a highly acclaimed hit. Stories like Sono Bisque Doll or Kaoru Hana show that you can even run the loser/outsider + popular girl formula and still get something that isn't slop. But that also has much more potential at financially flopping if it doesn't generate a hype.

So of course they decide to do the financially responsible thing and go for the low risk, low but reliable reward option instead of risking their investments with a more volatile quality story. But again, we should call that what it is: a conscious decision by author and publisher.
 
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It's like reading a fanfic based on another manga that's based on another manga..
 
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You are making it sound like a shounen story has to be shallow trope slop. Like there are no shounen stories out there where a relationship is developed around proper characters, where MMCs are more than self-insert blank canvasses. Like the author had no choice but do it like this.

I think that's giving the authors and publishers too easy an out. At the very least things should be said as it is: writing trope slop is a conscious decision that they made, not because the genre requires it, but because like junk food they can crank out generic garbage with minimal variation and that shit still sells reliably.

Meanwhile writing a story with some depth and actual characters has the potential to land you a highly acclaimed hit. Stories like Sono Bisque Doll or Kaoru Hana show that you can even run the loser/outsider + popular girl formula and still get something that isn't slop. But that also has much more potential at financially flopping if it doesn't generate a hype.

So of course they decide to do the financially responsible thing and go for the low risk, low but reliable reward option instead of risking their investments with a more volatile quality story. But again, we should call that what it is: a conscious decision by author and publisher.

Im not making apologies for these authors, or saying that they NEED to make low effort stories, im just pointing out that low effort tropey stories are still incredibly successful so its obvious why so many dont bother putting in the effort. Thats just the way it is.

Its funny you mention Sono Bisque Doll and Kaoru hana though, even though they're both marketed toward men, their authors are women. They have much more in common with Shojo/Joesei stories than your average shounen story. Hell Sono Bisque Doll isnt even shounen, its seinen, which goes back to my point about seinen stories having much higher quality rom com writing.

I wouldnt say either of those stories is actually loser x popular girl either. The popular part is true, but neither gojo or Rintarou are anything approaching losers. Rintarou has a whole group of friends, and Gojo has an entire hobby/job/dream that he's working towards.
 

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