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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 45 - Wandering Through The Night

    So I forgot that part about Yuki, but I also mostly think it'll remain an unknown. But in that case she's the "title" girl and seems to be a major driver of the plot. The pedestal Yuu is putting Hikari on is a problem, not an accurate reflection of what Hikari wants. Haru and Yuki say as much...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    Are you trolling? Thinking someone isn't attracted to you b/c they're not interested in having sex w/ you is totally normal behavior, especially if that person hasn't told you they're attracted to you. Healthy even. Hypersexuality is when someone is having a lot of sex/thoughts of sex/etc as a...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    But the art would still show one or two booths or someone in a yukata or kimono or mask to indicate in the art that this is the festival - basically a fade out of the first panel of 17, which itself shows how Maruto indicates that characters are at a festival. Which would imply that Aya is...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 45 - Wandering Through The Night

    I agree that she's kinda Yami's foil, but I see that more as Yuki probably having a healthier relationship with sex than Aya. Yuki seems to have a confidence in her sexuality - the way she talks about sex and is flirting with Yuu - that it's implied that she's experienced. Aya on the other hand...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    This is 30+ chapters before he confesses in 107, so of course she's insecure about his romantic attraction to her - they're not in any way shape or form a couple yet. This also gets resolved by them talking out their feelings in 107. Which also this example actively disproves that Marin is...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    No, the middle panel is an everyday scene - there's nothing like a yukata or festival booth or booth prize in the background to indicate a festival. https://mangadex.org/chapter/b3f1db8c-5c68-478a-a33e-5dc665380ab0/5 That "shopping and dates" is what she thinks normal girls do in relationships...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    So your claim is basically it's half subjunctive. That "As long as you are asking, I would go" includes a past where Yuu has asked her out and she has gone. If that were true, presumably Yuu would know from all the previous times he's asked her out and she's gone. So why is Aya saying he doesn't...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 45 - Wandering Through The Night

    I agree in a sort of flipped way - Yami is attracted to his hopeful naive idiot not broken side, while Hikari is attracted to his heartbroken never gonna love again side. It's why he's "dawn", right? Which I dunno that it's vicious or virtuous so much as skirting the line between healthy and...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 45 - Wandering Through The Night

    I agree that I don't think Hikari cares that Yuu isn't a virgin, but think Hikari is attracted to broken and that's why she only started liking Yuu after he broke up w/ Aya. So Aya is right that she's why Hikari likes Yuu, but not b/c of the sex & that's why Hikari tells Aya to not denigrate Yuu...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    The trace of ambiguity I was talking about was: A) Yuu doesn't say who paid for the tickets in any translation B) Yuu says Aya wanted to go to this movie B) two translations indicate Aya paid and one indicates Yuu paid therefore, it's reasonable for me to state that it's not conclusive that...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    🤨 If you're gonna quote my own words, keep the next part: Which yeah, I think all the translations are pretty consistent that this is supposed to be subjunctive and the art supports that interpretation. But has no handholding walk in a crowd scenes, which are a staple of every romance ever...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    I think the way the manga translates it is one way of conveying how Japanese does subjunctive via conditional, where "as long as" can map to "if" and it's use of would/I'd, the novel another, the Russian translation a third. And the art a fourth - I think Yom's conveying a dream like wish state...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 45 - Wandering Through The Night

    She told him she hates liars. Yuu clearly understands what she meant b/c he told the whole story to Haru & Yuki. Which Yuu's ability to go next door and talk to Hikari is categorically not the same as Aya disappearing from Yuu's life. Hikari says "no, not true, you cared for each other"...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 45 - Wandering Through The Night

    I think the way Maruto is playing w/ themes here, Hikari's demand for honesty is supposed to be a brave/bright contrast to the cowardice/shadows that plagued Aya and Yuu's relationship. Whether Maruto implemented it effectively is a whole different discussion, but he's structuring this for...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    Use of the subjunctive tense mood. She's doing her "playful carefree cool girl" thing that he doesn't know how seriously to take and he knows she had wanted to go to the movie. B/c either Yuu flags it when he thinks she's not being serious or there are some sort of tonal markers. Yeah, I...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    The second translation is what my grandma would mean when she'd say that idiom. Which "fall apart" is the connotation of that "break up", which goes back to translation is hard man. Which I wanna make clear that none of this back and forth is intended as a dig on this translation. Every...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    There was absolutely nothing stopping Yuu from inviting Aya to do the "normal" things that would've maybe helped her feel like a "normal" girl. No that Aya thinks he's w/ her b/c of the sex she's always initiating. Which also Aya's thinking she "bound him w/ her body" Which, as we've...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    So I updated my translation b/c I don't like translating the Russian idiom that way b/c I don't think that's accurate. All of which to say that we're arguing about translations of a language neither of us speak, which means I'm gonna defer first to what feels most consistent w/ the art, second...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.5 - My Happy Date ("Wholesome" Version)

    Which means he could've moved on to a whole different girl. And you ignore that she's dead serious when she says she'll always be his "comfort woman" when they start dating. And that by the end of the relationship, she still doesn't think what they had was a "normal" relationship. Which Aya...
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    Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 45 - Wandering Through The Night

    I think Hikari demanding honesty is supposed to be bravery, in contrast to Aya's cowardice in hiding her feelings and Yuu's cowardice in avoiding conflict. Kinda think Maruto punishes Hikari a bit for this by having her virtuous befriending of Aya bite her so badly.
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