A Banished Sage's Progress to Discovering the World: The Story of What Happened When I Freed Myself from My Childhood Friend - Ch. 9 - Alice's Feelin…

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So.... Old Leticia probably lovable
It's quite inconsequential if a little girl was lovable, apart from familial love. She changed when growing up. A hero should be the best equipped one to fight demons, so I won't show any understanding even if it was claimed that the personality change was due to some demonic curse. Get the curse removed, duh. If she has a curse but doesn't get it fixed, it means she doesn't mind, which means she considers her new personality just fine and proper. So, it's, in fact, her true personality.
 
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It's quite inconsequential if a little girl was lovable, apart from familial love. She changed when growing up. A hero should be the best equipped one to fight demons, so I won't show any understanding even if it was claimed that the personality change was due to some demonic curse. Get the curse removed, duh. If she has a curse but doesn't get it fixed, it means she doesn't mind, which means she considers her new personality just fine and proper. So, it's, in fact, her true personality.
Well
considering the priestess got brainwashed and no one suspect it, i won't say this manga is perfect
But yeah probably her feeling of wanting to protect MC is warped by that, is what the author want to ( her true personality being one to protect mc that is )
 
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But yeah probably her feeling of wanting to protect MC is warped by that, is what the author want to ( her true personality being one to protect mc that is )
Anything can be taken over the top. In RL the most common corruption of protective sense are the helicopter parents, who can ruin a child's life well into the adulthood. However, it's not something parents can't stop doing. They just need to make the decision and reform their ways, maybe even consult some expert. Same with Leticia here. She doesn't want to change, so she obviously wouldn't want to get rid of the curse either because the curse aligns with her true feelings, assuming there really is a concrete curse from an external source.
 
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Anything can be taken over the top. In RL the most common corruption of protective sense are the helicopter parents, who can ruin a child's life well into the adulthood. However, it's not something parents can't stop doing. They just need to make the decision and reform their ways, maybe even consult some expert. Same with Leticia here. She doesn't want to change, so she obviously wouldn't want to get rid of the curse either because the curse aligns with her true feelings, assuming there really is a concrete curse from an external source.
Did you even read the prior chapters? She literally had a shade appear from her shadow and stab her through the fucking chest while she was thinking about why she wanted to become a Hero in the first place (protect Haru), warping her thoughts into locking him up.

There is a very literal brainwashing curse on her, one that blocks off her memories and activates to more strongly 'evilize' her if she gets contemplative.
 
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I think when killing that demon long ago, both got cursed, not only the hero. Now i know why the eyes different than in flashback for both mc and hero. For the curse itself idk, maybe to make them separate to each other(?)
Haru's eyes have always been slit pupils, even in the child flashback where Leticia's weren't. I think he's probably some sort of higher class Demon or monster himself.
 
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Did you even read the prior chapters? She literally had a shade appear from her shadow and stab her through the fucking chest while she was thinking about why she wanted to become a Hero in the first place (protect Haru), warping her thoughts into locking him up.

There is a very literal brainwashing curse on her, one that blocks off her memories and activates to more strongly 'evilize' her if she gets contemplative.
I've read a lot of manga. There are symbolic, metaphoric things in the drawings as well, since drawings are all a manga can contain, in addition to a little bit of text, though usually very little narrative text in manga that work properly, because the images are supposed to carry the story, not text stuffed in boxes. But maybe not in this naive manga, that's true.

Whether there's a very literal brainwashing curse on her or not, is yet to be seen for sure. What you claim is just your theory.
 
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I've read a lot of manga. There are symbolic, metaphoric things in the drawings as well, since drawings are all a manga can contain, in addition to a little bit of text, though usually very little narrative text in manga that work properly, because the images are supposed to carry the story, not text stuffed in boxes. But maybe not in this naive manga, that's true.

Whether there's a very literal brainwashing curse on her or not, is yet to be seen for sure. What you claim is just your theory.
https://mangadex.org/chapter/99873418-751e-4f29-b571-ef30bd52fd11/3

Page 3. If you think that's 'metaphorical' and not a literal curse controlling her thoughts, then I just don't know what to say, except that I think you're reading a little too much into it.

"Ever since I defeated the demon."

There's a reason that specific phrase is used. (It's because that's when she was cursed, or put under the spell, whatever its nature. Perhaps she didn't even really beat the demon and it possessed her instead, who knows.)

Especially considering that
we then see a concrete case of someone having their personality altered by magic, in what seems to be quite similar fashion.
 
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There's a reason that specific phrase is used. (It's because that's when she was cursed, or put under the spell, whatever its nature. Perhaps she didn't even really beat the demon and it possessed her instead, who knows.)
For what it's worth, I do think there is a curse, or something similar, but that's mostly because she's a fool as well, just like the MC. She's also a miserable hero, if she should be called a hero at all. Imagine being cursed for years without trying to do anything about it, and the curse makes you practically torture your best friend, until the friend hits the road. And you still don't try to get yourself examined by a professional, like a priest or whatever it would be in that world. That attitude is actually what makes me think that even if it is a curse, or equivalent, it's not really anything much. It's just her basic personality slightly boosted. She must have been rotten from the beginning, but the curse merely pushed her a little, over a line that shouldn't have been crossed.
 
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It's just her basic personality slightly boosted. She must have been rotten from the beginning, but the curse merely pushed her a little, over a line that shouldn't have been crossed.
I dunno about that. People in this world seem to be kind of idiots to begin with, given they didn't notice... well, you know what I'm talking about if you've read further, until it was pretty much literally was staring them in the face.

I can totally buy that she wouldn't be aware of it herself. If it can blank out her memories on certain things, it can definitely hide itself from her awareness given that it was preventing her from recalling her reason for being a hero (and putting big headaches on her, then 'stabbing' her when she went too far.) She's also specifically noted to 'act super nice in front of everyone,' so you can't even really say that the people around her should have noticed it. It's specifically directed at Haru (who is kind of a dumbass.) The way she acts around others is probably her 'real' self.

Normally curses that affect your personality or mental state aren't noticed by the person afflicted by them. I can give her a pass for that.

The one thing I'd say might be a little bit of an 'oversight?' or a hint to something else is her telling Haru that he should die for her as her shield. That probably shouldn't be the result of a curse amplifying her desire to protect him to yandere levels? Or maybe it was 'protect him by preventing people finding out about his power... so he should die first so no one ever finds out.'
 
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I dunno about that. People in this world seem to be kind of idiots to begin with, given they didn't notice...

Yeah, it's really unfortunate style of writing because no matter how much we try to analyse a character's behavior, it doesn't matter if characters all act stupidly.

I can totally buy that she wouldn't be aware of it herself. If it can blank out her memories on certain things, it can definitely hide itself from her awareness given that it was preventing her from recalling her reason for being a hero (and putting big headaches on her, then 'stabbing' her when she went too far.) She's also specifically noted to 'act super nice in front of everyone,' so you can't even really say that the people around her should have noticed it. It's specifically directed at Haru (who is kind of a dumbass.) The way she acts around others is probably her 'real' self.

Normally curses that affect your personality or mental state aren't noticed by the person afflicted by them. I can give her a pass for that.

The problem is that in a world with mind-affecting curses and other spells, especially adventurers should be aware of the danger. Kind of like in our world if you step on a dirty nail, you will probably want to check if your tetanus vaccination is in effect. If you get attacked and bitten by a fox acting really strange, you will run to the hospital to get a rabies vaccination. Everybody knows these things because they are real threats in our world. Similarly in the world of this work, people should be wary of curses and whatnot. If you suddenly are blocked from remembering important stuff and get headaches when you try, it should set off some alarms. Allies would also look for such signs and get the affected to a place where curses are removed.

The one thing I'd say might be a little bit of an 'oversight?' or a hint to something else is her telling Haru that he should die for her as her shield. That probably shouldn't be the result of a curse amplifying her desire to protect him to yandere levels? Or maybe it was 'protect him by preventing people finding out about his power... so he should die first so no one ever finds out.'

Good thinking, it does sound awfully specific, but if you do think it from the perspective of Leticia not wanting Haru to live in a world without her, possibly getting snatched by some other woman, it would make sense. Just quite yandere twisted.
 
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Yeah, it's really unfortunate style of writing because no matter how much we try to analyse a character's behavior, it doesn't matter if characters all act stupidly.



The problem is that in a world with mind-affecting curses and other spells, especially adventurers should be aware of the danger. Kind of like in our world if you step on a dirty nail, you will probably want to check if your tetanus vaccination is in effect. If you get attacked and bitten by a fox acting really strange, you will run to the hospital to get a rabies vaccination. Everybody knows these things because they are real threats in our world. Similarly in the world of this work, people should be wary of curses and whatnot. If you suddenly are blocked from remembering important stuff and get headaches when you try, it should set off some alarms. Allies would also look for such signs and get the affected to a place where curses are removed.
Both of these sort of go together. I do agree that perhaps there are a few warning signs, but it's somewhat possible to excuse it for two main reason.

1. Haru and her seem to have grown up in a pretty rural environment and may not have received the best education.
2. The much bigger one.
The main church of a major city had its priestess 180 her personality, and even when her friend Ange found out she was trying to destroy the damn city, it took a LONG while for them to finally suspect 'mind control.' It was basically the last thing they thought of, which shows that it's not considered a 'regular' risk or possibility in this world, even by the group that you'd expect to be among the most knowledgeable, the church.

Even then, they might have only gotten to suspect that in the first place due to all the shadiness, with Alice already having her mind on 'Forbidden Magic' due to the appearance copying thing.

We saw that Ange was doing a shitload of studying for her Saint training and seems to have been pretty damn good at it too, that combined with her upper class education means that if it was a danger people were generally aware of, of all people she should have been quick to figure it out considering she both knew her friend's original personality the best and witnessed the total divergence from that.

All in all, the flaw of 'not really considering mind control reasons' is at the very least something baked into the setting itself, rather than something I think you can reasonably blame Leticia herself for. I think she's purely a victim.

Good thinking, it does sound awfully specific, but if you do think it from the perspective of Leticia not wanting Haru to live in a world without her, possibly getting snatched by some other woman, it would make sense. Just quite yandere twisted.

Yeah, I suppose it could be yandere tendencies, but I was more so thinking that it was the real goal of whatever put that curse on her slipping out. Him being dead. If we think of it as 'amplifying and twisting otherwise positive emotions', it clearly seems to be warping Leticia's desire to protect, not her romantic interest. All the rest is about hiding him, locking him up, etc, so saying for him to 'die as her shield' is kind of the opposite of that motive. Maybe it does both though, idk.
 
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Thats quite sad for the hero girl honestly, she truly loves him but the demon is just brainwashing her hard. I dont usually dig harems but i hope she and the mc end up together or her being part of his harem.
 
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Lol, I don't blame Haru for getting Leticia locked up in there. I wouldn't want to put up with that bullshit after all the hell she put him through.
 
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I was wrong?
I think that's not a loli dragon, but Leticia calls her a "little girl", so idk.
But for the dragon not to be a loli or a milf is certainly... a TWIST
No bruh you weren't wrong per se....it would've been among thos two opitons but considering how the dragon's personality in the LN/WN this is what the artist went with the optimal drawing...a prideful tomboyish chara
 
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Stop being biased against the hero.
Isn't Haru to blame too? Calls himself a childhood friend but obviously fails to see his beloved friend changing. He is also partially at fault.
He keeps on going about how she changed and is a bitch to him while never thinking why she became like that.
Well he is pretty dumb so idk.
 

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