Class no Daikirai na Joshi to Kekkon Suru Koto ni Natta - Vol. 4 Ch. 22.1

[MangaDex]

 

[MewOne]

Whoa I didn't know this is christmast today thanks for the massive update!

 

[MOLFAR]

Thanks for the translation

 

[DylanGTech]

All of the Houjou adults talk just like me. Now if only I were rich and powerful as them...

Oh well, my children shall be raised to seek aristocracy, and my eldest son to succeed me as patriarch of my dynasty.

Perseverance, hard work, and thirst for power!

 

[PGNHRYBC]

Oh mama....

 

[LecherousLeech]

Learning a language in 1 night? That’s isekai levels of OP.

 

[thedinowarrior]

Now we're cooking, some actually decent characters

 

[Tony_Mushah]

My favorite frame .

 

[Tony_Mushah]

So How he learn a language in one single night?

 

[rudezki]

Whoa, suddenly hot aunt.

 

[KuroViLolitannia]

Loli.ending.is.true.ending

 

[stryke105]

So How he learn a language in one single night?

when you read the manga, it becomes far more understandable

 

[lfscruz]

Fucking hell I didn't have to see that, but gotta please the pedos I guess, huh author?

 

[TheBlackGamer]

Fucking hell I didn't have to see that, but gotta please the pedos I guess, huh author?

You do realize all the characters here are under age right? You counting yourself in that equation?

 

[lfscruz]

You do realize all the characters here are under age right? You counting yourself in that equation?

Woah, woah, woah. Hold on a minute, what's this assumption that I'm pleased with the undressing of the other underage girls?

Yeah I'm not as bothered by them, but that's because it's such a staple of the genre that have to just roll my eyes and move on to the next page, otherwise I'm never finishing a single chapter in the romance genre. What's not a staple of the genre is a drawing of an actual actual actual child undressing taking up half a page.

 

[TheBlackGamer]

Woah, woah, woah. Hold on a minute, what's this assumption that I'm pleased with the undressing of the other underage girls?

Yeah I'm not as bothered by them, but that's because it's such a staple of the genre that have to just roll my eyes and move on to the next page, otherwise I'm never finishing a single chapter in the romance genre. What's not a staple of the genre is a drawing of an actual actual actual child undressing taking up half a page.

Dude rule of thumb. Petite or small does not instantly mean child. Especially in Japan. Context matters.

Implying the reason artist drew this panel "for the pedos" is pretty disingenuous since this is an adaptation basing the scene from the original source material and he's adapting the scene to manga form. Not to mention this is just a drawing and she isn't real. One does not equal the real thing. She's just a character from a story not a real person.

Also I never said or assumed you were pleased with undressing of other underage characters just using your standards against you. Just showing some of your hypocrisy.

 

[lfscruz]

Also I never said or assumed you were pleased with undressing of other underage characters just using your standards against you. Just showing some hypocrisy.

There are two scenarios in which it would make sense that you "used my standards against me":

1- I explicitly show contradictory behavior to my speech
2- I implied contradictory behavior to my speech

Since 1 clearly isn't true, we have to go for 2. Rereading my original comment, I didn't find anything that could imply I like all that other shit, so if I didn't explicitly or implicitly show any contradictions, where is the hypocrisy? You have to have assumed something for any semblance of hypocrisy to exist.

Implying the reason artist drew this panel "for the pedos" is pretty disingenuous since this is an adaptation basing the scene from the original source material and he's adapting the scene to manga form.

That doesn't make it any less "for the pedos", does it though? If the original author did write that scene in detail, my criticism extends to them as well.

Dude rule of thumb. Petite or small does not instantly mean child. Especially in Japan. Context matters.

Except that it is a child, she's not a petite woman, she is a child, that behaves and looks like a child. Japan is an important peace for the puzzle though, the context is Japan has a horrendous problem with pedophilia that is normalized by their media.

Not to mention this is just a drawing and she isn't real. One does not equal the real thing. She's just a character from a story not a real person.

Yeah, and? The goal of fiction is not to keep it in fantasy world, it is to actually affect the audience here in the real world, for better or for worse. Yes these are fictional characters, but that's doesn't mean pedophiles aren't reeeal happy with that panel.

Anyway, all I said was "I don't like seeing a little child getting undressed in a clearly sexualized manner" and for some reason you took an issue with it, so I don't think anything I'll say beyond this will have an effect. Tbf nothing you'll say can make me dislike that panel less too, so peace ✌️.

Edit: spelling and rewording

 

[TheBlackGamer]

There are two scenarios in which it would make sense that you "used my standards against me":

1- I explicitly show contradictory behavior to my speech
2- I implied contradictory behavior to my speech

Since 1 clearly isn't true, we have to go for 2. Rereading my original comment, I didn't find anything that could imply I like all that other shit, so if I didn't explicitly or implicitly show any contradictions, where is the hypocrisy? You have to have assumed something for any semblance of hypocrisy to exist.


That doesn't make it any less "for the pedos", does it though? If the original author did write that scene in detail, my criticism extends to them as well.


Except that it is a child, she's not a petite woman, she is a child, that behaves and looks like a child. Japan is an important peace for the puzzle though, the context is Japan has a horrendous problem with pedophilia that is normalized by their media.


Yeah, and? The goal of fiction is not to keep it in fantasy world, it is to actually affect the audience here in the real world, for better or for worse. Yes these are fictional characters, but that's doesn't mean pedophiles aren't reeeal happy with that panel.

Anyway, all I said was "I don't like seeing a little child getting undressed in a clearly sexualized manner" and for some reason you took an issue with it, so I don't think anything I'll say beyond this will have an effect. Tbf nothing you'll say can make me dislike that panel less too, so peace ✌️.

Edit: spelling and rewording

First off I don't have issues with you disliking the panel. I have issues with your blanket stating that it's pedophilia when it's just art you dislike. That's fine but to just say the author drew that panel for pedos is just disingenuous assumptions. Is why I brought up the fact it's an adaptation

Your hypocrisy comes from the fact you make excuses when other underage characters are undressed despite being underage. You claim to "roll your eyes and move on" but only this specific example do you take exception. Either none of it is okay or all of it is okay. You are correct I made assumptions on hypocrisy incorrectly but your later reply only then confirmed it. Even if you claim to not like it you still consume it and make excuses unless something really bothers you.

Fiction is not made to affect the individual. I don't know what retard said that but fiction was made to tell a story. Whether it's to teach you something, inspire, entertain it's all for the purpose of telling the individual a story. What you take and feel from the story is up to the individual. That is it's goal. Fiction that tries to tell you want to think or tell you what you should feel is nothing more than propaganda. Can't believe I have to explain this.

To say Japan has a horrendous problem with pedophilia will then have me ask how? They have laws preventing the exploitation of children and anyone caught will be named and shamed as well as arrested and forced to pay a fine. Sounds like pretty harsh punishment if you ask me. The only way you could say stupid shit like "normalized in their media" is if you think loli art, which is pretty popular over there, is the same as actual children. Which it is not. To assume it's Japan that has a massive pedo problem when pedophilia is a massive worldwide issue, thanks to the internet and social media, is disingenuous. The only example I could maybe give you is junior idols but even that requires a parent or guardian permission and is no different than child actors.

Also the character in question is a child strictly because of her age. If she was 18 and acted the same as she does now what excuse would you have then. Which is why my point of context mattering is important. Along with petite or small build doesn't instantly mean a child.

I took an issue with your initial comment because of how bullshit of a blanket statement it is. If you don't like loli art or loli characters that's fine. You're free to have that opinion and even criticize its inclusion. Right up until you start saying anyone that has no issue or likes the art is a pedophile. Because at that point you're talking out of your ass just because you don't like it.

 

[kuronujutsudai]

Yeah, and? The goal of fiction is not to keep it in fantasy world, it is to actually affect the audience here in the real world, for better or for worse. Yes these are fictional characters, but that's doesn't mean pedophiles aren't reeeal happy with that panel.

Gross, thats a lie and a cringey one at that, did you heard it from some morality 70s activist or did some cringey streamer "taught" you that. Either way fiction and midia does NOT "affect" the world in the sense youre pretending to justify your gross projection and virtue signaling, otherwise ALL fictional violence should be banned, but youll pretend it doesnt count as that may not reflect as much the things youre repressing on yourself that you think the drawings will wake in you.

We get it, youre projecting yourself being a boy toucher on the drawings of characters that werent even meant to be representing that at all (you do have posts talking about wanting twinks an the like, small stature minors mostly being called that) and assumed everybody in the world must be equally ugly as you inside right. But thats not true, no matter how hard you project and cry offense on manga, itll just show the part of you that you failed in hiding.

But crying about fiction influencing reality means youre the type of Karen that needs to be Gatekept from ALL art and midia, not just anime and manga, even if you didnt unmask yourself as an unsavory nnce too, as youll rot it all to your feefees.

(ALSO of course the diddlr pretending to be offended by mangas also had VERY racst things to say about Japan and the japanese, heres a hot take dear: if you hate the japanese so much that youll made up things about their society and call them criminal things, how about STOP reading their books and cartoons? We get that you HATE all anime and is here because you need fandoms to take over for attention and attack others, but if you pretend the japanese are evil touchers to hide that you are not, maybe STOP reading their cultural output that scared you so much, you are NOT welcome in any manga or anime community no matter how much you force yourself)

 

[lfscruz]

You people are absolutely batshit insane what the actual fuck are these replies, Jesus Christ what in god's earth are these mental gymnastics to justify pedophilia?? Get me out of here this place is a breeding ground for creeps.

I mean I'm an atheist but y'all got me in dire need of some holy water