Gyakkou shita Akuyaku Reijou wa, Nazeka Maryoku wo Ushinatta node Shinsou no Reijou ni Narimasu ~Seijo Anna no Monogatari~ - Ch. 8

[MangaDex]

 

[knightnin]

If this story really does end at the beginning of the other story I shudder to think how Rachel gets manipulated so badly. She seems entirely normal here and this conversation, if Rachel takes it at face value, should alleviate all of her fears.

I'm starting to think the "Villainess" tag doesn't refer to her.

 

[Chaos47]

If this story really does end at the beginning of the other story I shudder to think how Rachel gets manipulated so badly. She seems entirely normal here and this conversation, if Rachel takes it at face value, should alleviate all of her fears.

I'm starting to think the "Villainess" tag doesn't refer to her.

No, this is an alternate reality where The Saint is a reincarnated person and Rachel is not on her second life. In the other story, during Rachel's first life The Saint was not a reincarnated person. It was only on Rachel's second life that The Saint that appeared at the school was someone with knowledge of the game (everyone comments on how they feel something is off about Ana when they meet her, even Ana's best friend from the first run wanted nothing to do with her).

 

[Elhao]

In the other story, during Rachel's first life The Saint was not a reincarnated person. It was only on Rachel's second life that The Saint that appeared at the school was someone with knowledge of the game

Do we know that for a fact? Anna here behaves like she did in Rachel's first life, yet we do know from the flashback last chapter that the reincarnatress inside her and the Anna of the main story are the same person, including her crush on the guy reborn as the cook, so for all I know this might just be the depiction of Rachel's first life with Anna and everyone's reactions to her being different being caused by Rachel and the changes to the story and Anna's memories of her previous life being more vague here for some reason.

 

[MagnaDrake]

In another time, in another place, these two could have been the bestest of friends...

 

[af4zl]

Usually in a trope like this, MC will remember her past life after hearing her own name or the capture target or something like that. So I'm still wondering at what point Anna remembered her past life?

maybe after
When Rachel starts bullying Anna because of the influence, Anna will awaken her past memory.
or
Anna remembered her past life not in this time but after Rachel went back in time.
Or maybe it's as simple as looking for a Japanese ingredient or something.

 

[Chaos47]

Do we know that for a fact? Anna here behaves like she did in Rachel's first life, yet we do know from the flashback last chapter that the reincarnatress inside her and the Anna of the main story are the same person, including her crush on the guy reborn as the cook, so for all I know this might just be the depiction of Rachel's first life with Anna and everyone's reactions to her being different being caused by Rachel and the changes to the story and Anna's memories of her previous life being more vague here for some reason.

No, everyone seems to believe there is something "off" about second life Anna. Even her best friend from the previous run (braids and glasses girl) wanted to avoid her. Rachel is not even sure if that's just her being paranoid, since she admits it herself that she never bothered to speak with Anna, but she still has her doubts that the current Anna may be someone like her (she thinks she kept her memories from the first run, she knows nothing about other world reincarnation). This goes way further than Rachel being a nice person now and everyone ignoring Anna, since even the prince has been on alert from the moment he met Anna for the first time.

 

[Nautical]

No, everyone seems to believe there is something "off" about second life Anna. Even her best friend from the previous run (braids and glasses girl) wanted to avoid her. Rachel is not even sure if that's just her being paranoid, since she admits it herself that she never bothered to speak with Anna, but she still has her doubts that the current Anna may be someone like her (she thinks she kept her memories from the first run, she knows nothing about other world reincarnation). This goes way further than Rachel being a nice person now and everyone ignoring Anna, since even the prince has been on alert from the moment he met Anna for the first time.

Well in the previous world they all started to shun Rachel and become besties with Anna.
Now in this world since they are all besties with Rachel, they are all shunning Anna.

I wouldnt be surprised if Anna is depressed like she was at the start of the spin off where she has no friends or family. But now all the friends and family she made are shunning her for trying to get close to them.

 

[Kyuu_ra]

In my interpretation, this really is the original timeline that takes place before the events of the main manga story. Anna in both the main story and this spin-off is essentially the same person, and from the very beginning, she already carried memories of Anzu.

However, in the original timeline (this spin-off), Anna’s true personality was stronger and more dominant than Anzu’s memories. Later, due to Rachel’s regression, Anzu’s memories started to take precedence over Anna’s original self.

And according to the spoilers I’ve read, those memories of Anzu gradually begin to fade day by day, until eventually Anna’s original personality resurfaces and becomes her true self once again.

 

[ALiVE]

Why do i have a feeling that the whole Second Reincarnation is because of the Real Anna?
Since they both look so sincere with each other and Anna Personality that want to help others, i feel like she cant bear seeing her Idol downfall and somehow discover that all the bullying and the bullshittery was pulled by Katerina

 

[DoingScience]

I have to disagree with people saying a stronger Anzu would create the main series Anna. What we've seen of An-chan is that she is in single-minded love with her friend's older brother, which doesn't strike me as the type to minmax her way though a real life Otome game. If anything, seeing her and her friend made me think that the presently unnamed friend is the original series Anna, due to her obsession with the game. It's obviously some reincarnee in the main timeline, seeing the world as made up of events and calling Rachel "buggy", and the only hint so far (Up to Ch. 26) is her crying for the older brother's name.

 

[Ioknight]

Awwwwh, they're both so cute! It's a shame this is the doomed timeline...

 

[mahtan]

You know, one thing that I hate no matter what are retcons and this story as well as the main one aretrying hard to retcon the villainess character so she is not evil.
Hate that.

 

[Robyn_Banks]

You know, one thing that I hate no matter what are retcons and this story as well as the main one aretrying hard to retcon the villainess character so she is not evil.
Hate that.

I disagree completely. Rachel has been established multiple times in the main series as an unreliable narrator. Unreliable narrators being unreliable is the opposite of a retcon; it's logical storytelling and progression. Rachel being evil would make her later personality incongruent. People don't change that drastically that quickly and completely in real life. Finally, in the very third chapter of the main series, her maid said that Rachel was not a bad person, and that was explicitly part of the original timeline where Rachel was a villainess, after Rachel was banished. Something set up that early on is again the opposite of a retcon.

Before claiming something is a retcon, especially this frequently corroborated, you should check the facts of the story first.

 

[enigmator]

Hm. Didn't Rachel supposedly try to kill Anna in the first timeline?

This spinoff somewhat re-contextualizes what we know about the main story.

 

[mahtan]

I disagree completely. Rachel has been established multiple times in the main series as an unreliable narrator. Unreliable narrators being unreliable is the opposite of a retcon; it's logical storytelling and progression. Rachel being evil would make her later personality incongruent. People don't change that drastically that quickly and completely in real life. Finally, in the very third chapter of the main series, her maid said that Rachel was not a bad person, and that was explicitly part of the original timeline where Rachel was a villainess, after Rachel was banished. Something set up that early on is again the opposite of a retcon.

Before claiming something is a retcon, especially this frequently corroborated, you should check the facts of the story first.

I would agree with you if it was just Rachel that said she had a bad personality but at the start the way other people react to her and her fear of how they would treat her when going back to school also demonstrate that it was not just something from her head.

 

[TheGodEmperor]

No, this is an alternate reality where The Saint is a reincarnated person and Rachel is not on her second life. In the other story, during Rachel's first life The Saint was not a reincarnated person. It was only on Rachel's second life that The Saint that appeared at the school was someone with knowledge of the game (everyone comments on how they feel something is off about Ana when they meet her, even Ana's best friend from the first run wanted nothing to do with her).

I don't know what is to come, didn't read, but based off this story so far and the other it feels like the power of compassion is what reverts time but also awakens her past life memories fully. That is how it feels it is going to go to me.