Hirano to Kagiura - Vol. 7 Ch. 31 - Wavering Throughout Five Minutes, Our Overlapping

[tictokgaming111]

Hah.
I'm honestly kinda anxious about their relationship, from a realistic perspective.

It was a source of tension with my grey ace ex.

She was also abusive, but...

I see. Good thing is these two are not abusive. They talk things earnestly. I am wishing you luck for the future.

 

[tictokgaming111]

Well, SasaMyaa gets heavy with every coming out Sasaki has.
Hanzawa's backstory, Miyano having to convince Sasaki that he also is willing to be open and not reluctant/timid...

And now we have Sasaki signalling a desire to bottom (at least sometimes), and a friend who's an ally or perhaps more, on top of Sasaki keeping things low-key at college. "He has a girlfriend" "🤦‍♀️"

Both got different themes which is Great!!! But Hirakagi could be a bit controversial especially this last and this chapter

 

[tictokgaming111]

Oh, it's gotta be meant like that.
The author is very much a queer ally. She told me (just chatting livestream) she puts effort into realism, with anxiety about doing it right.
This was before it was clear what was up with Hirano. I was thanking her for stuff like coming outs, sexual awakenings, etc.

Honestly I was thinking the same . No way she wrote this without intentending to. I wrote a story for my college and the amount of research I did for a simple story was insane. The amount of research for writing this story which is adored by so many ppl and resonates with so many queer ppl definitely needed research

 

[tictokgaming111]

Omg gosh this is going to be so controversial....... Things I wanted to write if I was not in public. Is that Kiss was okay?? Definitely No..... Even Kagi understands.. It was non-consent. Even He didn't want to do it but it's mix of hormones and an overwhelming emotion that made him cross the line. I get it... I was shouting no at that kiss as well but I am not mad at Kagi either.... He is so sweet most of the time and gets overwhelmed with feelings at times that makes him do thngs that He shouldn't.... Dare I say that they act more like Teenagers than sasaki and miyano. Doing stuff you will regret and learn. As for Hirano... So far he is not okay with the kiss... It's not something he wanna do right now and maybe not in the future as well... Or maybe will warm up to it eventually. More than anything he was startled by the kiss than hate... Again it's hard to explain.

The way the I am so like Hirano and My friend is like Kagi makes me understand why Hirano is not mad... It's hard to explain in detail... My class is going to start so I will complete this after my class... I wanna write more on this but Very bold chapters from Sensei.

Edit: Back from class so here I go.... I thought Kagi would have a bad breakdown and thank goodness it didn't happen to that extent... I feel like both Hirano and Kagiura are trying to do what the other person want of them in thier own way. Hirano trying to adjust himself to Kagiura's physical needs and Kagi trying his best to be weary of Hirano's boundaries. Feels like trial and error method with a lot of hurdles.Hirano doesn't like Kagi holding back for his sake... clear fron the previous chapters. Hirano's reaction is so valid... Hirano you shouldn't be feeling so sorry for hurting Kagi. If that Kiss was an impulsive act then The slap was too.... You guys are steven even..

I didn't expect Hirano be like "come on!!! Give me a Slap". I didn't expect that.. I had a laugh at it... Hirano was more concerned about Hurting the person cares for the most and it was because of him that is suffering...

And there comes the thing that I love about Sensei's writing.... The Healthy communication!!!!! They talked through things about what they want... What is Love to them... Hirano understanding that he got things more than staying together was gold.... also Hirano initiating the Hug was soo cute... He even used his tommorow's time.... This is not going to be the kind of first kiss that they are going to look back fondly... Maybe this will be the incident makes Kagi not cross that line... He is going to be filled with guilt and regret for his action.

The way Sensei handles them is what made me feel like I am okay with this... Main question, are these two going to get anyway sleep tonight? Am I gonna get any sleep tonight? And did Hanzawa stand there for 5mins?! If so, he might've heard them speak.. yea he knows or atleast suspects.. Poor Hanzawa doesn't want them to be like their brothers... I get why it was Sasaki and miyano who made him think that his brothers will be fine because they don't fight but on the other hand Hirano and Kagiura fight.

These two definitely want more than ten seconds to touch. I am looking forward to the abolition of ten second rule ( I am talking like it's a government rule or something lol) than them dating. Did Hirano hit his lips against Hirano's Teeth or something?... Also I can't believe Sensei didn't hide much like she does Sasamiya... I am grateful for that it makes so much sense to show more in this case.

Team thank you so much for the translation and chapter... You guys were so fast.

Sorry for the essay. I just wanted to get this out of my brain and into words

 

[Maacchii]

Well, SasaMyaa gets heavy with every coming out Sasaki has.
Hanzawa's backstory, Miyano having to convince Sasaki that he also is willing to be open and not reluctant/timid...

And now we have Sasaki signalling a desire to bottom (at least sometimes), and a friend who's an ally or perhaps more, on top of Sasaki keeping things low-key at college. "He has a girlfriend" "🤦‍♀️"

No you're absolutely right! SasaMyaa has its moments too, like your examples, Sasaki's backstory, Miyano's very real complex about being too feminine, etc. I just think it handles these things in a softer way usually. The way I see it SasaMyaa is "slice of life with a BL meta accompanied by occasional deeper moments", while HiraKagi is more "plot-driven story with a heavy focus on exploring relationships complexities accompanied by slice of life shenanigans". Not saying one is better or more valuable than the other, they're both great! I just feel that they serve different purposes; ssmy is fluffy romcom first, angst second - hrkg is thoughtful drama(ish) first, cute SoL second.

In SasaMyaa conflict usually gets resolved pretty quickly once it arises and the overall tone isn't typically as serious as HiraKagi. In this manga troubles tend to linger - things that happen can bother the characters many chapters later still - and in general the serious stuff is given more space in the story so it can escalate into a considerable issue. Like Hanzawa's been going "...?" at Hirano and Kagi for a good while now, his apparent homophobia was first mentioned 7 chapters ago, and only now is he getting actually suspicious. In SasaMyaa his issue with romance/gay couples was handled in only a few chapters.

So my point is (sry I cannot be concise to save my life lol), while SasaMyaa goes over similarly rough and complex subjects, I think HiraKagi tends to delve a bit deeper into them in comparison, as the natures of these two series are ultimately quite different. This is only my perspective though and I'm not saying it's objectively true. To me they feel very very different in how they approach and portray topics like homophobia so I'm curious to see how the Hanzawa plotline will go here.

 

[Thrembs]

Both got different themes which is Great!!! But Hirakagi could be a bit controversial especially this last and this chapter

SasaMyaa does have the time they

Spoiler

fuck on the floor during lunch period

No you're absolutely right! SasaMyaa has its moments too, like your examples, Sasaki's backstory, Miyano's very real complex about being too feminine, etc. I just think it handles these things in a softer way usually. The way I see it SasaMyaa is "slice of life with a BL meta accompanied by occasional deeper moments", while HiraKagi is more "plot-driven story with a heavy focus on exploring relationships complexities accompanied by slice of life shenanigans". Not saying one is better or more valuable than the other, they're both great! I just feel that they serve different purposes; ssmy is fluffy romcom first, angst second - hrkg is thoughtful drama(ish) first, cute SoL second.

In SasaMyaa conflict usually gets resolved pretty quickly once it arises and the overall tone isn't typically as serious as HiraKagi. In this manga troubles tend to linger - things that happen can bother the characters many chapters later still - and in general the serious stuff is given more space in the story so it can escalate into a considerable issue. Like Hanzawa's been going "...?" at Hirano and Kagi for a good while now, his apparent homophobia was first mentioned 7 chapters ago, and only now is he getting actually suspicious. In SasaMyaa his issue with romance/gay couples was handled in only a few chapters.

So my point is (sry I cannot be concise to save my life lol), while SasaMyaa goes over similarly rough and complex subjects, I think HiraKagi tends to delve a bit deeper into them in comparison, as the natures of these two series are ultimately quite different. This is only my perspective though and I'm not saying it's objectively true. To me they feel very very different in how they approach and portray topics like homophobia so I'm curious to see how the Hanzawa plotline will go here.

Good points. If we're talking tone, SasaMyaa is waaaaaaay fluffier.

What I find brilliant is the structure of this one stayed An BL Manga Story for far longer, as a bait-and-switch for "you thought this was gonna be basic, didn't you!?" Yes. Yes, I did.

To be fair, Hanzawa is stated to be "infamously homophobic" in the novel, which predates the HiraKagi manga.

Wow is that novel uninteresting. So much of it is describing their studying in detail. Like, the subjects being covered. Then they have a nice visit to Kagi-kun's family home, and it ends.

 

[tictokgaming111]

SasaMyaa does have the time they

Spoiler

fuck on the floor during lunch period

Good points. If we're talking tone, SasaMyaa is waaaaaaay fluffier.

What I find brilliant is the structure of this one stayed An BL Manga Story for far longer, as a bait-and-switch for "you thought this was gonna be basic, didn't you!?" Yes. Yes, I did.

To be fair, Hanzawa is stated to be "infamously homophobic" in the novel, which predates the HiraKagi manga.

Wow is that novel uninteresting. So much of it is describing their studying in detail. Like, the subjects being covered. Then they have a nice visit to Kagi-kun's family home, and it ends.

I had so much fun reading the novel

 

[tictokgaming111]

SasaMyaa does have the time they

Spoiler

fuck on the floor during lunch period

Good points. If we're talking tone, SasaMyaa is waaaaaaay fluffier.

What I find brilliant is the structure of this one stayed An BL Manga Story for far longer, as a bait-and-switch for "you thought this was gonna be basic, didn't you!?" Yes. Yes, I did.

To be fair, Hanzawa is stated to be "infamously homophobic" in the novel, which predates the HiraKagi manga.

Wow is that novel uninteresting. So much of it is describing their studying in detail. Like, the subjects being covered. Then they have a nice visit to Kagi-kun's family home, and it ends.

Yes, how can I forget.... Yep you got a point.

 

[Thrembs]

Omg gosh this is going to be so controversial....... Things I wanted to write if I was not in public. Is that Kiss was okay?? Definitely No..... Even Kagi understands.. It was non-consent. Even He didn't want to do it but it's mix of hormones and an overwhelming emotion that made him cross the line. I get it... I was shouting no at that kiss as well but I am not mad at Kagi either.... He is so sweet most of the time and gets overwhelmed with feelings at times that makes him do thngs that He shouldn't.... Dare I say that they act more like Teenagers than sasaki and miyano. Doing stuff you will regret and learn. As for Hirano... So far he is not okay with the kiss... It's not something he wanna do right now and maybe not in the future as well... Or maybe will warm up to it eventually. More than anything he was startled by the kiss than hate... Again it's hard to explain.

The way the I am so like Hirano and My friend is like Kagi makes me understand why Hirano is not mad... It's hard to explain in detail... My class is going to start so I will complete this after my class... I wanna write more on this but Very bold chapters from Sensei.

Edit: Back from class so here I go.... I thought Kagi would have a bad breakdown and thank goodness it didn't happen to that extent... I feel like both Hirano and Kagiura are trying to do what the other person want of them in their own way. Hirano trying to adjust himself to Kagiura's physical needs and Kagi trying his best to be weary of Hirano's boundaries. Feels like trial and error method with a lot of hurdles. Hirano doesn't like Kagi holding back for his sake... clear from the previous chapters. Hirano's reaction is so valid... Hirano you shouldn't be feeling so sorry for hurting Kagi. If that Kiss was an impulsive act then The slap was too.... You guys are steven even..

I didn't expect Hirano be like "come on!!! Give me a Slap". I didn't expect that.. I had a good laugh at it... Hirano was more concerned about hurting the person he cares for the most and it was because of him that Kagi is suffering...

And there comes the thing that I love about Sensei's writing.... The Healthy communication!!!!! They talked through things about what they want... What is Love to them... Hirano understanding that he got things more than staying together was gold.... also Hirano initiating the Hug was soo cute... He even used his tommorow's time.... This is not going to be the kind of first kiss that they are going to look back fondly... Maybe this will be the incident makes Kagi not cross that line... He is going to be filled with guilt and regret for his action.

The way Sensei handles them is what made me feel like I am okay with this... Main question, are these two going to get anyway sleep tonight? Am I gonna get any sleep tonight? And did Hanzawa stand there for 5mins?! If so, he might've heard them speak.. yea he knows or atleast suspects.. Poor Hanzawa doesn't want them to be like their brothers... I get why it was Sasaki and miyano who made him think that his brothers will be fine because they don't fight but on the other hand Hirano and Kagiura fight.

These two definitely want more than ten seconds to touch. I am looking forward to the abolition of ten second rule ( I am talking like it's a government rule or something lol) than them dating. Did Hirano hit his lips against Kagiura's Teeth or something?... Also I can't believe Sensei didn't hide much like she does Sasamiya... I am grateful for that it makes so much sense to show more in this case.

Team thank you so much for the translation and chapter... You guys were so fast.

I think the collision with his lip might be part of the severity of his reaction.
He seems to be "no, this is weird." On physical affection.

I think they kinda ARE dating, now.

They both just said they want a relationship, and they hugged on it.
Hirano hasn't said the words yet.


I hope he searches the internet better and finds out he's not a freak.

 

[tictokgaming111]

I think the collision with his lip might be part of the severity of his reaction.
He seems to be "no, this is weird." On physical affection.

I think they kinda ARE dating, now.

They both just said they want a relationship, and they hugged on it.
Hirano hasn't said the words yet.


I hope he searches the internet better and finds out he's not a freak.

Honestly took me it me so long to find that I was Aroace... Internet was a big help because it's not well known here and If I didn't know English I wouldn't have found it either.... Yea I wonder how well known it is in Japan...

Hirano is definitely not wierd... I hope he finds it too

 

[gwkimmy]

This isn't a "get used to" thing.

He's ace.

Being ace isn't a monolith, tho. There are people who are sex repulsed and some who do it for their allosexual partner, even if they don't feel any desire or urge for the activity. I have ace friends who want no affection whatsoever and ace friends who are married to allosexuals and decided to have sex purely for the purpose of having children with their spouse. Neither are incorrect.

Hirano has absolutely no experience whatsoever, so I'm thinking there could be a possibility that he might open up to some forms of contact for Kagi-kun's sake, but he could also never be okay with it, which would be understandable and fine. As long as these two are on the same page and want to be together and make each other happy, I'm down with it!

 

[tictokgaming111]

I think the collision with his lip might be part of the severity of his reaction.
He seems to be "no, this is weird." On physical affection.

I think they kinda ARE dating, now.

They both just said they want a relationship, and they hugged on it.
Hirano hasn't said the words yet.


I hope he searches the internet better and finds out he's not a freak.

Kinda dating ig... Also I am looking forward for the Hirano and Sasaki's talk in disciplinary committee about him liking Miyano...

 

[Thrembs]

Being ace isn't a monolith, tho. There are people who are sex repulsed and some who do it for their allosexual partner, even if they don't feel any desire or urge for the activity. I have ace friends who want no affection whatsoever and ace friends who are married to allosexuals and decided to have sex purely for the purpose of having children with their spouse. Neither are incorrect.

Hirano has absolutely no experience whatsoever, so I'm thinking there could be a possibility that he might open up to some forms of contact for Kagi-kun's sake, but he could also never be okay with it, which would be understandable and fine. As long as these two are on the same page and want to be together and make each other happy, I'm down with it!

Ugh.
I just want people to let things happen.

"I hope his orientation is..." gives me the ick.

I get that it's fiction, but I've seen too many people telling people their orientation, telling me to use/not use whatever terminology to the point I feel the least safe in queer spaces of all places.

The "progress flag" outright triggers anxiety attacks, because I am not white, trans, and was here before some kid decided to tell me I'm welcome.
I BEEN here. Waaaaay before that person (pronouns forgotten) was even born, and now I get people who give me the side eye if I use 🏳️‍🌈. (You know, the one for everyone?)

Great.

As such, I don't even feel comfortable with wearing pride anything, ever. I have stuff, and I don't care anymore. I'm gonna go back to dressing frum.

If I used a trans pride flag, and the sun faded it, people might take me, a woman, for a femboy. I very much don't want to be taken for a man.

If I put together a fun, colourful outfit, people sometimes think I'm trying to dress like XYZ flag and then I'm having some fucking conversation about myself a stranger at the supermarket while my ice cream melts.

Whether I call myself pan or bi someone will call me some kind of *phobic.
That's counterproductive.

I used to think I was only attracted to women, but was told I couldn't use "lesbian" for that, or I was being transphobic, because apparently lesbian doesn't apply to homosexuals, just people who are attracted to everything but cis men (based on many descriptions and berating given by young people).

Queer culture is toxic right now, and I'm over it.

I'm going back in the closet. I'm gonna pull out of the dating pool.

Yeah, I went off.
I've had a fucking day and didn't want a lecture on orientations when my point was "if he finds it disgusting, why would you want him to do it? That's weird."

"Maybe don't say that. Orientations exist."
"ACtuALlY..."

I'm done. I'm out. This site is doomed anyway, I'm removing the bookmark.

 

[tictokgaming111]

Ugh.
I just want people to let things happen.

"I hope his orientation is..." gives me the ick.

I get that it's fiction, but I've seen too many people telling people their orientation, telling me to use/not use whatever terminology to the point I feel the least safe in queer spaces of all places.

The "progress flag" outright triggers anxiety attacks, because I am not white, trans, and was here before some kid decided to tell me I'm welcome.
I BEEN here. Waaaaay before that person (pronouns forgotten) was even born, and now I get people who give me the side eye if I use 🏳️‍🌈. (You know, the one for everyone?)

Great.

As such, I don't even feel comfortable with wearing pride anything, ever. I have stuff, and I don't care anymore. I'm gonna go back to dressing frum.

If I used a trans pride flag, and the sun faded it, people might take me, a woman, for a femboy. I very much don't want to be taken for a man.

If I put together a fun, colourful outfit, people sometimes think I'm trying to dress like XYZ flag and then I'm having some fucking conversation about myself a stranger at the supermarket while my ice cream melts.

Whether I call myself pan or bi someone will call me some kind of *phobic.
That's counterproductive.

I used to think I was only attracted to women, but was told I couldn't use "lesbian" for that, or I was being transphobic, because apparently lesbian doesn't apply to homosexuals, just people who are attracted to everything but cis men (based on many descriptions and berating given by young people).

Queer culture is toxic right now, and I'm over it.

I'm going back in the closet. I'm gonna pull out of the dating pool.

Yeah, I went off.
I've had a fucking day and didn't want a lecture on orientations when my point was "if he finds it disgusting, why would you want him to do it? That's weird."

"Maybe don't say that. Orientations exist."
"ACtuALlY..."

I'm done. I'm out. This site is doomed anyway, I'm removing the bookmark.

I don't know how to respond at all. All I can say is take care. I don't know how the queer community is in other countries and how they treat them.....

In my country trans ppl have such a rough time. They have hard time to find job itself. I have not met a Queer person other than me.

So all I can say is take care with all my heart.