How to block a group from showing up in Follows?

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Long story short, there's a group that left MangaDex , but came back solely to post garbage scans of a very nice series (Dimensional Mercenary - highly recommended!).

I'd like to block them from showing up in my Follows.

Is it possible?
 
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this question is mostly for the staff / @Teasday. I didn't want to create a new thread since we don't have this feature yet, but i thought it'd be relevant.

How will no group group be dealt with in the upcoming Block Group feature?
this, by the way, is the "group" that an uploader is supposed to utilize if they want to release a chapter without a group name. right now there are 8000+ chapters under "no group".

Let's say that someone uploads a troll chapter or something i don't want to see, and uses the "no group" group.
if i were to block "no group", i would inadvertently end up blocking tons of manga chapters across so many different titles that were worked on by a lot of different scanlators.

i dunno how big a problem this might be, but this "no group" might become a loophole that someone could take advantage of for trolling. or it'd cause a bit of confusion for readers of "no group" uploads, if they end up unintentionally blocking some chapters they actually want to read.
 
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Since troll chapters aren't allowed here (with the exception of on April 1st), it'd normally be reported by somebody sooner or later and removed anyway, so that shouldn't be an issue.
 
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@Teasday set the bar low for the masses, i say.
@Harry_Dong probably right, maybe this loophole won't be a real loophole at all

with "no group" group specifically, how the Block feature is supposed to work becomes a little fuzzy... maybe i can't wrap my mind around the "no group" idea.
 
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The issue with that is that the staff don't give a clear definition of what makes a troll chapter, which is why this feature is being so frequently requested in the first place. There's a notable uploader who has been posting loosely-translated chapters with the intent of pissing people off, and proudly admitted to such in the comments before he was eventually banned from them (but not from uploading), but the chapters were ruled to not fall afoul of the rule.
 
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The issue with that is that the staff don't give a clear definition of what makes a troll chapter, which is why this feature is being so frequently requested in the first place. There's a notable uploader who has been posting loosely-translated chapters with the intent of pissing people off, and proudly admitted to such in the comments before he was eventually banned from them (but not from uploading), but the chapters were ruled to not fall afoul of the rule.

Ah, I see what you're getting at. Yeah, bit of a grey area there. I'm personally of the view of Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"...so it all boils down to intent for me. But y'know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, I don't call the shots on this site. Maybe if there was a poll or something and enough people raises a stink, then who knows?
 
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The issue with that is that the staff don't give a clear definition of what makes a troll chapter, which is why this feature is being so frequently requested in the first place. There's a notable uploader who has been posting loosely-translated chapters with the intent of pissing people off, and proudly admitted to such in the comments before he was eventually banned from them (but not from uploading), but the chapters were ruled to not fall afoul of the rule.
Ah, I see what you're getting at. Yeah, bit of a grey area there. I'm personally of the view of Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"...so it all boils down to intent for me. But y'know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, I don't call the shots on this site. Maybe if there was a poll or something and enough people raises a stink, then who knows?

Me, currently uploading inubaka with my extremely subpar Japanese/editing ability because nobody else would.
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But then I read the part about it being intentional to piss people off and realized that couldn't have been directed at me. I'm just bad at nihongo, but trying on a dead series lol. I def don't want people with lesser abilities to shy away from the community and be considered trolls, especially on series that nobody else is working on. My group's philosophy is "shit scans are better than no scans".

Agreed though, sometimes it can be hard to distinguish intent. Is it a garbage translation on purpose, or is someone just trying their best and probably failing? Some trolls are obvious, but the good ones mask their intentions well.
 
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Skimming through the works of the group I think dokkotak refers to the releases seem legitimate translations of the source material, just with stylistic choices people might not appreciate. So I'm not sure I agree with the assessment of the releases themselves being with the pure intent of being to troll people. I don't want to jump to any conclusions but this probably also part of the reason why the chapters themselves are not removed yet, as they technically don't break any rules.

Persons associated with the group in question did break code of conduct in the way they handled responses to said releases, but as far as I am aware, their behaviour is largely in response to people criticizing the releases and dogpile the group for "Spoiling" them. This obviously doesn't excuse their behaviour, there are much more constructive ways of dealing with such responses, but I do find that fact relevant when going into intent.
 
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Regarding the blocking feature:
I agree that people should probably figure out that releases under "no group" and "/a/ scanlations" aren't always the same people, but I do think a blocking feature would work best on a per-series basis (perhaps concurrent with a global one) where users can either blacklist or "prefer" a group simply for that series but not necessarily for others.

I don't know if this is what planned, and would check or suggest this in the original suggestion thread, but I recently had to sift through several pages of suggestions even to find my own thread from 5 months ago so I figured it'd be easier to suggest it in this fresh thread and possibly make a new suggestion thread if it wasn't already planned.
 
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ah, yeah that would be a good feature if possible. With the many many manga and the many many groups though not sure how difficult that would be to pull off.
But it would make sense to have an option to "prefer" a translator group if multiple groups are doing a series. Though I gotta say, at least in my experience it is kinda rare to see multiple groups working on a series at once. But then again I typically don't read very popular manga.
 
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It definitely isn't too common with smaller series but with some series, groups will release the same chapter within a day of each other, so it's not an entirely hypothetical problem.

In terms of implementation, the simplest method would be to just check for the various groups releasing for a title and let the user pick one which they want to be specifically notified about. It sounds intensive if you think about having to do it manually, but the data of which groups are scanlating which series is already available in the site's database (not only evidenced by the various releases under one title, but also on the Manga tab on group pages).
Implementing it will take some doing, sure, but once you've got it figured out it can just be applied automatically to all series. It'd be up to users themselves to actually set a preference for the feature to actually take effect.

Alternatively, you could implement it so that the site wouldn't notify users of chapters that are lower, or equal, to the current reading progress (a feature already implemented and automatically updated) but doing it this way would unfairly bias quicker groups, which is often not what you want.
While it's probably true that most people will often just read the first release available any way, implementing it so that later release will be completely invisible to users outside of actually going to the title's overview page would drastically cut down exposure of groups who release (possibly better quality) chapters later.
 

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