Is Demographics shifting real?

[Garett]

Is this real?

(Discussion on replies)

 

[Manko-sensei]

Which demographics are you talking about? Globalwide, Continental-wise, Countrywide, Manga-wise? And shifting towards which direction?

 

[Garett]

Which demographics are you talking about? Globalwide, Continental-wise, Countrywide, Manga-wise? And shifting towards which direction?

In general. Away from its origin or what it was originally to be.

From my personal observation, it happened to Dragonball and Naruto. If you are a viewer who watched its episode one of its original season from its first series, then compared to several recent one, you might noticed the fan services are least than what it was used to be. It shifted to general consumption.

This is understandable. Audience are grow up.

 

[DavidianMillerian]

goddamnit, I'm an idiot, I thought it was a different kind of demographics shifting

 

[Garett]

goddamnit, I'm an idiot, I thought it was a different kind of demographics shifting

You are welcome to elaborate.

The shifting in question does not affect on certain subjects, but also the definition of one's demographics: changing its meaning.

Yes, "shifting". Present continuous tense.

 

[Doedoel]

So what does a black rock have to do with any of these? I thought obsidians were pretty gems.

 

[DavidianMillerian]

So what does a black rock have to do with any of these? I thought obsidians were pretty gems.

he meant coal, not obsidian

obsidian is the studio that made fallout new vegas

 

[NotGary]

yeah, why would it not be a thing ?

 

[Manko-sensei]

At least you cleared out which demographics are not. Regarding these shonen series, how are they no longer shonen targeted? People from different ages watched them around thirty years ago and nowadays it's the same, with the difference that they already have a fan base. And how were them considered "fan service" just when they aired? They changed content but not demographics, Dragonball started as an adventure comedy, changed to a show of shouting fights and twenty or so years later managed to convince the original creator to create a new arc just because there was a fan base waiting for it (if that's not fan service I don't know what it is). And well, they had watchers but not because they kept the same quality level...
If you google BlackRock you'll discover it's a Corporation from USA, nothing exotic.

 

[Angry_Panda]

Clarifying what you mean by 'demographics' helps some. While I'm not a marketer, I speak the language well enough to be able to follow along (and shake my head quite a bit, because those folks are nuts). Side/explanatory note: I work with a company that was a pioneer in computerized demographics way back in the early '70's, when all the data collection was done via paper and had to be manually entered into a mainframe database, so if you think data collection is a 'new' thing that started with the internet... it's really not. That just made it more ubiquitous.

Yes, two things are broadly happening as we go along - first, anime/manga/associated Japanese culture are continuing to be absorbed into 'common' culture in the broader world, so where twenty or thirty or forty years ago the styles of art used there would have been exotic, now they're fairly common, at least to the point where no one really looks twice.

Second, folks who have grown up with that culture and style of art (or who were exposed to it as young adults) are starting and raising their own families and making major purchase decisions with their career-sized paychecks, so savvy marketers are noting this and using that to their benefit.

This has a couple of effects:

• The establishment, maturation, and evolution of a 'canon' of works (the thought that if you want to seriously watch anime, you should see Eva and Cowboy Bebop and DBZ and Akira and Ghost in the Shell and Sailor Moon and... I'm really dating myself here, I think...);
• The gradual spreading of the 'genre' into a broad enough range that most people aren't going to be able to keep tabs on the whole thing (at least, not without dedicating serious time to the effort), resulting in 'subcultures' that may or may not interact with each other;
• Blending of the aspects of the genre/culture with other genres/cultures, and conflicts when differing values collide;
• A generation coming of age now who has never known a world without anime/manga, and so take certain things for granted that those of us who remember the pre-DBZ world don't, leading to some generational divides; and
• Most importantly, a new target audience for creators, who will adjust their output to match.

Most of these things are not really new - Japan has been dealing with them for quite some time - but they are new in the non-Japanese markets. It is a bit odd to see a car at the grocery store with a half a dozen Attack on Titan characters arrayed across the back window, and to then see a mother with two elementary school kids getting into that car. Or to see a car with the license plate 'WAIFU' driving around town. It's a bit of a wink and a nod, but it's also a lot more common than it was a decade ago (or two decades ago, when I was the proud owner of the second genki hat in the city [an angry panda]... which I proceeded to wear everywhere in all weather for about five years, and which got a lot of comments).

So as with all things, the exotic gradually becomes accepted and perhaps commonplace, and then mundane and even blase.

...

Spoiler: You already know what's coming.

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That, hopefully, never gets old.