Is ignoring only way

[Drunkendx]

I posted several negative comments about popular "wholesome" (not really) manga and certain person found such offense to it they respond with abusive responses to my every post in that manga comments.

I only want to have civil discussion about shortcomings of that mangas author, nut it's derailed by that person.

I personally don't believe ignoring is a solution (in my years on various forums, I experienced more issues with ignoring abusive people than benefits, that's why I don't like using that option).

Or does MD not permit having/expressing negative opinions about popular mangas?

 

[Grogzilla]

Having negative opinions of a work or author/artist and wanting to express them is not against our forum rules.

However, because I know the circumstances and have personally read the thread, I will say you were told in that specific thread to just leave it alone and do not engage with content you do not like by another one of our other moderators.

It's that simple.

 

[Drunkendx]

Having negative opinions of a work or author/artist and wanting to express them is not against our forum rules.

However, because I know the circumstances and have personally read the thread, I will say you were told in that specific thread to just leave it alone and do not engage with content you do not like by another one of our other moderators.

It's that simple.

Wow.

You just told me having negative oppinion is not agains rules, but moderators can prevent you from expressing them?

Did I understood it correctly?

Edit: to clarify.

You said you have pretty clear rules, but Moderator can overwrite them at their own discretion.
Because Moderator whose input "I ignored" also ignored my reports for insults on my account for not liking that particular series.

I hoped this site moderators didn't follow reddit school of moderating.

 

[Grogzilla]

Wow.

You just told me having negative oppinion is not agains rules, but moderators can prevent you from expressing them?

Did I understood it correctly?

Edit: to clarify.

You said you have pretty clear rules, but Moderator can overwrite them at their own discretion.
Because Moderator whose input "I ignored" also ignored my reports for insults on my account for not liking that particular series.

I hoped this site moderators didn't follow reddit school of moderating.

If that's what you took from my response, then you are intentionally misinterpreting me.

Expressing negative opinions is fine if done in a respectful manner. Causing disruptions, fighting, and throwing insults is not fine. Moral grandstanding about how you're so exceptionally virtuous for not liking this work and all other users are bad people is also not fine.

We chose not to ban anyone based on that thread because it should be the last resort option. If we did, all participants would have received a ban, including you.

Playing the victim card when you were also in the middle of it is not cool man

 

[RogueKitsune]

You just told me having negative oppinion is not agains rules, but moderators can prevent you from expressing them?

There comes a point, where depending on how you express your opinions, it feels like harassment or intentionally trying to rile people up regardless of actual intent.

 

[Angry_Panda]

Disclaimer: not a mod, just a 45-year-old man who's getting a little irritated with some of the folks raising hell for the mods who keep this place up and running for the rest of us.

TLDR: Old man shouts at cloud snowflake.

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@Drunkendx - dude. Are you twelve? Is this your first time on the internet? If not, learn how to walk away from petty fights when the mods say 'walk away'. They wield the banhammer for a reason.

It's fine to express your opinion. It's fine to have a debate, spirited discussion, etc. about a topic, provided it stays within the bounds of the site rules. But at some point, the horse is dead, so stop beating it. And if the mods say the horse is dead, it doesn't really matter if you thought you saw it twitching - your best (and only viable) option at that point is to treat it like it's well and truly dead and move on.

The mods/devs/etc. here are keeping what is, by pretty much any measure I can find, a top 1000 site in the world up and running on a shoestring budget (which I will note you are contributing to, so kudos for that). I do not believe forum moderation is their top priority. I do not believe it is their second priority. I would guess it's about fifth or sixth on the list, on a good day. However, if and when they do come around to tidy up, it seems that the heaviest consequences are handed out to the folks who have ignored previous warnings.

Cut the mods some slack, stop behaving like a brat, grow the fuck up, and learn how to let go. If you want to shitpost with (relative) abandon, come join the regulars in the lounge section. Provided you don't start in on politics or racism or tell someone to go commit suicide, there's a pretty broad margin for being a terrible person in some of those threads. (Related - read the damn rules.) But bear in mind that yes, the mods do have subjective leeway to decide what flies and what doesn't. They generally seem to give warnings first, but if someone goes entirely off the rails, the bans will come out straightaway. And for the love of crisps, don't argue with the mods in public.

 

[Drunkendx]

There comes a point, where depending on how you express your opinions, it feels like harassment or intentionally trying to rile people up regardless of actual intent.

My problem is that I was told to stop, but people insulting me for having different opinion weren't, that's the issue.
So I'm not permitted to have negative opinion, but people are permitted to harass me for expressing it.
I didn't even respond to that person but answered to someone else quoting me (am I not allowed to explain my stance if someone misunderstand it?)

Adults discuss their differences, kids rage about those who disagree with them (for example, I was called a "troll" for daring to have negative opinion).
I was told by a mod to stop discussing it because couple others were "upset" by my stance. that's... how to put it nicely... insulting.

I've seen many manga discussions were people expressed negative opinions but never (until now) was someone attacked by fans for expressing it. or being called a troll.

 

[Drunkendx]

If that's what you took from my response, then you are intentionally misinterpreting me.

Expressing negative opinions is fine if done in a respectful manner. Causing disruptions, fighting, and throwing insults is not fine. Moral grandstanding about how you're so exceptionally virtuous for not liking this work and all other users are bad people is also not fine.

We chose not to ban anyone based on that thread because it should be the last resort option. If we did, all participants would have received a ban, including you.

Playing the victim card when you were also in the middle of it is not cool man

I admit I was not nice, but neither were those who attacked me. If someone is civil with me I'm civil with them, but attack me and you'll get no holds barred treatment.

I'm not playing the victim, I just want same treatment for those who attacked me for daring to have negative opinion (and I was told by a mod that one of their posts insulting me was not against rules)

As i have said in above post, I saw many posts with negative opinions, but never saw someone being attacked and called a troll for expressing it.

just give those those snowflakes (seriously i saw people trash talking manga series I LOVE and didn't make such drama as they did) same treatment you gave me and I'll call it quits.

 

[sterven]

I admit I was not nice, but neither were those who attacked me. If someone is civil with me I'm civil with them, but attack me and you'll get no holds barred treatment.

I'm not playing the victim, I just want same treatment for those who attacked me for daring to have negative opinion (and I was told by a mod that one of their posts insulting me was not against rules)

As i have said in above post, I saw many posts with negative opinions, but never saw someone being attacked and called a troll for expressing it.

just give those those snowflakes (seriously i saw people trash talking manga series I LOVE and didn't make such drama as they did) same treatment you gave me and I'll call it quits.

Listen man i haven't read the relevant thread nor do i want to but ima give a little piece of advice just report and block. You're not gonna change anyone's mind here not the lurkers, not the members, and certainly not the staff. Say your piece engage with whomever you wish and ignore the rest its the only way you're gonna have any piece of mind. Take it from me been there done that.

 

[Yatsuki]

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