Isshiki-san wa Koi o Shiritai. - Vol. 11 Ch. 53 - Rokutanda Meishi Chooses Underwear?

[Goldni]

feels like its taking too long for anything to happen and when it finally does i know its going to be the last chapter

 

[Kaito57]

and then you remember she is 16 or something, the whole reason they aren't married and pumping out babies is that she can't, legally.

I'm not talking about sex but just lust. I know she's still 17 (18 in "a few months" if i recall) but this guy acts like being merely attracted to her in a sexy way is like the worst thing ever while being (if I recall again) only 2-3 years older than her: it's not like he's a 40yo creeping on a toddler, ffs !!

Plus there's the whole matter of Japan's emphasis on respect- she's his inspiration and his superior at work- and the fact that Meishi is the one who put his foot down on waiting at least until she's of age. So, naturally, having an erotic dream of his (legally underage) girlfriend in spite of that? Probably feels like both hypocrisy on his part and a shameful lack of self-control.

Okay, fair argument here, but I still think it seems a bit stupid to stress that much over it.

 

[RockyRose]

I'll never understand this manga's tendency to flirt with ecchi but inability to commit and infuse fanservice or just physicality more. Feels like it constantly holds back in a way that feels unnatural on multiple levels, lol.

 

[RockyRose]

As other comments have said, she's not yet of legal age. She's 16-17, whereas IIRC he's 19-20. So it would be a textbook definition of statutory rape. Plus there's the whole matter of Japan's emphasis on respect- she's his inspiration and his superior at work- and the fact that Meishi is the one who put his foot down on waiting at least until she's of age. So, naturally, having an erotic dream of his (legally underage) girlfriend in spite of that? Probably feels like both hypocrisy on his part and a shameful lack of self-control.

Why the hell did the author make her 17? Isn't she, like, a detective? I've been skimming for a while. The story wouldn't be any different if they had made her 19 or in her early 20s, no? Reminds of that one catgirl manga. I guess the author just wanted to invent a reason to drag out their relationship and chose the weirdest possible way?

 

[hezmund]

Why the hell did the author make her 17? Isn't she, like, a detective? I've been skimming for a while. The story wouldn't be any different if they had made her 19 or in her early 20s, no? Reminds of that one catgirl manga. I guess the author just wanted to invent a reason to drag out their relationship and chose the weirdest possible way?

It's Japan. Unfortunately a non insignificant number of people (predominantly men) have an extremely thinly veiled fetish towards young women, and in some cases outright pedophilic inclinations within the demographic that consumes manga. It's why so many of the more ecchi/hentai stories are set in high school, and why lolita content is a thing.

There is an argument to be made that it's better to consume said content through fictional mediums, but considering Japan still has an issue with underage compensated dating and their highly questionable idol culture, it's not really what i'd call a convincing argument.

(Also not saying this isn't a problem in the rest of the world, it is, Japan is just seemingly more open about it)

 

[Kagimizu]

Why the hell did the author make her 17? Isn't she, like, a detective? I've been skimming for a while. The story wouldn't be any different if they had made her 19 or in her early 20s, no? Reminds of that one catgirl manga. I guess the author just wanted to invent a reason to drag out their relationship and chose the weirdest possible way?

And you just answered your own question. A story is driven by its conflict, and the conflict isn't always a matter of confronting external antagonistic forces. The conflict of "he wants to wait until she's old enough while she aggressively flirts with him" is also a valid (if frustrating for some) example. Helped by the fact that the one time he did almost act on her advances, it was heavily implied she wasn't nearly as ready for it as she claimed she was. So he had to be the figurative and literal adult in the relationship and restrain himself.

It's Japan. Unfortunately a non insignificant number of people (predominantly men) have an extremely thinly veiled fetish towards young women, and in some cases outright pedophilic inclinations within the demographic that consumes manga. It's why so many of the more ecchi/hentai stories are set in high school, and why lolita content is a thing.

There is an argument to be made that it's better to consume said content through fictional mediums, but considering Japan still has an issue with underage compensated dating and their highly questionable idol culture, it's not really what i'd call a convincing argument.

(Also not saying this isn't a problem in the rest of the world, it is, Japan is just seemingly more open about it)

Is it better or worse that Japan is open about this stuff...? Also, to my understanding "compensated dating" is just as often literal dates; going out for food, going to movies, etc. It's more comparable to an escort service than prostitution. And unfortunately, underage escorts/prostitutes are very much a thing in other countries, including if not especially the West. Since sex work is so heavily frowned upon, there's no means of regulation or protection.

The idol stuff I'd also blame on corporations rather than the people. These companies go out of their way to facilitate and encourage parasocial relationships with their idols so the fans will spend more money. Which, shocker, turns out to be horrible for the mental health of all actually involved.

Ironically, while I'm very much of the "fiction should not be equated to reality" opinion and people should be allowed to enjoy whatever fictional content they enjoy, I did hear a legitimate argument on the point when discussing the subject with a therapist. Namely that such "content" is a source of pleasure and stimulation, much like other stimulants (drugs, caffeine, alcohol, etc) and that if one isn't careful or capable of self-regulation, the pursuit of ever-increasing stimulation can escalate to dangerous and then illegal, devastatingly harmful levels. I am still of the opinion that fiction =/= reality and anyone who blurs that line is ultimately responsible for the consequences of their own actions, but it was refreshing to hear an argument with actual logic behind it.

 

[Purplelibraryguy]

Ha! Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander. Anyway, anything we might have seen in a picking-her-underwear sequence, we already got to see at the beginning just because.

 

[FGRayz]

meishi become ecchi bc he thought but when rina accually do thats normal ? what a corrupt society