Kimi wa Yotsuba no Clover - Ch. 11 - It'll be fine.

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:nyoron: uh thats not what i expected was gonna happen with this broken locked scenario aint gonna lie. Thought someone was gonna locked Uichi in there or something but yeah nope
 
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Great twist here, more proof of how good this thing is. Cool Girl could've easily been someone horrible and it would have made plenty of sense, but since she's actually just a goofball who loves some random Vtuber so much she's gotta skip class to watch him the whole tone and possible scenario here changes.
 

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So uh, is Indonesian considered an easy language to learn or not? Easier than Japanese at least?
Well, don't ask me. Indonesian is my first language instead of local language, so speaking this language has always been like breathing to me. I can try to give you the answer though.

Why Indonesian might be easy to learn among other languages:
1. It uses latin alphabet
No question about this one. Using the most widely used alphabet will entirely skip the process of learning the letters

2. The pronounciation is consistent with how the word is written
Spoken english is harder to learn than written one because the pronounciation is inconsistent due to the influence of many cultures but insufficient communication between them (or something like that, idk what the hell am I spewing here). I heard French is even worse in that regard.
However, Indonesian is like malay or japanese. What is written is exactly how you pronounce it. The only thing you need to watch out is which pronounciation does "e" used since we only recognize "e" but we either spell it "e" or "è" depending what word is it.

3. No past, present, and future tense. You use the same words and structure for all of them.
Personally I lament the lack of differentiation since it makes it harder to write in artistic sense, but the lack of it makes learning Indonesian way way less complex than english.

4. Less vocabulary
Indonesian is a new language. It was invented in 1928 after the Second Youth Pledge as unifying language by the independence movement. It was needed since Indonesia is very very large, but it may not seem that way due to mercator projection. It is claimed that tens of thousands different language and dialect exists in Indonesia, so a unifying language was and is a must.
Anyway, enough of history lesson. Because of that, the vocabulary in Indonesian is fewer than english, though that's just another way to say that Indonesian language lacks variety (which I personally lament too). I once read somewhere that Indonesia only has like 120k words, compare that to more than 1 million words in English. Take that with a grain of salt though, I tried to find the source but I can't seem to find it.
Fun fact: many law terms in Indonesian still uses Dutch since the law here is from Dutch colonialism days but the vocabulary in Indonesian is incapable of accurately rewrite Dutch-written law.

5. Indonesian is rooted in Malay language
Indonesian vocabulary is a mix of malay, arabic, javanese, dutch, and many other languages, both local and not, but it is dominated by Malay. Many malaysians are capable to understand Indonesian to some degree, and vice versa. So, if you can speak Malay somewhat, Indonesian should be easier to learn.


I guess that was it. Those were all I could think of. I think it's easy enough to learn since I know a french and a german guy who learned Indonesian from engaging in Indonesian discussion and shitposting of a certain gacha game.
The difficulity might lay in the literature to learn the language that internationally famous enough. All I could think of is Tetralogy of Laskar Pelangi (EN: Rainbow Troops) by Andrea Hirata. I think Tere Liye's book could work too.

To be fair, I don't see many reasons to learn Indonesian as a foreigner. If you're looking to work here, most college educated people here should be able to speak English. The other reason I could think of is that japanese culture is very very popular in Indonesia that you could say that it has become an integral part of the local culture. Watching anime is mainstream here since anyone who grew up with TV should've at least watched 3—4 different anime. That's why otaku communities here are very large compared to other countries (excluding japan ofc). This particular gacha game I've been playing for 5 years has a very organized and developed national and local community, and they are also active in International group too, as long as it's not infested by woke, especially LGHDTV+. I mean, I already mentioned a french and a german who learned some Indonesian just by engaging in shitposting group.
Otherwise, you should just learn either chinese, russian, or arabic. With the decaying dominance of the west, it could be the next big thing in the future.

Edit: Oh, forgot to mention this, but Indonesia is in south east asia, and SEA people on the internet are often described as toxic. Well, it's not entirely wrong lol. Don't be surprised with casual racism here.
 
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To be fair, I don't see many reasons to learn Indonesian as a foreigner
Yeah, I don't really intend to. I appreciate the extensive insight, though.
most college educated people here should be able to speak English
Interesting. I guess this explains the volume of activity originating from Indonesia, like scanlation or gamedev. Decent ESL proficiency, even among the educated, isn't all that common in the world, I think (and Japan is apparently hilariously bad with it).
 

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