Kirinji Gate - Vol. 8 Ch. 53 - Proud Daddy

[MangaDex]

 

[GoblinGuy]

Wouldn't Kiriya already have won on page 22, when Majin played the same tile he'd end up ron-ing? And doesn't that also means he's in furiten or something?

 

[Amplify]

Wouldn't Kiriya already have won on page 22, when Majin played the same tile he'd end up ron-ing? And doesn't that also means he's in furiten or something?

Nah, it's fine because it wasn't discarded by one of the others right before him, it'd gone all the way around and come back to him.

 

[lead36]

Wouldn't Kiriya already have won on page 22, when Majin played the same tile he'd end up ron-ing? And doesn't that also means he's in furiten or something?

Furiten only takes into account

a) when you folded a winning tile before - meaning you cant call on it later for ron, only draw it yourself for tsumo.
b) if someone folded your winning tile but you passed it on during that turn (until it's your turn again)

There is an additional Han for winning on the last tile, hence why he got a Mangan out of it. (Mangan being the first guaranteed point total threshold - 8000 - at 5Han. You can achieve Mangan with 3 or 4 Han if your Fu is enough.)

In this case he had 3 Han from the Dora triplet, 1 Red tile (those counts 1 Han each in the variants they are used in) and the final Han he got for calling there.

Majin is impressed by Kiriya reading that far into the situation, being able to snatch up potentially crucial additional points by guessing Majin would drop a pair of red dragons to have a safe runout towards the end.

 

[Kanami-chan]

It's nice to see this match presented in Fraudjin's PoV.
We see his thought process and struggle, he isnt just a "lol I win" hack.

 

[JaffaOrange]

Wouldn't Kiriya already have won on page 22, when Majin played the same tile he'd end up ron-ing? And doesn't that also means he's in furiten or something?

He didn't have a yaku. Houtei was his only yaku.

There was a lot of bs involved. He had to force Majin to discard the last tile and his hand was only worth mangan because of the kandora. Completely nonsensical but a fun way to troll majin.

 

[codetaku]

He didn't have a yaku. Houtei was his only yaku.

There was a lot of bs involved. He had to force Majin to discard the last tile and his hand was only worth mangan because of the kandora. Completely nonsensical but a fun way to troll majin.

Nothing you said is wrong, but to someone who doesn't know riichi mahjong, your explanation could make it sound like Majin just wasn't thinking deeply enough--after all, Kiriya only had 1 tile hidden, so it should be obvious that he doesn't have any yaku, right?

But his calls actually made it look like he had tanyao--no terminals or honor tiles. Majin couldn't imagine someone specifically going for JUST houtei, and if Kiriya's hand qualified as tanyao, that means his naked pair wait couldn't possibly be an honor tile (or terminal). Thus, Majin discarded the one honor tile that he also knew Maguro couldn't call (because if it was Maguro's wait, Maguro WOULD be in furiten), both turns in a row.