Kuromaku Ikka ni Tensei Shita Kedo Gensaku Mushishite Dokuritsu Suru - Ch. 1 - Avoiding Ruin and Gaining One's Independence

[SoEu]

"Yeah, Imma read this just to wait the biweekly stuff."
"Slave market"
Nah, fuck this shit

 

[Thufiel16]

Solid solid solid

 

[namingwrongs]

"Yeah, Imma read this just to wait the biweekly stuff."
"Slave market"
Nah, fuck this shit

Was interesting until it got to the slave part, that's where I noped out simply because it's so damned overused that I'm tired of it

It's subverted in this one because he doesn't actually end up with a slave. His appraisal skill informs him that all the ones there are already magically registered to his father, which is exactly what he was looking into slaves to avoid.

You know what would be innovative for once? A MC thats actually a villain instead of this lukewarm goodie two shoe slop.

There are, in fact, lots of those. You're just looking in the wrong places I guess.

 

[Tavero]

There are, in fact, lots of those. You're just looking in the wrong places I guess.

Yeah? Enlighten me.
Every single Villain/ess isekai, I have read, has the setting of "the villan gets killed at the end, I must be good and do good to prevent that fate". Every single one.

I'm not talking about revenge stories, but even there it's pretty rare for a mc to actually be a villain instead of just getting revenge on a few people. Even in Redo Healer the MC actually recruits a lot of his enemies instead of killing them.
Out of my head, I only know of The executed sage where the MC acts as a villain. It's a rare case.

 

[namingwrongs]

Yeah? Enlighten me.
Every single Villain/ess isekai, I have read, has the setting of "the villan gets killed at the end, I must be good and do good to prevent that fate". Every single one.

I'm not talking about revenge stories, but even there it's pretty rare for a mc to actually be a villain instead of just getting revenge on a few people. Even in Redo Healer the MC actually recruits a lot of his enemies instead of killing them.
Out of my head, I only know of The executed sage where the MC acts as a villain. It's a rare case.

Well, the first thing to keep in mind is that I personally have no interest in villain protagonists, so when it shows up I drop the story and generally forget it. As such, the only specific ones I can recall offhand are Overlord which I'm sure you already know and Maou no Hajimekata, which may not be villainous enough for your standards. Secondly, a lot of my experience is in raw Japanese web novels, which I don't know if you're willing or able to read. It takes a certain level of popularity or at least positive reception for one of them to get a manga, and villains are less likely to get it. Then even if it gets one, it has to draw the attention of a translator group to show up here. If you're looking for stuff on this site specifically, you may have more luck looking for stuff that was originally Chinese.

 

[TrueGoddessReincarnation]

Can't be a japanese fantasy without the mandatory slaves and the "I dont want a game over" trope done for the billionth time! Well I hope it at least has some fucking tiddies I guess?

 

[LuckyNChance]

Its the usual template, but I like it.

 

[Nivek]

almostt every fanfic issue also apply the mobesuka clones, dude you're already a story breaker ,don't care about something as stupid as canon or following a script, if you need power get it, but this ain't the player story but yours

 

[Nivek]

He is going independent from his family, just to avoid getting involved with the Hero.

He is even trying to avoid getting any core characters into his fold (instead going for NPC's who are meant to die), just to not get involved with the Hero.

Though getting that beastgirl is going to backfire for sure, as her death is supposed to make the Hero question about the social situation. But now that wouldn't happen, the Hero won't get character development he was supposed to get.

as previously commented, a problem every fic and now fic like original fiction/mobesuka clones have, there's not thing as a canon script once youre' in the world, even Yumiella did have the game trying to mess with her but that was a genuine twist for the anime

 

[Tavero]

Well, the first thing to keep in mind is that I personally have no interest in villain protagonists, so when it shows up I drop the story and generally forget it. As such, the only specific ones I can recall offhand are Overlord which I'm sure you already know and Maou no Hajimekata, which may not be villainous enough for your standards. Secondly, a lot of my experience is in raw Japanese web novels, which I don't know if you're willing or able to read. It takes a certain level of popularity or at least positive reception for one of them to get a manga, and villains are less likely to get it. Then even if it gets one, it has to draw the attention of a translator group to show up here. If you're looking for stuff on this site specifically, you may have more luck looking for stuff that was originally Chinese.

Hmmm, It's unterstandable that you can't remember the names if you're not interested in the genre, but come on. You're the one who wrote I'm looking in the wrong places. Should be easy for you then to tell me the right places or go to them by yourself for a sec to look up the names again?

Yes I know overlord and I considered him a villain in the Anime. But after reading the light novels it's obvious it's the subordinates that are the villains, not him. Ainz is just being dragged along and too scared to call them back. Either because he doesn't want to disappoint them or because he fears treason.
All events that ended up in killing innocents have been planned or executed by demiurge or albedo. I love Overlord and have read every novel (except v16), but the the fact that Ainz gives his subordinates so much leeway and never educates them in case of miscommunication and misinterpretation annoys me quite a bit. Sure it's understandable that he is such a bad leader considering he doesn't even want to lead, but still.

I don't know Maou no Hajimekata but I will check it out thanks.

 

[namingwrongs]

Hmmm, It's unterstandable that you can't remember the names if you're not interested in the genre, but come on. You're the one who wrote I'm looking in the wrong places. Should be easy for you then to tell me the right places or go to them by yourself for a sec to look up the names again?

Well, as I mentioned this was about raw JP web novels. Search for 悪役主人子 on kakuyomu or syosetsu and you'll find a number of hits. Some of them are just like this where a non villain reincarnates into a villain's body, but some of them are just plain villains. It's even more common in the adult oriented nocture novels, but again I don't know if you're willing or able to read Japanese web novels at all, let alone R-18 ones. Aside from that, it's apparently ubiquitous in the Chinese Xianxia genre.

 

[Tavero]

Well, as I mentioned this was about raw JP web novels. Search for 悪役主人子 on kakuyomu or syosetsu and you'll find a number of hits. Some of them are just like this where a non villain reincarnates into a villain's body, but some of them are just plain villains. It's even more common in the adult oriented nocture novels, but again I don't know if you're willing or able to read Japanese web novels at all, let alone R-18 ones. Aside from that, it's apparently ubiquitous in the Chinese Xianxia genre.

My Japanese is pretty basic but even if it was better, I have no interest in WN or LN. Overlord is a rare exception.

I didn't know you were talking exclusively about LN. My original comment was based on the availability of manga with MC villains. I don't know why you used a completely different medium for your argument that "there are lots available". I am kinda confused.

 

[namingwrongs]

My Japanese is pretty basic but even if it was better, I have no interest in WN or LN. Overlord is a rare exception.

I didn't know you were talking exclusively about LN. My original comment was based on the availability of manga with MC villains. I don't know why you used a completely different medium for your argument that "there are lots available". I am kinda confused.

I mentioned in the first reply that I was talking about WN because villains aren't generally popular enough to get serialized outside of porn. You asked for specifics anyway. WN as a medium have a lower bar for entry, so it's easier to find things that aren't mainstream popular there. Again, if you're looking specifically for stuff on this site, try xianxia.

 

[es_kan]

wow, this fucking sucks.

sigh

clicks chapter 2

 

[Fuhgeddaboudit]

something, something, the writer's barely-disguised fetish

at least mc has a somewhat unique design, seen it a million times but usually on side characters.

 

[wankerLin]

A naked dogeza is an instant follow for me