[Mainsite] Push notifications not working on second device

[Remocracy]

I signed up for push notifications on my first device and it worked great. On my second device and I'm not getting a single push notification. I have tried turning push notifications on and off again to no avail.

 

[rdn]

Which device is your second device?

 

[Remocracy]

Which device is your second device?

Both of these are Chrome on MacOS. The first was a laptop, the second is a Macbook

 

[rdn]

A short googling shows that iOS devices seem to have trouble with the Push notifications.

In any case, its not my job to fix Xenforo its Software and if that device isnt supported theres not much I can do. It seems to work for many other users well enough.

 

[Remocracy]

A short googling shows that iOS devices seem to have trouble with the Push notifications.

This isn't iOS it's MacOS. iOS doesn't support web push notifications to my knowledge. But Google Chrome shouldn't work differently for different devices.

 

[rdn]

You can give me your useragent and i can try to ask xenforo devs whats up with it.

 

[Remocracy]

You can give me your useragent and i can try to ask xenforo devs whats up with it.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/108.0.0.0 Safari/537.36

 

[T10_]

Both of these are Chrome on MacOS. The first was a laptop, the second is a Macbook

@Remocracy @rdn from what I see on the xenforo forum, push notifications weren't supported on Apple devices for a long time (see here) since it just wasn't supported in Safari. But this was changed a few months ago (see also here), which means @Remocracy's devices are probably just too old to support it or Xenforo still needs "adjustments before it will work"

In Safari 16 in macOS 13 or later, Safari supports web push — push notifications

iOS doesn't support web push notifications to my knowledge. But Google Chrome shouldn't work differently for different devices.

Chrome is basically a re-skin of Safari. It gives you the same experience like on Android phones, but it uses Safari's rendering engine and is probably limited by other Apple shenanigans.

So it's just a skill issue for using Apple devices

 

[Remocracy]

Chrome is basically a re-skin of Safari.

I AM NOT ON A PHONE I AM ON THE DESKTOP PUSH NOTIFICATIONS HAS WORKED ON DESKTOP SINCE ALWAYS

 

[T10_]

I AM NOT ON A PHONE I AM ON THE DESKTOP PUSH NOTIFICATIONS HAS WORKED ON DESKTOP SINCE ALWAYS

So what?

Blink is a fork of the WebCore component of WebKit

read more here, thanks

Using Apple devices is a skill issue after all

 

[Remocracy]

So what?

read more here, thanks

Using Apple devices is a skill issue after all

I have never had problems with multi-device notifications from Reddit, Instagram, etc. Only this website doesn't work.

 

[Remocracy]

Blink is a fork of the WebCore component of WebKit

Also this literally doesn't make a difference. Chrome on Windows and Chrome on Mac use the same underlying codebase. There should not be too many differences between them.

 

[T10_]

I have never had problems with multi-device notifications from Reddit, Instagram, etc. Only this website doesn't work.

Because they went out of their way to support Apple

Apple doesn't support the standard so push notifications on Safari on macOS and iOS are not possible.

XF uses the standards which have been adopted by all browsers and OS, escept for Apple.

Read more here, thx

Indeed a skill issue

 

[T10_]

Also this literally doesn't make a difference. Chrome on Windows and Chrome on Mac use the same underlying codebase. There should not be too many differences between them.

The difference is Apple. Windows and Android can support the standard, so why can't Apple.

I'm convinced it's a skill issue

 

[Remocracy]

Because they went out of their way to support Apple


Read more here, thx

Indeed a skill issue

If this were true then I never would have been able to setup push notifications on the first device. The only difference I can think of is that the first device is on MacOS 13 while the second device is on MacOS 12.

 

[T10_]

If this were true then I never would have been able to setup push notifications on the first device. The only difference I can think of is that the first device is on MacOS 13 while the second device is on MacOS 12.

You found it out after all. You would have known from the beginning if you just read what I wrote in my first reply

this was changed a few months ago (see also here), which means @Remocracy's devices are probably just too old to support it

 

[Remocracy]

You found it out after all. You would have known from the beginning if you just read what I wrote in my first reply

But your link is talking about Safari on MacOS. Chrome on MacOS supports the Push API and has so for a long time. I have been getting Chrome push notifications from Reddit since Day 1 of owning this device.

 

[T10_]

I have been getting Chrome push notifications from Reddit since Day 1 of owning this device.

Software updates exist, you know. Saying you "never had problems" or "since day 1" doesn't mean a lot.
It either really is some website problem because it didn't register your subscription (it doesn't work that way tho, it's your device making requests to a feed), or it's some change in macOS 13
The question now is just if you still get push notifications on your device with macOS 12. And are you super sure chrome didn't update on that device since macOS 13 was released?
Bzw reply to this so I can test notifications on my second device.

 

[Remocracy]

Software updates exist, you know. Saying you "never had problems" or "since day 1" doesn't mean a lot.
It either really is some website problem because it didn't register your subscription (it doesn't work that way tho, it's your device making requests to a feed), or it's some change in macOS 13
The question now is just if you still get push notifications on your device with macOS 12. And are you super sure chrome didn't update on that device since macOS 13 was released?
Bzw reply to this so I can test notifications on my second device.

Testing, uno dos tres

 

[Remocracy]

The question now is just if you still get push notifications on your device with macOS 12. And are you super sure chrome didn't update on that device since macOS 13 was released?

I got a push notification this afternoon from Reddit, so I know it's doing something correct