Mato Seihei no Slave - Vol. 10 Ch. 80 - Slave - Sky

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What's up with the polls! The main female is in the 4th place
All cultured man wants wife like Tenka :
  1. High sex appeal & alluring
  2. Onee-san type, young adult
  3. Good in money management
  4. Will marry and have child
  5. Working Wife
The author makes her too perfect as a woman. And this trait is so Ultra Rare in every anime / manga / novel. Unfortunately usually falls into "Losing Heroine".

Ren Yamashiro is suddenly become popular from her domination loss and very big gap moe when the reward is begin, when she becomes dog because MC sees her loves to dog and treat him as dog, which triggers a suggestion about dog words in mind.

And there is Mira who is manly and we can treats her like male buddy in female body, only minus that she is so virgin that she is awkward in sexual engagement.

Then this Kyouka... is so 2000-ish. Very typical Tsundere and totally resembles of fusion Louise (Zero no Tsukaima) + Shana (Shakugan no Shana). In Fact, both Louise & Shana has same VA and made from same studio.

Kyouka lose because tsundere is so obsolete, plus simply because Tenka overshadow everyone since the very first poll and her appearance for her perfectly matched every boy's dream.
 
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All cultured man wants wife like Tenka :
  1. High sex appeal & alluring
  2. Onee-san type, young adult
  3. Good in money management
  4. Will marry and have child
  5. Working Wife
The author makes her too perfect as a woman. And this trait is so Ultra Rare in every anime / manga / novel. Unfortunately usually falls into "Losing Heroine".

Ren Yamashiro is suddenly become popular from her domination loss and very big gap moe when the reward is begin, when she becomes dog because MC sees her loves to dog and treat him as dog, which triggers a suggestion about dog words in mind.

And there is Mira who is manly and we can treats her like male buddy in female body, only minus that she is so virgin that she is awkward in sexual engagement.

Then this Kyouka... is so 2000-ish. Very typical Tsundere and totally resembles of fusion Louise (Zero no Tsukaima) + Shana (Shakugan no Shana). In Fact, both Louise & Shana has same VA and made from same studio.

Kyouka lose because tsundere is so obsolete, plus simply because Tenka overshadow everyone since the very first poll and her appearance for her perfectly matched every boy's dream.
In what universe is Kyouka a tsundere? She's probably closer to a himedere (which are underrated) but I wouldn't put her squarely in any of the dere types and definitely not a tsundere. If she was an early 2000's tsundere she would be beating the shit out of Yuuki after every reward.

She's not my favorite (Konomi is best girl.) but she's definitely better than Tenka. Especially given how she also has most of the good points you credited to other characters.
 
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In what universe is Kyouka a tsundere? She's probably closer to a himedere (which are underrated) but I wouldn't put her squarely in any of the dere types and definitely not a tsundere. If she was an early 2000's tsundere she would be beating the shit out of Yuuki after every reward.
Himedere is just a subspecies of tsundere, along with newest type Ijidere (Hayase Nagatoro).

Also, tsundere is not always smacking the guy everytime. That term rooted and become popular from ancient 4:3 era anime Kimi ga Nozomu Eien (KimiNozo in short) with typical catchphrase "It's not like I care you or anything, hmph !".
Tsundere is all about not being honest about their feeling to their crush, but use abusive or sassy attitude as their gimmick way to show their affection.

Look, she just keep saying "you beast", or "It's just for reward" while blushing, but she often angry whenever Tenka deliberately join just to tease Yuuki
 
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Himedere is just a subspecies of tsundere, along with newest type Ijidere (Hayase Nagatoro).

Also, tsundere is not always smacking the guy everytime. That term rooted and become popular from ancient 4:3 era anime Kimi ga Nozomu Eien (KimiNozo in short) with typical catchphrase "It's not like I care you or anything, hmph !".
Tsundere is all about not being honest about their feeling to their crush, but use abusive or sassy attitude as their gimmick way to show their affection.

Look, she just keep saying "you beast", or "It's just for reward" while blushing, but she often angry whenever Tenka deliberately join just to tease Yuuki
First of all, Nagatoro is hardly a new type of character and hime dere is as much a subspecies of tsundere as kuudere or yandere but that doesn't really have anything to do with Kyouka.

Tsundere is being unable to admit your feelings of love and responding in an extremely hostile way instead. Kyouka shows no real antagonism or aggression to Yuuki and she isn't really in love with him yet so she isn't a tsundere. She doesn't like the rewards but it would be weirder if she did like them. The rewards are based on Yuuki's inner desire's so it's perfectly natural to be annoyed with him because of them but it never really goes beyond annoyance and she never gets particularly angry at Tenka or seriously tries to stop her.

The only reason I brought up hitting Yuuki was because you specifically called her an early 2000s tsundere and while tsundere's are still annoyingly popular but that was when they were at their most toxic. They're thankfully much milder nowadays.

I also want to be clear in that I personally hate tsundere characters. Kyouka isn't best girl but I still like her and I don't want to see her being slandered by being called a tsundere. She's really supposed to be like an S&M mistress and you can't just say every dom is tsundere.
 
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Tsundere is being unable to admit your feelings of love and responding in an extremely hostile way instead. Kyouka shows no real antagonism or aggression to Yuuki and she isn't really in love with him yet so she isn't a tsundere. She doesn't like the rewards but it would be weirder if she did like them. The rewards are based on Yuuki's inner desire's so it's perfectly natural to be annoyed with him because of them but it never really goes beyond annoyance and she never gets particularly angry at Tenka or seriously tries to stop her.
Again you mistaking what tsundere is. Maybe you need to check wikipedia first for summary.

Here I give you more popular example :
  • Asuka Langley (Evangelion)
  • Rin Tohsaka (Fate/ milk series)
  • Akiha Tohno (Tsukihime)
  • Kirino Kosaka (OreImo)
  • Yui Kotegawa (To Love-Ru)
  • Chitoge Kirisaki (Nisekoi)

Tsundere is not always smacking MC everytime just for slapstick joke. They always start at belittle / distrust MC, and then when they start develop the feeling to MC, they cover it with their usual sassy behavior, but gradually care to MC until they confessing or maybe seggs, and then they tend to showing more loving side of her.

Kyoka is not an exception.

Also, you mistaking himedere too. Himedere is as sassy as Tsundere but they tend to act like noble or princess and belittling MC like a proletar plebs at first. But even when they start dating, her princess-like attitude still showing
 
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Again you mistaking what tsundere is. Maybe you need to check wikipedia first for summary.

Here I give you more popular example :
  • Asuka Langley (Evangelion)
  • Rin Tohsaka (Fate/ milk series)
  • Akiha Tohno (Tsukihime)
  • Kirino Kosaka (OreImo)
  • Yui Kotegawa (To Love-Ru)
  • Chitoge Kirisaki (Nisekoi)

Tsundere is not always smacking MC everytime just for slapstick joke. They always start at belittle / distrust MC, and then when they start develop the feeling to MC, they cover it with their usual sassy behavior, but gradually care to MC until they confessing or maybe seggs, and then they tend to showing more loving side of her.

Kyoka is not an exception.

Also, you mistaking himedere too. Himedere is as sassy as Tsundere but they tend to act like noble or princess and belittling MC like a proletar plebs at first. But even when they start dating, her princess-like attitude still showing
You're clearly not even properly reading what I'm saying at this point. Actually, I'm starting to wonder if we even read the same manga.

Arguing any further is a waste of time. Have a nice life.
 
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You're clearly not even properly reading what I'm saying at this point. Actually, I'm starting to wonder if we even read the same manga.

Arguing any further is a waste of time. Have a nice life.
You're just denial and go away because you can fortify your own opinion.

begone then.
 
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They pulled a frickin Majin Buu. Let's just hope that she doesn't also have a super powerful childlike form
 
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I'm sorry, the fights in this manga are getting increasingly ridiculous. In the very last moment of the fight, we find out that he can now get absorbed into the sword, and then kind of flung out from it in some kind of semi-ethereal form, and for some reason this allows him to totally wreck her and at the same time extract all the absorbed people from her body totally safe and sound? It's hard to find it cool when it's so completely out of left field and convenient.
 
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Welp. I'm all for all the girls here. Specially mommy Fubuki🤤
 

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