Mezametara Saikyou Soubi to Uchuusenmochi Datta node, Ikkodate Mezashite Youhei toshite Jiyuu ni Ikitai - Ch. 45.1

[finalm]

I agree but the point was that they were arguing whether it was the hardware or the software that was "wrong" because they couldn't get the performance to match the specs during testing, the answer is a combination of both, but any changes would change the specs which means that the problem currently was a skill issue with the pilot (to get the performance they were expecting, as demonstrated), though a rework of the hardware as well as software and better trained pilots would be better, as a well trained pilot with good instincts will always get the most out of any ship (all vehicles have some shortcomings that can be alleviated by a good pilot/driver/captain etc, no vehicle ever has been perfect).

I don't think this reasoning is sound. For it to be a "skill issue" would mean that the ship was built correctly on both sides and the design itself is to blame for the fact that it steers badly enough that a highly skilled pilot is required to operate it up to specs. That does not make sense - this fact would have to be part of the plan from the beggining for such an explanation to be valid. If it was, then why test it with subpar pilots and expect it to perform as predicted (and they clearly do, otherwise ther'd be no big quarrel)?

The reality of it IMO is that someone indeed screwed up and that is the result. Sure, technically it could have been both sides, but that is unlikely - if both hardware and software dropped the ball then you'd expect a multitude of different issues, not a single specific one.

 

[WereMuppet]

I don't think this reasoning is sound. For it to be a "skill issue" would mean that the ship was built correctly on both sides and the design itself is to blame for the fact that it steers badly enough that a highly skilled pilot is required to operate it up to specs. That does not make sense - this fact would have to be part of the plan from the beggining for such an explanation to be valid. If it was, then why test it with subpar pilots and expect it to perform as predicted (and they clearly do, otherwise ther'd be no big quarrel)?

The reality of it IMO is that someone indeed screwed up and that is the result. Sure, technically it could have been both sides, but that is unlikely - if both hardware and software dropped the ball then you'd expect a multitude of different issues, not a single specific one.

Once again, you're arguing a separate issue.
They were arguing which of them was wrong since they couldn't get the expected performance to match the specs, Hiro showed them that you could indeed get the expected performance to match the specs with a skilled pilot, hence for them to get the results they wanted to see the issue was with the lack of skill of the pilot, who is wetware (which is both hardware and software).

They knew (or thought) that the specs they had would show a certain performance because that's what their analyzis of Krishna's logs showed that they'd get, they didn't realize that their pilots, who have just flown big slow armored ships, couldn't handle such a ship.

That they might have to reconsider how they design the ship when it comes to hardware and software or reconsider what performance they expect out of it due to the less skilled pilots or train the pilots to handle such a ship is beside the point.

As an example, racing cars are designed with skilled/proffesional drivers in mind, the performance they expect is not expected from the average Joe Noname delivery driver from Wisconsin.

 

[finalm]

Once again, you're arguing a separate issue.
They were arguing which of them was wrong since they couldn't get the expected performance to match the specs, Hiro showed them that you could indeed get the expected performance to match the specs with a skilled pilot, hence for them to get the results they wanted to see the issue was with the lack of skill of the pilot, who is wetware (which is both hardware and software).

They knew (or thought) that the specs they had would show a certain performance because that's what their analyzis of Krishna's logs showed that they'd get, they didn't realize that their pilots, who have just flown big slow armored ships, couldn't handle such a ship.

That they might have to reconsider how they design the ship when it comes to hardware and software or reconsider what performance they expect out of it due to the less skilled pilots or train the pilots to handle such a ship is beside the point.

As an example, racing cars are designed with skilled/proffesional drivers in mind, the performance they expect is not expected from the average Joe Noname delivery driver from Wisconsin.

It's not seperate, you are just baselesly insisting on something that was never stated in the manga. Where exactly is it said that the ship they are testing is in any way based on Krishna or it's logs? Had they indeed copied it's tech without much overall uderstanding, then you'd have a point. However, there is no mention of such a thing, for all we know, it's the company's own design. So how in the world would they not be aware that it requires insane skill to properly operate?

Yeah, that's the point. The people building the race cars know that only a pro can drive it to it's full potential. Why then do you think Dwergr would not know this of their own product? It makes no sense, that's what I've been telling you.

 

[JohnnyGB1183]

Sighh I thought this series would pick up when that noble girl went back to her family, but things just got more dull.

I really don't care for these new dwarf girls who are obviously gonna join the harem

You mea Kris? The manga is currently in volume 5 of the novel.

Spoiler

Kris will return for 1-2 to chapters of vol 7 and then have a large role in volume 8. However, she'll not join the crew and is current focused on her training and education to someday take over her family's title and holdings. All part of her plan and effort to remove any and all barriers that stand between her and Hiro. And the novel points out a few times that Hiro goal to get a house and land on a planet would be best done in the Territory of Kris's family.

As for the dwarf girls:

Spoiler

Hiro will not do anything with them for some time because of their appearance, specifically vol 10. They will play the role of Hiro engineers and mechanics, allowing them to offer repair services on their mothership to other mercenaries when working with the Imperial forces. They also give them the ability to salvage and retrofit small and medium ships that they can sell for addition profit.

Unlike other harems, the girls of Hiro's crew all have an official role to fulfill in his little operation. The Maidroid Mei, will have her role expanded upon at the end of the current arc the manga is covering.

Spoiler

She'll be directly controlling and piloting their new mother ship and I think will have the ability to control and command the battle-bots Hiro will later buy near the end of volume 8.

As for the dullness

Spoiler

Things will pick up later in the volume with a kidnapping and rescue plotline and especially in the next arc where there's a large military operation against the crystal life-forms and their home-system.

 

[Luke_chase]

I hope the ship is so fast that it warps to another corner of the universe and we never see the dwarf kids again 💯

 

[GridLite]

Mc trust them too much just because they're women smh. Learn to say no, dumbass

 

[v3hemenc3]

will the MC and his crew increase the number of ships in his fleet later? I know they're getting a capital ship but I just thought it'll be nice if Elma gets her Swan back or if the Dwarf twins bring their own ship.

 

[JohnnyGB1183]

Mc trust them too much just because they're women smh. Learn to say no, dumbass

As I explained in the post above,

Spoiler

he does say no for a rather long time in the novel. The girls do come to work for him, though only on lease from their company. Despite the girls best efforts he resists touching them until vol.10, five volumes from where the manga currently is vol.5. By that point the girls have more than earned their keep as his crew's mechanics/engineers and his trust.

But until then, the only girls he's officially fucking off screen are Mimi, Elma and occasionally Mai. Though mostly Mimi and Elma.

 

[saredesu]

You mea Kris? The manga is currently in volume 5 of the novel.

Spoiler

Kris will return for 1-2 to chapters of vol 7 and then have a large role in volume 8. However, she'll not join the crew and is current focused on her training and education to someday take over her family's title and holdings. All part of her plan and effort to remove any and all barriers that stand between her and Hiro. And the novel points out a few times that Hiro goal to get a house and land on a planet would be best done in the Territory of Kris's family.

As for the dwarf girls:

Spoiler

Hiro will not do anything with them for some time because of their appearance, specifically vol 10. They will play the role of Hiro engineers and mechanics, allowing them to offer repair services on their mothership to other mercenaries when working with the Imperial forces. They also give them the ability to salvage and retrofit small and medium ships that they can sell for addition profit.

Unlike other harems, the girls of Hiro's crew all have an official role to fulfill in his little operation. The Maidroid Mei, will have her role expanded upon at the end of the current arc the manga is covering.

Spoiler

She'll be directly controlling and piloting their new mother ship and I think will have the ability to control and command the battle-bots Hiro will later buy near the end of volume 8.

As for the dullness

Spoiler

Things will pick up later in the volume with a kidnapping and rescue plotline and especially in the next arc where there's a large military operation against the crystal life-forms and their home-system.

Thank you. You handled this the best.
I would like to elaborate but I don't want to be the guy who spoils future content. I am someone who believes it is best to read in order without looking fast forward so when the moment comes it is much more impactful.

Butthurt because one person isn't enjoying your favorite arc?

It's a discussion thread and I'm discussing my thoughts, if you don't like my thoughts you can ignore it instead of being an asshole.
Have a nice day.

You don't have any thoughts. All I hear is "whine whine boring boring". Twice. When I clearly said it is based on the novel afterall, set up is important to story. It is different than weekly shonen publications where they need to keep readers hooked with cliffhangers, novels don't do that. That is why adaptations do cold opens and/or shuffle contents around to varying success, but personally I don't like that. You have to go through even the dull moments because there is reason when the author wrote them.

I also mentioned you can look up the novels and read fast forward but you also don't do that. You just waiting for people to spoil you. Bet you only watched "funny anime moments" on tiktok but never the full show. Not my fault you have ADHD.
You slighted the girls as dull when they all have their roles in the story and I can't ignore that. Your opinion sucks and sometimes it would be better to keep to yourself, you're just polluting the internet. Like 5 minutes craft videos kind of suck

Happy new year.

 

[JohnnyGB1183]

will the MC and his crew increase the number of ships in his fleet later? I know they're getting a capital ship but I just thought it'll be nice if Elma gets her Swan back or if the Dwarf twins bring their own ship.

Well if you really want to know

Spoiler

There'll start discussing and planning to get Elma her own small ship in vol.10.