Net no "Oshi" to Real no "Oshi" ga Tonari ni Hikkoshite Kita - Vol. 2 Ch. 10
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ty for the chapter! Been sick all week and this chapter was a nice treat
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Should "refrained" on pg. 8 be "relented?" I'll admit it could go either way of "he's chewing" vs. "he's making a little kid's 'I won't eat that' face."
I'm normally pretty tolerant of typical MC density, and played properly, it can be part of a really funny dynamic, but... something's just off about the way it's handled here. I don't know if it's because we're supposed to take him for an otherwise normal adult man, or the fact that many of the girls' advances are pretty grounded in reality and not obviously over-the-top enough, or the way that his reaction is to laugh things off in confused terror but then immediately forget about it, or what, but... I feel like it's strayed into the territory of Behavior That Needs To Be Explained.
It's honestly getting a little too close to "laughing at someone for their disability or orientation/inclination towards sex/romance" for me to find charming. Is this just me?
I'm normally pretty tolerant of typical MC density, and played properly, it can be part of a really funny dynamic, but... something's just off about the way it's handled here. I don't know if it's because we're supposed to take him for an otherwise normal adult man, or the fact that many of the girls' advances are pretty grounded in reality and not obviously over-the-top enough, or the way that his reaction is to laugh things off in confused terror but then immediately forget about it, or what, but... I feel like it's strayed into the territory of Behavior That Needs To Be Explained.
It's honestly getting a little too close to "laughing at someone for their disability or orientation/inclination towards sex/romance" for me to find charming. Is this just me?
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Thanks for the chapter!
At this point it might better to confess to her vtuber friend.
Not that funny, but still not that weird to the point of not finding it charming.
It's mostly because I have found bigger dense mc and ended up reading the whole thing for me.
At this point it might better to confess to her vtuber friend.
to me is still on the level that it could a forum post with the response being "Wait was she hitting on me?" Revelation.
Not that funny, but still not that weird to the point of not finding it charming.
It's mostly because I have found bigger dense mc and ended up reading the whole thing for me.
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Me too. Even ones where like, all the other characters, male bystanders included, tell the MC that they're weird or dumb - made it through fine. I'm having a much stronger annoyance/disgust response to this guy than is warranted by just his density, and I'm having a little trouble putting my finger on exactly why. So I'm hoping somebody in a similar boat can explain it and have it click for me.
Maybe because without any kind of explanation of what he thinks is going on or why it's not okay, we're left to assume that the manga regards his behavior as either normal or obviously understandable. And I get what's happening, and it's obviously That Trope, but that's not good enough to be a character's motivation, here?
If he doesn't have an alternate theory of what's behind Mafuyu's actions, then I need an explanation for why he doesn't take a normal course of action like matching her pace and flirting back because he's into it, or rolling with it because it's just quirky behavior from a childhood friend, or telling her how uncomfortable it makes him, because reaching panic attack levels of distress over this and then just acting a moment later like it never happened hits weird. Or show us that he DOES have an alternate theory and that there's some misunderstanding and their motives are at cross purposes or something, like a good reason he wouldn't want to be seen with her, or him trying to set her up with someone else. Anything at all.
If you don't, it defaults to "he thinks intimacy is icky and it makes him feel all weird and he has like, a clinically significant reaction to it" and "his subsequent passivity and fear of conflict rises to the level of hurting the people who care about him," which is a real fucking bummer to read.
Edit: For clarity and to remind those who have forgotten, Mafuyu is reintroduced to him by sitting down in front of him in class and saying "I don't date anyone because that spot in my heart is reserved for Tendou Souma, and I want to cherish these feelings" and Tendou Souma, yes, that one, sitting behind her thinks to himself "lol, it reminds me of a manga." He knows what genre of manga that is, and what the girl saying it means. Her bestie then excitedly announces that he's her first love, to his face, and drags her next to him, after which he can't focus on the lecture because of how attracted he is to her.
She's kuudere-ing out and overwhelmed, but there is zero room for him not understanding that she's super hung up on him, and he's way into her. That's not "density" anymore and goes beyond the boundaries of that trope.
Maybe because without any kind of explanation of what he thinks is going on or why it's not okay, we're left to assume that the manga regards his behavior as either normal or obviously understandable. And I get what's happening, and it's obviously That Trope, but that's not good enough to be a character's motivation, here?
If he doesn't have an alternate theory of what's behind Mafuyu's actions, then I need an explanation for why he doesn't take a normal course of action like matching her pace and flirting back because he's into it, or rolling with it because it's just quirky behavior from a childhood friend, or telling her how uncomfortable it makes him, because reaching panic attack levels of distress over this and then just acting a moment later like it never happened hits weird. Or show us that he DOES have an alternate theory and that there's some misunderstanding and their motives are at cross purposes or something, like a good reason he wouldn't want to be seen with her, or him trying to set her up with someone else. Anything at all.
If you don't, it defaults to "he thinks intimacy is icky and it makes him feel all weird and he has like, a clinically significant reaction to it" and "his subsequent passivity and fear of conflict rises to the level of hurting the people who care about him," which is a real fucking bummer to read.
Edit: For clarity and to remind those who have forgotten, Mafuyu is reintroduced to him by sitting down in front of him in class and saying "I don't date anyone because that spot in my heart is reserved for Tendou Souma, and I want to cherish these feelings" and Tendou Souma, yes, that one, sitting behind her thinks to himself "lol, it reminds me of a manga." He knows what genre of manga that is, and what the girl saying it means. Her bestie then excitedly announces that he's her first love, to his face, and drags her next to him, after which he can't focus on the lecture because of how attracted he is to her.
She's kuudere-ing out and overwhelmed, but there is zero room for him not understanding that she's super hung up on him, and he's way into her. That's not "density" anymore and goes beyond the boundaries of that trope.
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I hope Mafuyu has fans, because I am not one. Also, screw that other V-tuber. Can't just announce something like that without getting confirmation. Are there agents that can get involved in this, because I can't help but feel that's not ok.
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What do you mean, she confessed the first time we saw her? The only thing he hasn't noticed is her cold war with the other heroines.
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Iirc, he knows, but didn't accept her confession cause he had feelings for the streamer.
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Apart from the fact that he hears their entire conversation with her friend on chapter 4 page 9 as well as the continuation from chapter 5 onwards, he even says "It kind of feels like a manga"
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Yeah, but his brain overheats later when she looked him straight in the eyes and says she wants to be his girlfriend, while they were alone.Apart from the fact that he hears their entire conversation with her friend on chapter 4 page 9 as well as the continuation from chapter 5 onwards, he even says "It kind of feels like a manga"
I dunno, the vtuber girl is a mess but Mafuyu has something sinister feeling and underhanded about her. I really don't like her
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nah, shizuka by far is bestgirl, she’ll win SURELY, mafuyu is good too and wouldn’t mind her winning either, as long as the voice actress doesn’t win, it’s all good
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problem keeps piling up!
poor Shizuka
poor Shizuka
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