Nihonkoku Shoukan - Ch. 43 - Air Raid on the Imperial Capital

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I didn't realize the Harpoon Block II had land attack capability, though I wonder how they're doing it here without GPS guidance.

They utilize INS. No GPS or other advanced systems or communication are required.

It is, however, not as accurate as true PGMs because of that. INS is basically "dead reckoning" just much more precise with internal electronics. It would be accurate enough to hit a large stationary building, however, like how you see here.
 
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Correct (except for the anti-air capabilities, that's why Japanese vessels have VLS with Standard Missile variants and/or ESSM). They're Type 90 ASMs being used with likely INS guidance on land targets. They are very similar in capabilities to the RGM-84 Harpoon in things like range (later variants of the Harpoon with extended range), warhead, etc.



Haven't read the WN/LN, but surveying wouldn't be difficult with things like ground-penetrating radar and test drillings and whatever methods are available for an advanced first-world nation in 2015. For oil, minerals/metals and whatnot we already know what to look for. The issue isn't finding the materials on the planet, the issue in our world is finding one where you can drill/excavate and it's economically viable to do so (for example, if you found the world's largest deposit of rare earth metals or gold or what have you but it was several miles right below Los Angeles... well that's not going to be utilized as it currently sits). When there's no one living there, the land is untouched by previous use and economical viability takes a backseat to "get this out of the ground, now" then it's not much of a problem.

It's just much more difficult to find those resources that you can access for a profit in today's world and thus people think it's more difficult than it is. Back thousands of years ago, people in antiquity were just finding veins of silver, iron, gold, etc. ore just on the surface and mining that. That's likely the kind of availability that would be in that area since it didn't seem to be previously touched and is virgin land.
In the story, the MoD modified the SSMs to have anti-air capability in order to destroy large targets such as Flying Battleships like the Pal Chimera and the Magic Airships of the Cryseilis Holy Kingdom
 
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Trying to have Japan deplete their resources is surprisingly a sound strategy from them, not that it will work because they don’t have enough to stop them. Japan cannot replenish their weapon at the speed they’re being used. When it comes to advanced weapons they require imports which they do not have here.
I was thinking that too, a war of attrition is the better option for them, provided they have enough morons to send to their deaths (which i think they do, actually)
Its not like the escort vessels have infinite missiles, or their planes infinite bombs to drop.
The resupplying of those weapons takes time and money, and im not confident japan can restock at the same speed they could before, now that they are no longer on earth to import them.
 
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Big difference here compared to GATE is that this was sudden teleportation without a moment to prepare. The unemployment would be insane as most exports would stop, and lack of imports would be hurting for a long time. There’s possible Japan also got a couple million of refugees with the teleportation as well, with all foreign workers and tourists being there at that time.

Well for unemployment I think it’s not. Employment will be hard blooming when Japan knows that this world is thousand years behind in technology. All things that are considered "outdated" can be sold now. Making Japan's economy skyrocket.

Plus raw oil and raw resources are cheaper like dirt cheap. Because people in this world don't have any use for them yet.
Also at this point in the story. Japan has already established diplomatic relations with most of the 3rd civilized area.

Those refugees can be helped easily in the short term. Japan already needed workers since 2010 when their society started being transferred into old people society. Just Japan ethic that stops the huge refugee wave. But this time they need to accept it one way or another. Plus modern people are the most precious resource nonetheless.

For the weaponry Mitsubishi Heavy Industry already provides Japan without any problem in this real world. So I don’t think there are any weaponry problems in the new world either. (except they're using missiles like the time they fought the Gra Valka Empire in a big open sea encounter). Thinking about those rare resources is now dirt cheap as a plus.
 
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In the story, the MoD modified the SSMs to have anti-air capability in order to destroy large targets such as Flying Battleships like the Pal Chimera and the Magic Airships of the Cryseilis Holy Kingdom

Hmm. Okay, then. Thanks for that info, I haven't read the novel.
I have read the Japanese wiki for the novel, however, and seeing just HOW FUCKING INSANELY LARGE those things are from the artwork from the novel, that's justified. You could definitely do something like that with a firmware/software update and some reconfiguring and allow the active radar terminal guidance to slam into those things. They are the something the size of large major naval vessels in the sky. Radar could definitely target them.
 
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Well for unemployment I think it’s not. Employment will be hard blooming when Japan knows that this world is thousand years behind in technology. All things that are considered "outdated" can be sold now. Making Japan's economy skyrocket.

Plus raw oil and raw resources are cheaper like dirt cheap. Because people in this world don't have any use for them yet.
Also at this point in the story. Japan has already established diplomatic relations with most of the 3rd civilized area.

Those refugees can be helped easily in the short term. Japan already needed workers since 2010 when their society started being transferred into old people society. Just Japan ethic that stops the huge refugee wave. But this time they need to accept it one way or another. Plus modern people are the most precious resource nonetheless.

For the weaponry Mitsubishi Heavy Industry already provides Japan without any problem in this real world. So I don’t think there are any weaponry problems in the new world either. (except they're using missiles like the time they fought the Gra Valka Empire in a big open sea encounter). Thinking about those rare resources is now dirt cheap as a plus.
Yeah. After this war,MHI has gone full production of SSMs and AAMs 24-7, fully automated. That's why Japan has 'enough' missiles during the Great Naval Invasion. The problem they encountered during that time is the improper allocation of assets in Nahanath.

BTW, As for the dirt-cheap raw materials, they're buying those titanium and aluminum ores in the Meerky Kingdom due to the fact that Meerky is a magic-based country and give importance to magic ores.
 
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What's more likely is they formed their own American enclave in Okinawa or somewhere else and keep friendly allied relations with Japan.

Continuity of government is a huge thing for the American government (we have lines of succession much more further down the line than most countries and we have things like the designated survivor). That would be very difficult with likely no Congressional members being in Japan at the time, but you could have a military junta/martial law for a bit and maybe have elections in the new world after things go down. American ambassador would be in Japan would likely present a civilian-government official choice and be the most senior member of authority there.
Continuity of government, when there is no American government, is a curious idea. I think declaring their martial enclave in Okinawa, or even the main four islands, makes more sense. The question is if they would judge all of the JDSF as a match for one carrier group.

The Aircraft Carrier groups are little nations, in their own way. A navy, air force, and nuclear depot. There have been instances of regional COMS taking policy into their own hands like PACCOM did with the Philippines in the 2000's. If there were suddenly no higher authority, I'd believe it if they chose to go Rogue Warlord.
 
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Dedicating a whole page to her titties being out is so fucking dumb :rolleyes:
Remember gooners: jerk off before your writing session.
I think this was meant to be more symbolic of just how many had died at the tower. Where's the point in hiding them if there's nobody else alive to see them?
 
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I think this was meant to be more symbolic of just how many had died at the tower. Where's the point in hiding them if there's nobody else alive to see them?
Yeah, sure I get it. It's like that part in Saving Private Ryan where in order to demonstrate the horror and brutality of war Tom Hanks whipped out his hog.
 
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It's super weird how much the author focused on the operator's tits
I know right? This manga has some questionable hyperfixations and the weird artstyle. Some of the deaths are like something straight from Happy Souls. Thank goodness I've heard that LNs are more serious and arts are just amazing
 
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I don't remember this part in the web or light novel either, so unless I have early onset Alzheimer's the mangaka decided to put this in on a whim 💀
I did read the translated Web Novels (A Mob of Deer) and the quote is
"With a ripping noise, her clothes rubbed against the bricks, tearing in various places. Once she got out, she’d probably draw looks from everyone and get embarrassed, but her life was paramount."

So this very moment was already laid out by the WN.
 
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Is it ever addressed how the Japanese resupply their ammo?
In Japan if you want to buy a car, you buy a Mitsubishi
In Japan if you want to buy construction machinery, you buy a Mitsubishi
In Japan if you want to buy a tank, you buy a Mitsubishi
In Japan if you want to buy a fighter jet, you buy a Mitsubishi
In Japan if you want to buy a ship or warship, you buy a Mitsubishi
In Japan if you want to buy a space rocket, you buy a Mitsubishi
In Japan if you want to buy a guided missile, you buy a Mitsubishi
Do you get the point?

I invite you to check the list of products Mitsubishi manufactures under aerospace, missiles, tanks, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Heavy_Industries#Products

The same applies for the other big Japanese conglomerates like Kawasaki, Fuji, etc. 90% of their military equipment is manufactured in Japan in their own plants be it original homegrown design or licensed designs (which seems people can't get it in their heads that licensed design means they get the designs, specs and whatever else tooling the original company provides so Japan can manufacture it in their factories, it's not like they sell them the whole thing or a set of legos to assemble)

Like I said and I'll repeat that they have transferred it doesn't mean their companies, engineers and chemist have lost all knowledge of how to make explosives, bullets and bomb casings and all their military machinery they've been manufacturing themselves for decades! It's not like Japan have regressed to the stone age. Their whole country as they were in 2015, land, buildings and everything was transferred with them, it's not a single high-school dude iseakaied with only the vague knowledge left in their brain.

If they can design and manufacture their own assault rifles do you think they'd depend on foreign countries to manufacture standard 5.56mm or 7.52mm ammo? If they can design and manufacture their own AAM-3 to AAM-5 missiles which are equivalent to American sidewinders and amraams, why would you think they are unable to manufacture more?

But, but, but the raw materials!? So their geologists, engineers and chemists lost their knowledge for how to prospect and process minerals? Their refineries, chemical plants, foundries, factories, power plants that have been doing their usual job all this time stopped working? If they were able to negotiate for agricultural stuff with Qua-trayne and found Quila had oil and negotiated with them, they can't prospect for mineral mines and buy raw materials from the other countries they have diplomatic relations with?

But, but, but the microchips and electronics!? That most cheap manufacture has moved to China and the cutting edge EUV chip lithography is monopolized by Dutch ASML and latest nodes microchip manufacturing is done by TSMC doesn't mean Japan has stopped manufacturing electronics. Just like other fabs are still pumping trailing edge or older nodes microchips for electronics that don't need cutting edge nodes and just like Intel have their own fabs in the USA and Israel. Matsushita, Hitachi, Canon, etc still have their own fabs in Japan, they may not be 2024 3 or 4 nanometer nodes but still decades/centuries ahead of anything from that world and more than enough for their timeline and military usage. And still up to this day, a lot of the best electronic components are still made by Japan. And as discussed in another chapter thread ASML is irrelevant since their EUV didn't overtake other chip lithography till 2017, Nihonkoku is 2015's Japan. Also for military the chips have never used cutting edge nodes because of lack of testing and robustness needed for such usage. Another example of why some fields don't use cutting edge microchip nodes is space and satellites where they still use 90's design/node processors because they need to work flawlessly for decades because space radiation wrecks microchips with tiny cutting edge nodes and cause electrons to jump where you don't want them. Astronauts need to replace their ipads and laptops every few months for those reasons.
 
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In Japan if you want to buy a car, you buy a Mitsubishi
In Japan if you want to buy construction machinery, you buy a Mitsubishi
In Japan if you want to buy a tank, you buy a Mitsubishi
In Japan if you want to buy a fighter jet, you buy a Mitsubishi
In Japan if you want to buy a ship or warship, you buy a Mitsubishi
In Japan if you want to buy a space rocket, you buy a Mitsubishi
In Japan if you want to buy a guided missile, you buy a Mitsubishi
Do you get the point?

I invite you to check the list of products Mitsubishi manufactures under aerospace, missiles, tanks, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Heavy_Industries#Products

The same applies for the other big Japanese conglomerates like Kawasaki, Fuji, etc. 90% of their military equipment is manufactured in Japan in their own plants be it original homegrown design or licensed designs (which seems people can't get it in their heads that licensed design means they get the designs, specs and whatever else tooling the original company provides so Japan can manufacture it in their factories, it's not like they sell them the whole thing or a set of legos to assemble)

Like I said and I'll repeat that they have transferred it doesn't mean their companies, engineers and chemist have lost all knowledge of how to make explosives, bullets and bomb casings and all their military machinery they've been manufacturing themselves for decades! It's not like Japan have regressed to the stone age. Their whole country as they were in 2015, land, buildings and everything was transferred with them, it's not a single high-school dude iseakaied with only the vague knowledge left in their brain.

If they can design and manufacture their own assault rifles do you think they'd depend on foreign countries to manufacture standard 5.56mm or 7.52mm ammo? If they can design and manufacture their own AAM-3 to AAM-5 missiles which are equivalent to American sidewinders and amraams, why would you think they are unable to manufacture more?

But, but, but the raw materials!? So their geologists, engineers and chemists lost their knowledge for how to prospect and process minerals? Their refineries, chemical plants, foundries, factories, power plants that have been doing their usual job all this time stopped working? If they were able to negotiate for agricultural stuff with Qua-trayne and found Quila had oil and negotiated with them, they can't prospect for mineral mines and buy raw materials from the other countries they have diplomatic relations with?

But, but, but the microchips and electronics!? That most cheap manufacture has moved to China and the cutting edge EUV chip lithography is monopolized by Dutch ASML and latest nodes microchip manufacturing is done by TSMC doesn't mean Japan has stopped manufacturing electronics. Just like other fabs are still pumping trailing edge or older nodes microchips for electronics that don't need cutting edge nodes and just like Intel have their own fabs in the USA and Israel. Matsushita, Hitachi, Canon, etc still have their own fabs in Japan, they may not be 2024 3 or 4 nanometer nodes but still decades/centuries ahead of anything from that world and more than enough for their timeline and military usage. And still up to this day, a lot of the best electronic components are still made by Japan. And as discussed in another chapter thread ASML is irrelevant since their EUV didn't overtake other chip lithography till 2017, Nihonkoku is 2015's Japan. Also for military the chips have never used cutting edge nodes because of lack of testing and robustness needed for such usage. Another example of why some fields don't use cutting edge microchip nodes is space and satellites where they still use 90's design/node processors because they need to work flawlessly for decades because space radiation wrecks microchips with tiny cutting edge nodes and cause electrons to jump where you don't want them. Astronauts need to replace their ipads and laptops every few months for those reasons.
I was just wondering how they'll resupply because they're in a different world.
 
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While indeed modern parts like missiles and jets are hard to build, shells and bullets are easy to produce. I believe that in the long run, without imports the technology will regress to the 90s
 

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