Please Take My Brother Away! - Ch. 25 - Ultimate Plan GO!
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Ultimate plan, my ass. What a little d***h*** that Shi Fen is. Now we know why he's such a jerk. Like father, like son.
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What the fuck is with these comments.
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@FredFriendly
Shi fen is a piece of shit? you fucks are pieces of shits. Kids shouldn't have to deal with parents getting a divorce.
Shi Fen is trying his best to try to find a way for his parents to stay together. He's a fucking child and you little shits are calling him the problem?
I guess being a spoiled little shit makes you project hard.
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Shi fen is a piece of shit? you fucks are pieces of shits. Kids shouldn't have to deal with parents getting a divorce.
Shi Fen is trying his best to try to find a way for his parents to stay together. He's a fucking child and you little shits are calling him the problem?
I guess being a spoiled little shit makes you project hard.
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@kuzaemon
I agree that kids shouldn't be put through divorce and young shi fen doesn't want his parents to split, I was literally deriding his parents and the shit situation they created? Am I not supposed to acknowledge the negative influence of the parents and the divorce on the children's development? Am I not supposed to acknowledge that the pair have become troubled adolescents, shi fen in particular consistently displaying anti-social behavior? It's not a good brother that steals from his friend and sister, and it's not a stable person who roundhouses a child who insults them.
I can appreciate their struggles and the good that they display, but that's a very small portion of this manga. The reason I even posted my comment was to lament the situation because I started reading only expecting a comedy about siblings, you know? And since you decided on getting personal, I suppose me being a child of parents who divorced means the two siblings are spoiled as well?
I agree that kids shouldn't be put through divorce and young shi fen doesn't want his parents to split, I was literally deriding his parents and the shit situation they created? Am I not supposed to acknowledge the negative influence of the parents and the divorce on the children's development? Am I not supposed to acknowledge that the pair have become troubled adolescents, shi fen in particular consistently displaying anti-social behavior? It's not a good brother that steals from his friend and sister, and it's not a stable person who roundhouses a child who insults them.
I can appreciate their struggles and the good that they display, but that's a very small portion of this manga. The reason I even posted my comment was to lament the situation because I started reading only expecting a comedy about siblings, you know? And since you decided on getting personal, I suppose me being a child of parents who divorced means the two siblings are spoiled as well?
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@kuzaemon Are you the child of a divorce? Do you actually know what it feels like to never see one of your parents again because they divorced? Like @Lotvk said, "shi fen in particular consistently displaying anti-social behavior" and now he's dragging his innocent little sister along with him in his hair-brained (I should say, no-brained) scheme. It's just too bad that they didn't split the kids up with Shi Fen going with dad and Shi Miao going with mom then Shi Fen would realize just how wrong his mistaken allegiance to his dad was. Alas, I suspect that dad going off in a taxi might be the last the kids actually see of him. The ingrate Shi Fen no doubt does not realize or appreciate how lucky he is that he ended up with his mom instead of his alcoholic dad.
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"What a little d***h*** that Shi Fen is. Now we know why he's such a jerk. Like father, like son." @FredFriendly
Yeap, thats what you posted. Not -
"The ingrate Shi Fen no doubt does not realize or appreciate how lucky he is that he ended up with his mom instead of his alcoholic dad."
Your little comment is just baiting hard to piss people off. Highly offensive as well for anyone that does go through their parents going through divorce at a young age.
I assume you and your buddy @Lotvk are just projecting off the main character considering how rude of a comment you make on a public forum.
Shi fen is literally a child that can't make his 'good' or 'moral' choices because why? HE'S A CHILD.
Completely uncalled for and really just irritating you'd make such baiting comments.
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Ok, so calling him a piece of shit is no bueno, but him calling me a child of a divorce, which is significantly more hurtful is ok? And don't give me any crap about how it's a 'politically correct question', you know it's not.
Let me just call him a d***h*** instead because that's ok right? I'm just calling him what he called a character in a fiction.
"Disagreeing with an opinion is totally fine. All we ask is that you keep to the topic at hand and refrain from resorting to personal attacks on other involved parties. To that end, please avoid .. terminology where the intended outcome is to be offensive."
Yeap, thats what you posted. Not -
"The ingrate Shi Fen no doubt does not realize or appreciate how lucky he is that he ended up with his mom instead of his alcoholic dad."
Your little comment is just baiting hard to piss people off. Highly offensive as well for anyone that does go through their parents going through divorce at a young age.
I assume you and your buddy @Lotvk are just projecting off the main character considering how rude of a comment you make on a public forum.
Shi fen is literally a child that can't make his 'good' or 'moral' choices because why? HE'S A CHILD.
Completely uncalled for and really just irritating you'd make such baiting comments.
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Ok, so calling him a piece of shit is no bueno, but him calling me a child of a divorce, which is significantly more hurtful is ok? And don't give me any crap about how it's a 'politically correct question', you know it's not.
Let me just call him a d***h*** instead because that's ok right? I'm just calling him what he called a character in a fiction.
"Disagreeing with an opinion is totally fine. All we ask is that you keep to the topic at hand and refrain from resorting to personal attacks on other involved parties. To that end, please avoid .. terminology where the intended outcome is to be offensive."
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@kuzaemon
You cannot equate calling a character a name with calling another poster a name. Characters in a manga do not have feelings, unlike posters on MD.
And to my reading of @FredFriendly's comments, he was not calling you a child of divorce. I believe he is asking rhetorically in order to justify his argument. Whether or not Fred's question is politically correct is not subject to the rules. He did not resort to a personal attack to argue his point.
You cannot equate calling a character a name with calling another poster a name. Characters in a manga do not have feelings, unlike posters on MD.
And to my reading of @FredFriendly's comments, he was not calling you a child of divorce. I believe he is asking rhetorically in order to justify his argument. Whether or not Fred's question is politically correct is not subject to the rules. He did not resort to a personal attack to argue his point.
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@Zephyrus Actually, it was not a rhetorical question and I was not trying to justify my remarks. I wanted to know if @kuzaemon's angry response was actually due to being the child of divorced parents and, subsequently, whether he had never seen one of his parents again. Why? Because I am, indeed, the child of divorced parents. I last saw my father when I was four years old when he left for military service and, while he was away, my mother divorced him. If my comments were offensive to @kuzaemon, well, I can't help that. There are hundreds, if not thousands of comments that I've read here on mangadex that I find offensive but that's just too bad for me.
I am also a parent and, as such, know that children as young as four years old are capable making 'good' and 'moral' choices, and are certainly capable of knowing the difference between "right" and "wrong."
edit: I just found this interesting article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2103849/Research-shows-toddlers-understand-right-wrong-just-19-months.html
I am also a parent and, as such, know that children as young as four years old are capable making 'good' and 'moral' choices, and are certainly capable of knowing the difference between "right" and "wrong."
edit: I just found this interesting article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2103849/Research-shows-toddlers-understand-right-wrong-just-19-months.html
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Oh, you were calling Shi Fen an urethra! I was confused for a minute.
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I'm really not sure how you guys see Shi Fen's behavior as "anti-social". He's a very clear prankster archetype and the manhua is very overt about this. He has lots of friends (from various Chinese series summaries where it's stated that he's popular with everyone but his sister), he takes care of Shi Miao (he cooks in their household), I don't see how you your view of his character can be so warped. Perhaps it's because you're treating this as a dark and serious series just because of a small backstory arc. Shi Fen is obviously a very caring brother when the chips are down, something that's shown in THIS EXACT ARC. Also, FredFriendly, you got your facts wrong as he did in fact end up with his dad. That's the reason he was hesitant to go into his mother's shop, why she immediately asked if he had told his father, etc. I also find your inability to forgive a child for not seeing the nuance and problems in his well intention-ed actions to be utterly baffling, especially if you're actually a father. He's a KID. Do you seriously expect him to understand the emotional turmoil of a marriage turning bad while dealing with the stress of the fallout? While his age isn't stated here the fact that he thought running away to the bus stop next door would work puts him squarely in the elementary school ages. @FredFriendly I've seen you trying to stir up drama about hating characters or stories on other series' comment sections before. You start with an extreme negative take on a character or author and then when someone gets upset and challenges your interpretation you act as if you've been wronged when you're the one starting the argument in the first place. If you don't like it, either
1) express it in a less purposefully inflammatory way
2) don't get upset when someone dishes the same to you if you don't want to do that or
3) just don't comment on stuff you clearly hate with a burning passion
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I'm really not sure how you guys see Shi Fen's behavior as "anti-social". He's a very clear prankster archetype and the manhua is very overt about this. He has lots of friends (from various Chinese series summaries where it's stated that he's popular with everyone but his sister), he takes care of Shi Miao (he cooks in their household), I don't see how you your view of his character can be so warped. Perhaps it's because you're treating this as a dark and serious series just because of a small backstory arc. Shi Fen is obviously a very caring brother when the chips are down, something that's shown in THIS EXACT ARC. Also, FredFriendly, you got your facts wrong as he did in fact end up with his dad. That's the reason he was hesitant to go into his mother's shop, why she immediately asked if he had told his father, etc. I also find your inability to forgive a child for not seeing the nuance and problems in his well intention-ed actions to be utterly baffling, especially if you're actually a father. He's a KID. Do you seriously expect him to understand the emotional turmoil of a marriage turning bad while dealing with the stress of the fallout? While his age isn't stated here the fact that he thought running away to the bus stop next door would work puts him squarely in the elementary school ages. @FredFriendly I've seen you trying to stir up drama about hating characters or stories on other series' comment sections before. You start with an extreme negative take on a character or author and then when someone gets upset and challenges your interpretation you act as if you've been wronged when you're the one starting the argument in the first place. If you don't like it, either
1) express it in a less purposefully inflammatory way
2) don't get upset when someone dishes the same to you if you don't want to do that or
3) just don't comment on stuff you clearly hate with a burning passion
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Ignoring your passive aggressive remark, I don’t understand the conflict you seem to have found. Speaking for myself, I very deliberately used the term anti-social appropriately and without any mistake. If you are confusing the term with “asocial”, I suppose that’s that. You may call it obtuse, but there is an important definitional delineation to observe. That aside, since you seem invested enough to follow the chain and create your own comment, I invite you to re-read my previous posts thoughtfully. I very clearly said I understand hard childhood circumstances tend to increase the prevalence of developmental and behavioral issues, and one obviously should not blame children for the circumstances of their environment.
As for what seems to be your personal issues with the other poster you mentioned, I recommend you take that discussion to private messages or an admin report if you feel it is appropriate. Or perhaps use the block function. My advice is obviously unsolicited and may be uncalled for, but I feel it is appropriate given the direction the tone of discussion seems to keep going.
Ignoring your passive aggressive remark, I don’t understand the conflict you seem to have found. Speaking for myself, I very deliberately used the term anti-social appropriately and without any mistake. If you are confusing the term with “asocial”, I suppose that’s that. You may call it obtuse, but there is an important definitional delineation to observe. That aside, since you seem invested enough to follow the chain and create your own comment, I invite you to re-read my previous posts thoughtfully. I very clearly said I understand hard childhood circumstances tend to increase the prevalence of developmental and behavioral issues, and one obviously should not blame children for the circumstances of their environment.
As for what seems to be your personal issues with the other poster you mentioned, I recommend you take that discussion to private messages or an admin report if you feel it is appropriate. Or perhaps use the block function. My advice is obviously unsolicited and may be uncalled for, but I feel it is appropriate given the direction the tone of discussion seems to keep going.
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While there is a clear distinction between "asocial" and "antisocial", I'm going to ahead and say Shi Fen is clearly neither of them. His "stealing" of petty change and food is always played for humor IN A COMEDY manga, and he more than makes up for any insignificant transgressions when it matters. The jerk with a heart of gold is one of the most common stereotypes in all of media, and also one of the most obvious and easy to identify. The fact that he acts vitriolic towards his sister and best friend should be even more expected and is pretty realistic IMO. It's really weird to me when people hate a character even when the in universe "victims" like him. If you try to counter with some bullshit about how Shi Miao or Kaixin don't like him then I really have nothing else I can say.
While there is a clear distinction between "asocial" and "antisocial", I'm going to ahead and say Shi Fen is clearly neither of them. His "stealing" of petty change and food is always played for humor IN A COMEDY manga, and he more than makes up for any insignificant transgressions when it matters. The jerk with a heart of gold is one of the most common stereotypes in all of media, and also one of the most obvious and easy to identify. The fact that he acts vitriolic towards his sister and best friend should be even more expected and is pretty realistic IMO. It's really weird to me when people hate a character even when the in universe "victims" like him. If you try to counter with some bullshit about how Shi Miao or Kaixin don't like him then I really have nothing else I can say.
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