Ragna Crimson - Ch. 77 - The People of Gehenna

[AK47Read]

From what we know so far, Crimson "must" kill all of the dragons since it seems they're connected to the realization of world magic and Crimson's goal seems to be getting rid of it.

Crimson's goal wasn't to get rid of that world of magic or something, but more like trying to usurp the Dragon God and become one himself, as Nebulim said

The Dragon kings need to die to advance his goal since the dragon kings are deathly loyal to the Dragon God, except Gilzea, king of Claws I think. That's why Crimson said he could spare Gil if possible

 

[AK47Read]

Where were these guys in old Ragna's time? Don't be so sure of their righteousness.

No clue. Old Ragna hadn't even beaten Bloodline of Wings yet, so he got his hands too full to care about another bloodline

 

[Lame_Security]

"War, war has changed"

Interesting to see how graphics have evolved. Back then my thought was "holy shit I can see the depths of the wrinkle!"

Back to the manga:

Huh, so Bagram wanted to kill dragons too. Wonder if he's still connected to the king or the progenitor of all dragons.

Also author can you please spare Gargantina?

 

[Lenasien]

Welp, this war will be not good for both sides. Since Scales alliances can watch their battle and observe the trump card

 

[Shunkenshin]

Nah I'd win, will be the next gojo v:

 

[InvinCybul]

So if Ragna breaks into the city he'll kill every human there just by emitting silverine aura?
Good thing he didn't get that deep on his first attempt. I guess that's one of the reasons Sun Cult didn't tell him about them. He'd be worried about using his full strength.
And no chapter next month...

 

[Bohrain]

We know from Kou Tenran that dragons lose their humanity over time. And from Artemisia that a genuinely good person will end up doing horrible things as a dragon if the dragon god compels them to do so. Bagram's goal of coexistence is something that can fail horribly overnight and they are set up to become like bloodline of Scales down the line.
Also since the Sun cult seems to be aware of what is at the bottom of Gehenna judging from Crimson's line to Ruoxi, I reckon that the undead saint is planning on dropping the shard of Banko into that city.

 

[MRain]

No clue. Old Ragna hadn't even beaten Bloodline of Wings yet, so he got his hands too full to care about another bloodline

Did I miss something? why is everyone saying future Ragna haven't beaten wings yet?

 

[ABC4524]

Did I miss something? why is everyone saying future Ragna haven't beaten wings yet?

Because it took future Ragna 20 years from Leo's death to beat the the bloodline of wings. He said as much in chapter 3 page 31. For the current Ragna, it hasn't even been 1 year since getting his powers

 

[Redice]

Who knows, The bloodline of hoars apparently are the good guys in this war btw. But is Ragna Crimson and everyone(except Ragna, my waifu(isn't crimison) and leo's troup) are a bunch of assholes. What i want, Ragna and the bloodline of Hoars made a pact to fuck with the Bloodline of scales, is the most inteligent outcome

Inviting them for an orgy. That's one way to end the war.

 

[Bearil]

Huhe, the bloodline of roars seems to be special. Usually, when you turn into a dragon, you lose all human emotion and attachments but somehow you keep them in the bloodline of roars. They don't help in completing the world magic but instead protect humans and keep their humanity intact. Interesting. Ragna should form an alliance with them.

Correction: Your world view shifts to be dragon friendly and no longer identify yourself as a "human" per se. They can be cruel to humans because to them is like a normal person can feel towards an ape, they can be positive towards them but they will prioritize their own race and wont hesitate to sacrify them if needed. Artemisia is the perfect example, since she didnt hate humans and even wanted their deaths to be as painless as possible but at the same time she wont hesitate to kill them if she needs to

They are friendly because their lord is friendly to that concrete human group, but we dont know yet why the King of Roars thinks that way

Because it took future Ragna 20 years from Leo's death to beat the the bloodline of wings. He said as much in chapter 3 page 31. For the current Ragna, it hasn't even been 1 year since getting his powers

Ragna defeated the Bloodline of Wings in less than a month and its quite blatanty hinted that he wont live for long in exchange of his powers

 

[Dirtbug]

There's a queen?!
Bloodline of roars holds more mysteries

 

[Yurisivel]

I do love me some morally gray factions. The bloodline of roars seems the most human compared to the others.

 

[heccingisconfused]

Interesting to see how graphics have evolved. Back then my thought was "holy shit I can see the depths of the wrinkle!"

Back to the manga:

Huh, so Bagram wanted to kill dragons too. Wonder if he's still connected to the king or the progenitor of all dragons.

Also author can you please spare Gargantina?

I still think the game looks as good as most of the stuff that comes out today because of the artstyle and the allocation of the detail on the characters.

 

[Wataterp]

Correction: Your world view shifts to be dragon friendly and no longer identify yourself as a "human" per se. They can be cruel to humans because to them is like a normal person can feel towards an ape, they can be positive towards them but they will prioritize their own race and wont hesitate to sacrify them if needed. Artemisia is the perfect example, since she didnt hate humans and even wanted their deaths to be as painless as possible but at the same time she wont hesitate to kill them if she needs to

They are friendly because their lord is friendly to that concrete human group, but we dont know yet why the King of Roars thinks that way

But that 2nd seat girl still seems to hold a very deep bond with her little sister, that grandma. Do blood ties take priority over the "dragon kinship"?

 

[Bearil]

But that 2nd seat girl still seems to hold a very deep bond with her little sister, that grandma. Do blood ties take priority over the "dragon kinship"?

According to what we have seen already 100% would abandon her for her King's sake. She would grieve but wouldnt hesitate to kill her and her entire family if needed.

Look a certain King casting away his family in a whym and creating another soon after, or how Artemisia grieved for humans but still killed them, or the dragon of the Bloodline of the Roars who was killed by Ragna just before ,during his first appearance how he was eating a butchered human snack . Future Ragna himself when he was turning into a Dragonkin was feeling how his feelings and memories started to twist before he stopped the progress by stabbing himself with his silver blade

The only one that acted beyond their boundaries was Ortho Zora because he was obessed with his former master that also was the object of his love to the point he had a split personality one being more human like and the other more dragon like, so it seemed a very specific situation with a specific person

 

[jarjaxle]

PLACE YOUR BETS PEOPL!!!!!! HOW MANY PEOPLE AND DRAGONS DIE FROM THAT DOUPLE PAGE SPREAD!!! I BET 50% on BOR and 80 % to 90% on Sun Cult

 

[invrl]

I'd think the dragon god would step in if two dragon kings start duking it out. I get that she's a kid, but she would still be smart enough to know her toys fighting eachother is bad.

I think the Dragon God being a kid was simply how Ultimatia saw the Dragon God. During the fight between Crimson and Ultimatia, Crimson mentions that when he was the King of the Bloodline of Wings the Dragon God was not in the form of a child but rather a formless voice or something similar. It seems that the form of the Dragon God changes from King to King. It's also likely that the interpretation of the Dragon God's message changes from Bloodline to Bloodline due to their King, or at least I remember Crimson saying something that would imply that. Specifically I remember him berating Ultimatia for her interpretation of his guess as to what the Dragon God said.