Rainbow

[MangaDex]

 

[ravas]

Now this is what you call wholesome

 

[amZa]

Uhh, okay? If they're happy with their relationship I think that's fine? However, it's still wrong and they shouldn't show off to public like it's the right thing to do.

Spoiler

Holding hand and staying together, that's still okay but marriage? No no no... You two have gone too far.

 

[Pokari]

I completely get what they were trying to say about the deeper meaning of loving someone as they are vs. for their gender.

But only if you think "lesbian" is a special loaded word speaking to one's fundamental identity, instead of just meaning "a girl who loves a girl" (and, so far, no boys), does the existential pondering over the term make sense. And so, as someone who happens to know a fair number of lesbians for whom this is not particularly a defining trait of their existence (I've also known people ) I'm just like, "uh, yeah, duh, you are lesbians...?" and find myself laughing at the ending.

That said, it's always possible something is lost in translation here; I don't know the implications of the word they were using in Japanese. On top of that, I do get that it's not so easy to think it's not such a big deal in Japan, unlike where I live / the circles I travel in.

@amZa: Bad troll, go away, stop being homophobic in public like it's the right thing to do.

 

[Coziro27]

Rainbow indeed

 

[leviadragon]

Uhh, okay? If they're happy with their relationship I think that's fine? However, it's still wrong and they shouldn't show off to public like it's the right thing to do.

Spoiler

Holding hand and staying together, that's still okay but marriage? No no no... You two have gone too far.

Are you being serious? Are you genuinely being that homophobic?

 

[leviadragon]

Pfft, married for decades "you know, do you think we might be gay?"

Classic clueless lesbian behaviour TBH

 

[leviadragon]

I completely get what they were trying to say about the deeper meaning of loving someone as they are vs. for their gender.

But only if you think "lesbian" is a special loaded word speaking to one's fundamental identity, instead of just meaning "a girl who loves a girl" (and, so far, no boys), does the existential pondering over the term make sense. And so, as someone who happens to know a fair number of lesbians for whom this is not particularly a defining trait of their existence (I've also known people ) I'm just like, "uh, yeah, duh, you are lesbians...?" and find myself laughing at the ending.

That said, it's always possible something is lost in translation here; I don't know the implications of the word they were using in Japanese. On top of that, I do get that it's not so easy to think it's not such a big deal in Japan, unlike where I live / the circles I travel in.

@amZa: Bad troll, go away, stop being homophobic in public like it's the right thing to do.

Yeah I don't think they were referring to Political Lesbianism, a term that doesn't specifically mean homosexual women, but a specific strain of Separatist Feminism that has fallen a bit out of vogue in more recent years. It's similar to how Queer in a political context refers not just an umbrella term for gender and sexual minorities, but also to a specific political libationary LGBT+ movement, directly opposed to Assimilationism. Fascinating stuff to be sure, but not too relevant here. :V

I read this story more as two people with a limited understanding of both their own personal identity, and the meaning and weight of the term they were using due to society not really making it easy to find that information or perform that introspection, pondering what the concept of lesbianism means to them at different stages of their life.

 

[Pokari]

Yeah I don't think they were referring to Political Lesbianism, a term that doesn't specifically mean homosexual women, but a specific strain of Separatist Feminism that has fallen a bit out of vogue in more recent years. It's similar to how Queer in a political context refers not just an umbrella term for gender and sexual minorities, but also to a specific political libationary LGBT+ movement, directly opposed to Assimilationism. Fascinating stuff to be sure, but not too relevant here. :V

I read this story more as two people with a limited understanding of both their own personal identity, and the meaning and weight of the term they were using due to society not really making it easy to find that information or perform that introspection, pondering what the concept of lesbianism means to them at different stages of their life.

Like, okay, this is necessarily an introspective sort of "bring your own baggage" piece, and the five years since my previous comment has been long enough that don't I remember this short at all. My reaction reading it now is sort of the same but hits me a little differently. Like I currently feel like I should be taking what they're saying at the end a bit less literally and more that the author's very point is "to heck with all your cultural baggage around and perceptions about this, who has time for that anyway", rather than them actually being confused about anything (at least past the earliest stages).

(Aside: Even though I say I don't remember this, I feel like I must have missed in my first read-through how the girl that was heckling them across the street in their early school days became their bestie. That was very cute.)