Rekishi ni Nokoru Akujo ni Naruzo: Akuyaku Reijou ni Naru hodo Ouji no Dekiai wa Kasoku Suru you desu! - Vol. 5 Ch. 24.2

[MangaDex]

 

[Doedoel]

Wew, didn't expect that... Nonetheless, thanks for the TL

 

[YamiryuuZero]

It's like Liz herself isn't aware that she's brainwashing people into being her devoted followers.

 

[AnotherDuck]

Liz greets Jane with a pleasant tone. Stooge immediately gets aggressive. Read the room, idiot.

A new perspective is always a good idea. Nice to see that character grow up, regardless of where they were before.

 

[feha]

It's like Liz herself isn't aware that she's brainwashing people into being her devoted followers.

It is often the case with the good heroines antagonists in otome game novels, that they are actually never truly mean-spirited antagonists. Even when they too are reincarnators, they might simply be victims of corrective forces or, at worst, not realize that the people around them are truly people because they get brainwashed just by triggering flags in a way that just doesn't work if they were people.
Stuff like someone around them (parent? demon? spirit? other?) charming everyone to love them, or the god's blessing having that effect, or a vampirical magical eye, and so on.

 

[Haezer]

"Get behind me, Liz!", yelled Liz's Savior #420 to the person who bears absolutely no ill will against Liz.

 

[Dantrig]

Wow some amazin maturity and character dvelopment. Never thought I would see the day.

 

[Justking14]

Oh our precious Saint is starting to crack

It's like Liz herself isn't aware that she's brainwashing people into being her devoted followers.

I could go either way here. If she does know, she might just believe that being brainwashed is for the best and once everyone Is controlled, she’ll finally have that ideal fantasy that she’s striving for. But she might also not know. She fully could’ve grown up never seeing a single negative emotion (thanks to her charm) and that led her to be utterly oblivious to what was really happening around her. Her being happy led to others being happy. It was simple and if it’s been happening her entire life, she’d have no reason to question it

It is often the case with the good heroines antagonists in otome game novels, that they are actually never truly mean-spirited antagonists. Even when they too are reincarnators, they might simply be victims of corrective forces or, at worst, not realize that the people around them are truly people

that can certainly be a fun angle to explore For both protagonists and antagonists. that moment they see a new side to their favorite game character and realize that they’re more than npcs. Or just go full fangirl and try to live out the game exactly as it’s written, never noticing how badly they’re f’ing up the story

 

[AquaNon]

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[feha]

that can certainly be a fun angle to explore For both protagonists and antagonists. that moment they see a new side to their favorite game character and realize that they’re more than npcs. Or just go full fangirl and try to live out the game exactly as it’s written, never noticing how badly they’re f’ing up the story

Fairly sure we have seen both of those things in some other otome-game novels? Though maybe not as the mc, unless you in the latter case also included when mobs/others transmigrate (so not only heroines) and fangirl and try to support the story to the True End, but mucks stuff up? Because that is pretty much all of them

 

[AbsurdAsparagus]

i hope in the future they show jane having her freckles out. it would complete the story arc of a person learning to love themselves without unhealthy dependency on others.

tho at the same time. the thing that makes her hater her freckles is an entire scociety, so it is unrealistic if they try to push the idea of of her overcoming it alone. the reality of the situation is that it takes a group to fight a group in these situations.

hopefully they show her having a healthy group of supportive friends as opposed to an obsessive dependency on one person.

 

[omnistraight]

I love this from Jane. both on the front of making yourself into someone you can like (even if its while you're working through something) and as a moment for someone on Liz's side to Liz. Thanks for the translation!!

 

[newtakn156]

It's like Liz herself isn't aware that she's brainwashing people into being her devoted followers.

Hasn't that been obvious?

 

[endo54]

Nagi from hayate no gotoku, how nostalgic

 

[Seetee]

Thank you for the translation!

Seeing Nagi on the outro card was... unexpected. Took me a second to realise. Love Hayate no Gotoku!

Really love this manga as well.

 

[Salfaro]

Damn, that's kind of wild. It's very rare for a shoujo manga character development to be "actually you're not fine just the way you are, wear some makeup", as well as having the person saying that the one who's supposed to be "wrong" (the saintess's words that are commonly called empty/lacking thought).

I will say though that I like freckles and as much as I like character development, I hate to see em go.

 

[RobinMedea]

Damn, that's kind of wild. It's very rare for a shoujo manga character development to be "actually you're not fine just the way you are, wear some makeup", as well as having the person saying that the one who's supposed to be "wrong" (the saintess's words that are commonly called empty/lacking thought).

I will say though that I like freckles and as much as I like character development, I hate to see em go.

It's definitely a choice.

A good faith reading would be: Society is pretty fucked, woman are expected to cater to men, even by other women, even if they aren't attracted to men. Jane let her resistance of said system turn into a complex, once she found someone that validated her in a way she always wished to be validated in, she became obsessed.

Now that she realized that, while not her mother, she had turned into someone just as bad. She now has to reconcile who she actually is with someone she can actually proud of being.

Her wearing makeup to try start loving herself more, is her first step to loving herself without the makeup and embracing her femininity.


A worst faith reading would be:
-wear make up women, you guys know that you are ugly without it
-Jane cured of being a lesbian now
-Freckles are ugly and you should be ashamed of them
-etc.

While I don't think it's as bad as the worst faith reading and I like to belive the author tried to go for the former, but this does feel like, whenever someone brings up how toxic our culture around make up is and the health problems it brings both mentally and physically and without fail someone just has to chime in "Well some women feel empowered by make up🤪🤓"

 

[Enalis]

Thank you for the chapter

 

[AnotherDuck]

but this does feel like, whenever someone brings up how toxic our culture around make up is and the health problems it brings both mentally and physically and without fail someone just has to chime in "Well some women feel empowered by make up🤪🤓"

I mean, if no one does that people start saying that make up is evil and no one should ever use it, because then they're offending all other women. We already have too much of that crap. Women who want to wear pretty, feminine clothes already get vilified by other women for being "anti-progressive" or some other BS.

Even a good message like, "You're good as you are," has often been twisted to, "I don't need to do shit for anyone, I can say whatever I want no matter how rude, and people should just accept me for who I am because I'm good," when people take the words to their extreme without thinking about what it actually means.

That said, the example in this manga feels more like a personal choice than some commentary on society as a whole.

 

[Khazar123]

Time to shed a tear for the freckles…

But this was a nice conversation, pretty good writing.

And of course Liz is gonna ignore the comment of Jane saying she felt like waking up.

Spoiler: Liz

I wonder how many chapters we are away from the big realization